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that they're the Cleveland Browns, and that since they've been back in the NFL, they've been absolute ****,

They've been absolute **** longer than that. Outside of a little run with Schottenheimer in the 80's, the Browns haven't done **** in 60 years. They're the Cubs of the NFL.

And Alex Smith needs to man up and go back to San Fran. I doubt that he'll find work anywhere else, given his history (that won't go away, after one good year)

I wonder if the Niners are big on Kaepernick. That could explain this game they're playing with Smith.

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Maybe not. That division will certainly be better but their defense is still very good and if they can find a serviceable QB I think they're going to contend again.

You can be a VERY good defense and not get turnovers - look at the Steelers last year. And if they don't get so much "offense" from their D, they're screwed.

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Surprised no one has posted about Mike Wallace being ****ing delusional. He apparently wants a bigger contract than Larry Fitz. $120 mil or something. I hope people are laughing at him to his face.

That's ridiculous. Calvin Johnson didn't get a bigger contract than Fitzgerald. Mike Wallace will get somewhere in between DeSean Jackson and Megatron, closer to Jackson.

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Because his 36 year old former center didn't follow him to Denver? Why is that?

Its one of many things, though I didn't realize Saturday was that old. I get the whole Elway thing and Harbaugh is a jackass but the Niners are a much better team. Denver is like San Fran light to me: both have really good defenses and young targets on offense but SF seems to be a better team.

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You can be a VERY good defense and not get turnovers - look at the Steelers last year. And if they don't get so much "offense" from their D, they're screwed.

True, but they have some weapons on offense and you can win with a good defense and a good running game. They've had that and still have a fantastic vertical threat in Vernon Davis. He also makes the WRs on the team much better by drawing attention/double coverage.

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You can be a VERY good defense and not get turnovers - look at the Steelers last year. And if they don't get so much "offense" from their D, they're screwed.

True, but they have some weapons on offense and you can win with a good defense and a good running game. They've had that and still have a fantastic vertical threat in Vernon Davis. He also makes the WRs on the team much better by drawing attention/double coverage.

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Its one of many things, though I didn't realize Saturday was that old. I get the whole Elway thing and Harbaugh is a jackass but the Niners are a much better team. Denver is like San Fran light to me: both have really good defenses and young targets on offense but SF seems to be a better team.

I think you said it here ... Harbaugh is a jackass. He also seems like the kind of coach that enjoys a fair amount of control over his offense which would not really align with Manning's apparent need for independence.

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Out of curiosity, has Michael Bush signed with a team yet? I don't seem to see it anywhere that he has ...

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I think you said it here ... Harbaugh is a jackass. He also seems like the kind of coach that enjoys a fair amount of control over his offense which would not really align with Manning's apparent need for independence..

And that would lead me to question Harbaugh.

If he landed arguably the greatest QB of all time, who hardly needs an OC, one would think he'd back off and let Peyton work. I mean #18 with that defense, running game and Vernon Davis/Michael Crabtree/Braylon Edwards/Ted Ginn.....wow....No matter what you think of Crabtree/Edwards/Ginn, Manning would make them instantly better.

That team would probably be in the conversation as a favorite in the AFC, whereas I think Denver is still a year or two away from being true competitors.

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And that would lead me to question Harbaugh.

If he landed arguably the greatest QB of all time, who hardly needs an OC, one would think he'd back off and let Peyton work. I mean #18 with that defense, running game and Vernon Davis/Michael Crabtree/Braylon Edwards/Ted Ginn.....wow....No matter what you think of Crabtree/Edwards/Ginn, Manning would make them instantly better.

That team would probably be in the conversation as a favorite in the AFC, whereas I think Denver is still a year or two away from being true competitors.

Honestly. 49ers should have been in the SB last year with Alex Smith running the show. With #18 healthy (if he really is healthy), they'd be in the SB, no questions asked

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And that would lead me to question Harbaugh.

If he landed arguably the greatest QB of all time, who hardly needs an OC, one would think he'd back off and let Peyton work. I mean #18 with that defense, running game and Vernon Davis/Michael Crabtree/Braylon Edwards/Ted Ginn.....wow....No matter what you think of Crabtree/Edwards/Ginn, Manning would make them instantly better.

That team would probably be in the conversation as a favorite in the AFC, whereas I think Denver is still a year or two away from being true competitors.

Don't forget Randy Moss.

And San Fran is in the NFC. I'm assuming that's just a typo.

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