Hitman21ST Posted March 13, 2012 Author Share Posted March 13, 2012 15 minutes and counting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I'll have to go check out some cut-ups you guys are getting me all excited n ****. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/13/tuesday-one-liners/ Free agent LG Ben Grubbs is expected to leave Baltimore after the Bears, Cowboys, Bucs, or Browns blow away the five-year, $32 million offer RG Marshal Yanda received from the Ravens last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
36HAMMER Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Ben Grubbs, more athletic than Nicks quicker , faster and would be great as a zone blocker and will probably cost less than nicks. don't know how much cap space we actually have but we need a big time guard, a cb and some lbs and a good center with more strength and girth would be great to. before we stop. too bad we couldnt get B. Marshall but we have already traded alot of pciks. oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 I think OL gets addressed in the draft. Shanny doesn't really spend big bucks on FA OL, don't need to with the ZBS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogofWar1 Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Man, I would love Winston right about now. He'd probably be a done deal too if not for cap bs. I still hold out hope he comes here because he hasn't been signed yet. For guard, if we sign anyone, I anticipate it'll be a small name, underrated guy. Grubbs and Nicks commanded too much salary before the sanction, now it's just simply impossible. Myers would be nice, and perhaps if we didn't have the sanction we could have pursued him, but between his age and money I just don't see him happening now. If any OGs end up here, they'll be unheralded FAs who don't eat much cap. The problem with the draft is that we also need safeties badly. We have guys on the line, even if they aren't really that good. Compare that to our safety position, where our 1 and 2 are walking and were cut respectively. We need guys there in the worst way, and so I'm getting the vibe that the 3rd is S, and OT/OG won't be addressed until at least the 4th. I really hope Shanahan and Allen find some diamonds in the rough there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted March 14, 2012 Author Share Posted March 14, 2012 There's a report coming out that Winston failed his physical after breaking his ankle? Someone follow up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B&GPride44 Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Agreed...Shanny fully believes he can sculpt young, raw talent for his zone blocking scheme, off the street. And he has shown in the past, in Denver that he pretty much can. With that said, I'd love to see us get one of those three (Winston, Nicks, Grubbs) but that Brooks kid looks remarkable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockfan7224 Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 There's a report coming out that Winston failed his physical after breaking his ankle? Someone follow up... Just the reason they used on the waiver wire to release him. I've seen a bunch saying he's good to go withing 2 weeks. ---------- Post added March-14th-2012 at 09:06 AM ---------- I think OL gets addressed in the draft. Shanny doesn't really spend big bucks on FA OL, don't need to with the ZBS. I'm starting to think that as well. I mean Willie Smith and Mo Hurt looked halfway decent last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-bomb Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 OT-Anthony Collins-26 2011 HIGHLIGHTS: Played in seven games (Games 1, 7 and 12-16), with starts Dec. 11 vs. Houston and Dec. 18 at St. Louis in place of injured RT Andre Smith ... Active-DNP in six games and inactive in three games ... Also inactive for Wild Card playoff ... Contributed to pass protection that ranked tied for fourth in NFL in fewest sacks allowed (25) … On Sept. 11 at Cleveland, saw action mostly on special teams and occasionally as an extra blocker in short-yardage situations … On Dec. 4 at Pittsburgh, played as replacement after Smith left game in second quarter with ankle injury, and also saw brief action on defense as an extra lineman in short-yardage situations … Played in all four preseason games. PREVIOUS SEASONS: 2010 - Missed last three preseason games due to foot injury suffered Aug. 15 vs. Denver … Active-DNP for Games 1-2, played in Game 3, inactive for Games 4-8 and played in Games 9-16 ... In midseason, began sharing RT duties with Dennis Roland … Secured No. 1 spot for Games 15-16 … Played key role in Bengals allowing no sacks in season’s final three games … Supported 371-net yard performance with no sacks allowed in win Dec. 26 vs. San Diego. 