Prosperity Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 Quote Sheet From Sunday's Game Steve Spurrier | Laveranues Coles | Trung Canidate | Patrick Ramsey Compiled by Gene Wang washingtonpost.com Correspondent Web Posted: Sunday, Oct. 5, 2003; 9:16 p.m. EDT Coach Steve Spurrier Opening statement It was frustrating. Dropped passes. We basically gave them two touchdowns. So the Eagles are good enough that you can't spot them a couple touchdowns. We did that. I don't know what to say. I'm frustrated with a lot of these guys, and they're probably frustrated with me. I don't know what to say. We'll try to coach better. We'll start with me and all the assistant coaches. Can't keep the guys from playing within the rules. Q: Did you sense Donovan McNabb had something to prove after what Rush Limbaugh said about him last week? A: I don't think the Eagles paid a lot of attention to what that guy said to tell you the truth. I told Donovan after the game I was sorry he had to go through all that stuff this week but in the long run maybe something good will come out of it. He said, "Yeah, let's hope something good comes out of it." They're just out there playing ball, and we're out there trying to play ball. We just played with a lot more errors than they did. Q: How pivotal was the personal foul against Regan Upshaw in the fourth quarter? A: We talked about that after the Giants game. ... He goes in there and shoves a guy a little bit after the play. That's very frustrating. When players do that, to me it's very selfish. When players commit fouls after the ball is dead. I don't what to do about it. I wish our guys overall would be a lot accountable for their actions. We're going to try to encourage them to do that. Q: Was Patrick Ramsey hurt in the game? A: He landed on his shoulder in the first quarter and shook it off a little bit. He didn't get hit again fortunately. Q: Do you consider this game progress considering how the Eagles handled you guys last season? A: Nah, it's not progress, just like losing to the Giants all the time. I don't know. I don't have the answers fellas. We find a way to lose. Or they find a win you could say. I think we can play with them, but playing with them and winning is two different things. Q: What's causing all the problems with all the audibles? A: I don't have the answer for that. You need to ask the lineman and the line coach and see what he says. We talk about it during the week that we're going to audible, and we try to tell them at times we're going to need to change the play. I don't have the answer for that. Q: Was the two-point play what you wanted? A: Exactly. We were hoping they'd blitz, and LC went on a little short corner route there, and I don't know if Patrick didn't get the grip right away. He sort of held it a little long. He had an excellent game, hung in there and played tough. Again he's just a second-year player. We didn't help him out a lot with protection and dropped balls. Q: What happened on the last touchdown to Darnerien McCants? A: I think they got their coverage a little screwed up. They didn't have anyone deep, and once he got past the linebacker, there was nobody back there. They mess up occasionally. Fortunately we had plenty of time for Dar to get past those linebackers. It took probably about four seconds for all that to happen. Laveranues Coles Q: Can you talk about playing against the Eagles defense? A: The Eagles played a great game, and they came out with a lot of coverages. Not only did they play the run well, but their coverage was great, and we have to give credit to their defense. We got off to a slow start again, and we shot ourselves in the foot tonight, and Coach Spurrier said it right that we are not going to be able to drop balls and win. This is setting us back. Q: What can you as a team do to correct the mistakes? A: We all said at the end of the game that we all need to take a look in the mirror and look into ourselves. We are going to have to come out and practice hard and play better. Q: What did you think of the Eagles' secondary? A: The secondary did not do anything special tonight because they just played. This is the NFL, and they are not a minor league team because anyone can step on the field and make plays. Trung Canidate Q: Can you talk about the Eagles' defense? A: The Eagles' run defense is the No. 1 run defense in the league, but we are all grown men, and we all put our clothes on the same way. Ultimately, we lost tonight, and we did not do enough to win. I do not like to lose, and we are going to have to look at the film and see what we did wrong. Q: Do you feel like you shot yourselves in the foot? A: We have to give the Eagles credit tonight because they won, but this offense ultimately can do a lot more. We can definitely do a lot more than what we are doing right now. The defense and the special teams and everyone could do a little more. That is the bottom line. Patrick Ramsey Q: Did the sack in the first quarter impact your throwing? A: I landed on my shoulder, and I injured it before, but I was able to throw. I'm not going to be scared of getting hit. Q: What happened on the screen that the Eagles intercepted and returned for a touchdown? A: My hand got it. I tried to throw the ball, and my hand got hit, and it just popped straight up. Q: Can you talk about the two-point conversion try? A: Laveranues Coles was wide open, and I overthrew the ball. It's as simple as that. He got open, and he did a good job, and I hurried up and threw the pass. Q: How frustrating was it to come within two points of sending the game into overtime? A: Our special teams and our defense kept us in the game. They played very well. I think we made so many mistakes that it could have gotten ugly. But they kept us in the game even though we made all those mistakes. © Copyright 2003 washingtonpost.