killerbee99 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 http://www.armytimes.com/news/2012/09/military-veterans-job-corps-act-senate-091912w/?fb_comment_id=fbc_444503088935699_4872629_444531058932902#fc9edd06081fba The Veterans Job Corps Act died in the Senate Wednesday on a procedural vote when 40 senators balked at the $1 billion price tag for a measure that would have provided employment for veterans in conservation work, in Veterans Affairs Department cemeteries, and helped in police and fire departments.Supporters needed 60 votes and got only 58 to overcome an objection by Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., that the $1 billion in costs, although paid for through budgetary gimmicks, would have pushed VA over the spending limits set by last year’s Budget Control Act. The vote brought an early end to a measure that was already likely to fail. While the bill was a top priority of President Obama and many veterans’ organizations, the House of Representatives had no plans to take it up for consideration this year. As a current soldier, this makes my blood boil, just found out about this bill being killed by 4 Republicans who had parts in writing the bill, decide to note vote for it because it would add $1 billion to the Dept of VA Budget. Quick note: We spend about $1 billion every week in Afghanistan. I really am beginning to hate Republicans overall as a party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madison Redskin Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 The GOP has been fighting to keep VA spending down (but other DoD spending up) for years. This isn't much different than the Republicans trying to block bills intended to help 911 responders. If you wrap yourself in the flag and wear one on your lapel, you're excused from supporting those who shed blood to defend it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 "Support the Troops" is starting to feel like "Think about the children" when I hear it come out of politicians' mouths. They get in trouble when they don't say it, but they are constantly not backing up their words with actions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 The cost of our veterans health should be the number one priority when considering going to war. Our Vets shouldn't need private groups or charity to get health care. It's bull**** and pathetic. We have veterans starving and freezing in our streets. A lot of them because of mental disabilities they suffered directly from the war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Vets are the neglected orphans of our war machine. Shame on these politicians for sending our sons to war only to abandon them at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 I hate to say it, but by and large, elected Republicans do not support the troops. They support the military industry and to a lesser extent the Pentagon, but they have shown time and again that they don't support the troops themselves. I spent five years volunteering with a group that worked with military hospitals and got to see too much first hand during the hotter parts of the war about what our soldiers, marines, sailors, and reserve went without. It was depressing. This is just another example. More, it really demonstrates again how political games matter more to Republicans than helping people including Vets. They do not want Obama getting any credit for something like this. They'd rather kill it than do good regardless of their stated reasons for fighting the bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Vets are the neglected orphans of our war machine. Shame on these politicians for sending our sons to war only to abandon them at home. This. Thanks for all you do, killerbee. Hail! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 I'd prefer a different solution http://www.usatoday.com/news/military/story/2012-04-27/texas-veterans-unemployment/54889194/1 which must mean I hate the troops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 I'd prefer a different solutionhttp://www.usatoday.com/news/military/story/2012-04-27/texas-veterans-unemployment/54889194/1 which must mean I hate the troops And yet it not on the merit of the program that it was killed by the GOP...it was the cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 http://www.armytimes.com/news/2012/09/military-veterans-job-corps-act-senate-091912w/?fb_comment_id=fbc_444503088935699_4872629_444531058932902#fc9edd06081fbaQuick note: We spend about $1 billion every week in Afghanistan. I really am beginning to hate Republicans overall as a party. Maybe it would be best to save that money and spend some of it on the vets rather than a wasted decade long effort of futility and nation building (the policy shared by our President and President Bush and Candidate Romney) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 We are at War now and have more military actions going on then any time in history, with a Dem in charge. We are wasting epic tons of money doing it. Blame the Reps and the Dems and ourselves for voting for people who continue to support endless wars and nation building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 And yet it not on the merit of the program that it was killed by the GOP...it was the cost. Let me guess, it became a priority for the Dems when elections approached? It is nice to see them finally focused on jobs though...govt jobs of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killerbee99 Posted September 20, 2012 Author Share Posted September 20, 2012 This. Thanks for all you do, killerbee. Hail! Meh, not to bad for me 12 hr days, 6 day work week, I'll live at least I am in Kuwait. I just feel sorry for our guys in Afghanistan, well I am probably on my way to Fort Bragg after I leave Kuwait in Dec. Airborne school and probably on my way there in 2014. Can't wait (being sarcastic on this part). Just pass the job bill as long as it's covered through good funding. Heck , I know you can trim foreign aid to numerous countries that hate us to pay for it, assisting in creating new job opportunities for the approximately over 100,000 veterans who will be looking for jobs when this war ends and we trim down our ranks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Let me guess, it became a priority for the Dems when elections approached?It is nice to see them finally focused on jobs though...govt jobs of course Fail....they were ALREADY government workers! You fail even when you try to move the goal posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Fail....they were ALREADY government workers!You fail even when you try to move the goal posts. and are entitled to continue as such in a different position? as Killerbee mentioned there are cuts in troop levels coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forehead Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Is "move the goal posts" going to be the new political buzz phrase? I've already seen that pop up a few times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 and are entitled to continue as such in a different position? You had no problem paying them while they wore the uniform. as Killerbee mentioned there are cuts in troop levels coming. Which the GOP will complain about and then blame Obama saying he is weak on defense.....mark my words. ---------- Post added September-20th-2012 at 09:23 AM ---------- Is "move the goal posts" going to be the new political buzz phrase? I've already seen that pop up a few times. Only so much as when people do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebluefood Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Maybe it would be best to save that money and spend some of it on the vets rather than a wasted decade long effort of futility and nation building (the policy shared by our President and President Bush and Candidate Romney) Couldn't agree more. In a perfect world, our "defense" budget would be slashed and the VA's budget would be fat and healthy. Sadly that is not the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Training people for employment as productive citizens after they have volunteered to serve this country is not a selfless thing to do. Once they're employed, they add to the economy, to the tax base, to everything that helps make us stronger. They will pump much more than it costs to train them back into the country. What a horrible idea. ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Those things that American's did during WWII like housing traveling solders and then the G.I. Bill are clear examples of socialism. The Nazi's won by creating the middle class in the America. /sarcasm Bottom line, Trolls With Attitudes would defend their party regardless of how far off the cliff they're willing to go. Its like a cult with a suicide pact. Matching tennis shoes and robes. Lets go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiebear Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Seems an odd story: When i got out it was part of the ETS package to sign up with different groups to get you a job on the outside. We would have had to "stop" doing that, to now have to 'start" doing that again? I got a job with a non-profit group that ran a helpdesk for the AirForce desktops in the Pentagon where i walked in the day after my transition leave ended Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 You had no problem paying them while they wore the uniform.. I'm pretty supportive of paying people that work.....you might even say obligated I'm also supportive of job training and hiring vets.......funny how some care mainly at election time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 I'm pretty supportive of paying people that work.....you might even say obligatedI'm also supportive of job training and hiring vets.......funny how some care mainly at election time. If you did believe anything you wrote, it wouldn't make a damn bit of difference when it got done, it would just be important that it DID get done. Typical of your party. Play games, pretend to carry some sort of superior attitude, but in truth, act detrimental to the good of the people of this country. Typical hypocrite, screaming about hypocrisy. ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiebear Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 https://www.armypays.com/GENERAL_INFO.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Bang....it is being done.....just not this specific govt program how about we discuss the merits of it specifically instead of emotional appeals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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