2009 - Aided 141-yard rushing game by Cedric Benson on Sept. 20 at Green Bay … Helped lead fourth-quarter drives of 85 and 71 yards during comeback win Sept. 27 vs. Pittsburgh … Helped support a 5.1-yard team rushing average in win Oct. 4 at Cleveland … In win Oct. 11 at Baltimore, helped limit Ravens defense to one sack while helping Benson (27-for-120) become first player in 40 games to rush for 100 yards against Baltimore … In win Nov. 8 vs. Baltimore, aided performance up front that allowed only one sack, and helped Benson rush for 117 yards … Aided a run-blocking effort that netted 210 yards rushing Nov. 29 vs. Cleveland, and helped Bengals control time of possession for 38:11 … On Dec. 6 vs. Detroit, supported third straight game of more than 38 minutes of possession time (38:48). 2008 - His six starts at LT included a competitive effort against Pro Bowl DE Dwight Freeney on Dec. 7 at Indianapolis ... In win Dec. 14 vs. Washington, helped line lead the way for 310 net yards offense, second-highest of year behind 347 in OT at N.Y. Giants ... On Dec. 21 at Cleveland, line paved the way for 191 rushing yards in victory ... Helped clear path for season-best 204 rushing yards Dec. 28 vs. Kansas City ... Made NFL debut Sept. 14 vs. Tennessee, playing on special teams and as extra blocker in short-yardage offense ... Saw some action with base offense Nov. 2 vs. Jacksonville, spotting Levi Jones at LT, and also played in short-yardage formation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogofWar1 Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Just the reason they used on the waiver wire to release him. I've seen a bunch saying he's good to go withing 2 weeks.I'm starting to think that as well. I mean Willie Smith and Mo Hurt looked halfway decent last year Well, hopefully he avoids signing anywhere for 2 weeks so we can work out the cap crap and get money enough to sign him. I'll also bet OL gets draft picks, but latest insider tweets say we might be interested in Brandon Taylor too, so the 3rd rounder has competition from safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trez Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Why do they HATE offensive linemen? Kory Lichtensteiger? Give me a break. The dude was sub-par to average BEFORE he blew out THREE ligaments in his knee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.T.real,lights,out Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 I think ur 3rd round pick is going to be a G. Really hope Brown is ready to go. If not RGIII is gonna be in trouble if we dont bring another T in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always A Commander Never A Captain Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 There's a report coming out that Winston failed his physical after breaking his ankle? Someone follow up... He had surgery in February. He said had he known he was getting released, he would have had surgery in January and it would have been fully healed by now. Supposedly it was a fracture? ---------- Post added March-14th-2012 at 09:49 AM ---------- Why do they HATE offensive linemen? Kory Lichtensteiger? Give me a break. The dude was sub-par to average BEFORE he blew out THREE ligaments in his knee. Well I disagree with the first part of your post. But did he blow out all 3 ligaments or just 1? If it's 3, it's serious. ---------- Post added March-14th-2012 at 09:50 AM ---------- I'm starting to think that as well. I mean Willie Smith and Mo Hurt looked halfway decent last year Willie Smith looked a bit better than Hurt. Hurt is just too raw, and needs a full offseason of some serious strength and conditioning. Hurt was a little too inconsistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayneal7 Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Does anyone have a clue which O-linemen the Skins have brought in/offered so far? Grubbs is the only name I've heard... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrFan Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Does anyone have a clue which O-linemen the Skins have brought in/offered so far? Grubbs is the only name I've heard... Demetrius Bell 6'5" 307lbs OT 28 years-old, visited yesterday (Friday). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejaydana Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 I'm encouraging in that Shannan always hung hit hat on a solid Oline. He put together some really good Olinemen before he parted ways with Denver and while we don't have early picks this year, I'm hoping him to continue his solid drafting of line talent. You can't go anywhere as a team without it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayneal7 Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Demetrius Bell 6'5" 307lbs OT 28 years-old, visited yesterday (Friday). Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planter Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Skins seem to be skimping on O line. Take note NFC East QB Killas and pro bowl NTs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Win4us Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Not a fan at all of the later round flyer picks to fill an o-line. I'll wait until after this draft before i can judge ShanAllen on o-line picks though. BUT, if RT and or G isn't addressed with either the 3rd rounder, or at worst one of the 4ths then i see it as neglect. Like leaving your kids at Chucky Cheese kind of neglect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHOPSkins Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Two words - Eric Winston Winston Winston Winston Winston Winston Winston Winston Winston Winston Winston Winston Winston Winston Winston Winston Winston Winston for shizzle........ Yup Sign Winston ...... ....... I hope we can get Winston...... i agree with the sentiment.. It would be nice to get Winston..... Winston should be a no brainer for us..... ...... sign Winston! Yeah, the second I heard Winston was cut, he became #1 on my wish list. Winston,..... ....... I would love to get Winston .... I love Winston..... .....Winston would be a perfect fit....... ...... I would love Winston....... .....Eric Winston (T): 6'7", 302. 28 years old, played 4 seasons with Houston as the Right Tackle. Completing the right side of the Houston line, he's one of the best RTs in the game. Knows Kyle and the ZBS, and he should be one of our top targets IMO....... Eric Winston | T Previous Team: Houston Exp: 6 years Analysis: Winston is going to visit the Dolphins, Chiefs and Rams, a league source told NFL Network's Jason La Canfora. Winston was a surprise cut by the Texans on Monday. La Canfora reported Friday that the Redskins also are interested. http://www.nfl.com/freeagency HTTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpskins10 Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Not a fan at all of the later round flyer picks to fill an o-line. I'll wait until after this draft before i can judge ShanAllen on o-line picks though.BUT, if RT and or G isn't addressed with either the 3rd rounder, or at worst one of the 4ths then i see it as neglect. Like leaving your kids at Chucky Cheese kind of neglect. To be fair, the starting OL for the Broncos' SB team were a UDFA, a 10 rounder, a 7th rounder, a 3rd rounder, and a 7th rounder. After that, the long-time starting LT for the Broncos was Matt Lepsis, a converted TE UDFA. If he can build the same kind of offensive lines here that he did in Denver, it doesn't follow that we HAVE to draft the players early. That being said, I do think we invest one of our fourth rounders into an OL prospect. That third rounder is going toward a DB, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Win4us Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 That 98 Bronco o-line may have been underrated wrt their draft positions, though they still didn't give up ANYWHERE near the sacks and qb hits that our current team has this past season. Not to forget they sprung TD for over 2k yards rushing that season. This 2011-12 season we gave up the 3rd worst qb hits and only 25th in the league in rypg. Basically, the same effort coach put into the 97,98 seasons ain't cutting it nowadays. You get what you put in and IMHO besides Trent we have yet to put a real effort into the line with the results showing on the field. I'll reserve full judgement tho until THIS draft has transpired since he may suprise me with a 3rd round RT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyGator Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Skins lead the league in total QB hits over the last 3 years. Jags were #2. Their QB was so battered he took a year off. Then there's the Rams and their battered QB who was shut down early this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 To be fair, the starting OL for the Broncos' SB team were a UDFA, a 10 rounder, a 7th rounder, a 3rd rounder, and a 7th rounder.After that, the long-time starting LT for the Broncos was Matt Lepsis, a converted TE UDFA. If he can build the same kind of offensive lines here that he did in Denver, it doesn't follow that we HAVE to draft the players early. That being said, I do think we invest one of our fourth rounders into an OL prospect. That third rounder is going toward a DB, IMO. You're forgetting one detail--the types of players that Shanahan wanted for his revolutionary ZBS back then were not desired by nearly any other teams in the NFL. Now, in 2012, I'd wager that about half the teams in the league, at LEAST, utilize some form of the ZBS, or at least use concepts from it. The players that fell to the 7th/10th/undrafted area are now coveted by other ZBS teams. Just as with the 3-4 and the tweener pass-rushers that have blossomed on many teams. The earlier 3-4 teams could stock up on talent that fit their scheme back then, for practically nothing in the draft. Now, a huge portion of the league runs the 3-4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted March 17, 2012 Share Posted March 17, 2012 Eric Winston | T Previous Team: Houston Exp: 6 yearsAnalysis: Winston is going to visit the Dolphins, Chiefs and Rams, a league source told NFL Network's Jason La Canfora. Winston was a surprise cut by the Texans on Monday. La Canfora reported Friday that the Redskins also are interested. http://www.nfl.com/freeagency Thank you for putting this together IHOP. Love to have the guy. He would be the best signing of the entire FA period, IMO. I love the Garcon signing but Winston's would plug a very BIG hole. HTTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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