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 I think that last quote by Ramsey about 'this could have been ugly' reinforces what I was trying to say about not looking at the final score and merely saying 'well the team only lost by 2 so it was a morale victory'......... IT WASN'T. the outcome was a disappointment not only because the Eagles were without several starters but also because the Redskins had a chance with a win to put Philly in a very poor position in the East at 1-3, with the Skins at 4-1. Instead the Redskins let the Eagles back into the race and did so with an effort the HC, Coles and Canidate admit was not one of their best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiggoDrill Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 Looks like Regan Upshaw won't be around long in DC. And Helton should be sweating too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor The Invincible Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 Well. Nothing we don't already know. It's a real shame that our head coach doesn't really know what to do about all the penalties. Then again, I don't know either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skin Deep Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 I LOVE the fact that Spurrier called out the friggin fat-ass lineman and the line coach! That sh*t better effin change or heads are gonna roll! They were absolutely pathetic and embarrassing and they should be as ashamed as possibe. Absolutely disgraceful! They shouldn't get docked a games' pay, they should willingly give it up if they had any pride whatsoever. Ok, I feel better now. Well, not really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 Ya know, at first I thought it was ok that Spurrier was taking credit for coaching poorly, but the "aww shucks" routine is getting old one me.....FAST. Look if you are going to go out out after every single game and say yer coaching is crappy, then why should the team believe in you? Spurrier needs to get angry, take a stand, and DO SOMETHING about these O-line penalties and errors. If it takes fining them, then do it already. Stop backing down and taking blame. Coach, you call the plays, it is up to the players to execute, if they can't, then by all means, PUNISH THEM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancalagon the Black Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 Q: Do you consider this game progress considering how the Eagles handled you guys last season?A: Nah, it's not progress, just like losing to the Giants all the time. I don't know. I don't have the answers fellas. We find a way to lose. Or they find a win you could say. I think we can play with them, but playing with them and winning is two different things. Q: What's causing all the problems with all the audibles? A: I don't have the answer for that. You need to ask the lineman and the line coach and see what he says. We talk about it during the week that we're going to audible, and we try to tell them at times we're going to need to change the play. I don't have the answer for that. Geez, he sounds almost as depressed as some folks on this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 what is scary is that sometimes Spurrier sounds like a guy who is completely out of control and doesn't know what is up and what is down. hopefully that is just the end of game frustration and irritation talking, much as Parcells' stunt of walking out of training camp. what has not yet been shown to me is what techniques Spurrier and Co. are using to get to this team and work to correct the mistakes. so far I have seen him call out Edwards use of Ade Jimoh late in ballgames and Helton and the line for all the penalties. but what is HE specifically doing to ensure the performances improve? you know what Parcells is doing. he is challenging guys to their faces with the doors shut. he is telling guys with a hangnail to get out there and play ball. and he is telling other guys that make dumb penalties that their lockers might be empty if the mistakes don't stop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleSteve Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 Originally posted by bulldog and he is telling other guys that make dumb penalties that their lockers might be empty if the mistakes don't stop Tough to do to an all-pro OT. Samuels knows that he'll outlast Spurrier or go to another team and get paid just as well if not better. The coach has very little leverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljer Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 Listen..if yo want SOS to be Parcells, forget it, it doesn't seem to be his way. We had a Parcells type guy in Schot, and nobody wanted him around anymore. If we want Parcells, we better lure him away from the Cowboys. I love the Parcells & Schottenheimer coaching style, but it's not Spurriers style. If he keeps losing games because of stupid penalties, it's his ass on the line, and we'll be looking for another coach yet again. It's gonna get better...the O-line always takes time to gel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 Samuels has pride. Just like Larry Allen. You get to Samuels not by cutting on him in public but by taking him aside and telling him that without him improving the TEAM won't improve. You use his own pride as leverage to make him work that extra 5%. one thing to remember, though is that Samuels is not the only one making mistakes. you take one tack on a guy like Samuels that does seem to have a good work ethic, etc............. but a more aggressive stance with guys like Upshaw who talk openly to the press about his rep for getting late hit calls and unsportsmanlike penalties. Upshaw is not untouchable and is not a must have player. If Regan doesn't want to play with discipline and under control than he needs to be shown the door. The team won 2 of the first 3 games without him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignatius J. Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 I think calling out the oline to much is a bit counterproductive. The false starts were basically a non-issue. If ramsey throws better we win easily and the false starts are forgotten. To me Spurrier's reluctance to blame ramsey for ANY of his team's failures reeks of favoritism that could undermine his authority down the stretch. -DB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljer Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 It's hard to be accurate when there are two guys in your face, and you're getting knocked on your ass on EVERY play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awesome Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 Originally posted by NoCalMike Ya know, at first I thought it was ok that Spurrier was taking credit for coaching poorly, but the "aww shucks" routine is getting old one me.....FAST. Look if you are going to go out out after every single game and say yer coaching is crappy, then why should the team believe in you? Spurrier needs to get angry, take a stand, and DO SOMETHING about these O-line penalties and errors. If it takes fining them, then do it already. Stop backing down and taking blame. Coach, you call the plays, it is up to the players to execute, if they can't, then by all means, PUNISH THEM. Yep, you got that right. But seriously, HOW MANY TIMES are we going to hear Spurrier say he's got to coach better? Talk about a broken f*cking record! This is worse then the What we do works soundbite that Norv always gave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awesome Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 Quit playing dumb Spurrier, it's patronizing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignatius J. Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 Ijer, Ramsey was barely touched after the first quarter. -DB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty dread Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 Spurrier doesn't have an answer for the false starts from the audibles?? How about doing away with the audibles or drastically limiting them?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmootDawg21 Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 As someone stated in another post, Spurrier's system has always relied on audibles - and in stadiums packed with over 100,000 fans, and you did not see Florida's linemen false starting over and over again. I'll admit that it cannot be easy for 300+ pound men to stay in that position with Ramsey walking up and down the line relaying the audible while the defense is constantly moving people up to and away from the LOS. It has to be a mental thing at this point. Especially with CS and JJ. Dockery - the guy is a rookie playing against a darn good front 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljer Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 I'll admit that it cannot be easy for 300+ pound men to stay in that position with Ramsey walking up and down the line relaying the audible while the defense is constantly moving people up to and away from the LOS. It has to be a mental thing at this point. Agreed.. Colts don't seem to have a problem with it...Manning is doing it all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty dread Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 Whatever the problem is with the audibles, they obviously aren't working and are only working against them right now. Who cares if they work for other teams, if they are a problem for the Skins (which they are) something needs to be done about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SkinsHokie Fan Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 Agree with Smoot dawg. Wuerfall went into Tennessee and audibilized all the time. Its a matter of focus and being mentally alert. Really its part of the culture of a team and a pride thing. Even last year I dont recall such a disgusting display of lack of concentration. I know there is a lot to think about in those 15 seconds down in a 3 point stance but you gotta remember the count. Especially now. Its just the players saying "hey we are not gonna screw this up anymore" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cskin Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 Don't go getting soft on the O-lineman, this aint Pop Warner football. Ramsey can walk up and down the line of scrimmage and call audibles to everyone but the waterboy.... it's the lineman's job to go when Ramsey says "HUT!!!!!". It seems to me they're sitting there with their ears wide open and the first time Ramsey barks...... audible or not.... they're moving. That's lack of discipline..... mental errors.... and lack of focus and concentration. Either the go when he says hut or they don't. Each one of the offenders should be brought into the Ole' Ball Coache's office and asked.... "What part of going on "HUT" don't you understand"? Do you see Manning's OL jumping offsides 5-7 times a game, eventhough he walks up and down the line of scrimmage and girates around with his hands? Hell..He's audibling to non-existent plays just to make the defense think he's audibling. END OF DISCUSSION!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 so, I guess this means we now have to go out and acquire Mo Collins and Kenyatta Walker to play OL under Spurrier? :laugh: I am so sick and tired of hearing what the requirements are for this scheme. Just go out and play the damn game Gibbs threw short and intermediate routes out of a two tight end formation with Theismann. With Rypien he ran a 3 wide receiver set most of the time and featured play action deep passing to complement the run game we had with Riggs and Byner. YOU ADAPT! YOU OVERCOME! YOU IMPROVISE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montilar Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 I don't have the answers fellas. We find a way to lose. Or they find a win you could say. I think we can play with them, but playing with them and winning is two different things. I don't know what to say. I'm frustrated with a lot of these guys, and they're probably frustrated with me. I don't know what to say. You're the coach. You better d@mn sight figure out what to say. I don't have the answer for that. Again, you're the head coach....... :shoothead These quotes could of come from Norv.... except of course he'd put it "what I do works", "we competed out there", and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OaktonSkins/BushFan Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 As much as I agree with ASF concerning Helton, I really just believe that Jansen and Samuels are undisciplined players. Jansen got his fat contract and hasn't been the same. In addition to drafting DL next year, let's go after some offensive tackles in the draft. If there aren't any serious ramifications with the cap, maybe we cut our losses w/ one of these guys. The coaches must stop treating these guys with kid gloves - start benching them, institute fines (however symbolic). Just let the players know that there will be consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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