Champskins Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Winston is a top 5 RT, I'd be surprised if he wasnt a Redskin at 4:01 PM EST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted March 13, 2012 Author Share Posted March 13, 2012 Why was Winston cut? I remember hearing how great their line was so I was surprised to see him cut. Cap casualty I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukes and Skins Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Why was Winston cut? I remember hearing how great their line was so I was surprised to see him cut. Trying to clear cap to retain Mario Williams I bet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcdiscokid Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Yup Sign Winston and cut Jamal Brown. That would help some of the cap situation. No it actually increase the cap this year, we take a 1.5 hit if we cut him, but have a lot of savings next year. According to Warpath website, which does a tremendous job with the cap figures, the Sellers (+$1 mill.) and Otogwe ($3.5 mill) save over $4.5 mill. Others who would be possible include D. Hall at a savings of $6.2 mill. and Cooley (+$2 mill.). Those Cuts together would save almost $15 this year.Cutting Brown this year would actually cost $1.25 mill. and Moss would be a savings of just a few hundred thousand, though both would save the Skins plenty in 2013, something in the neighborhood of $10-$11 mill. Also, Trent Williams at over $12 mill in salary this year would be a natural for a contract restructure to spread the hit out over more years. I look for the Williams restructure, getting Davis a more cap friendly contract, a Hall new contract or outright release if he balks, and (unfortunately) a Cooley release. These moves could essentially save the Skins the $18 mill that is half of the NFLs penalty. I'd also expect both Brown and Moss to be released after next season when the savings would be dramatically improved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Kev Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 RT is a need, and Winston would be a perfect fit. We will probably bring in one or two UFA as well to compete with Smith as depth. I thought that Lich played well at LG, but as we won't know for sure if he's healed untill camp, a LG is needed. Briesel is worth a look, maybe use a late pick on a young one as well. I don't care if we take a cap hit for it or not, but we gotta cut Cook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins2323 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 That link says that Winston is going to command 8 million + when compared to other RTs. We still have to pay Brown next year, I really dont think we can afford him even though he is exactly what we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 If we got Winston and Grubbs, and Released brown and picked up Nate Potter in the draft..... that would be awesome Saw Grubbs was gonna command a $32 mil contract and really don't think he fits our scheme. Thank God for that because the $$ is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truant Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Winston and a good guard or center. I'm a little torn on the second part because I don't want to spend a lot of money on the interior of the line because I kinda like the players we have there... but maybe we should improve upon them. Monty can shift to guard if we get a good center. Or we can replace Lich at guard and use him as a reserve for a new guy that we bring in. Anyways, I think we could use two new offensive lineman and we'd be looking a lot stronger already on offense going into next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planter Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Great thread and info. Skins may have their.franchise QB and now must prioritize OL. In the NFL East the QB killas feast on underpowered, nimble OL.Hicks might be asked to.drop 5 lbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
authentic Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Cap casualty I think yup same reason why they're letting Meyers walk.. Their Oline situation is going to be interesting going into next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted March 13, 2012 Author Share Posted March 13, 2012 Winston also went up against Robert Mathis twice a year in Houston, so they guy knows something about stopping elite pass rushers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukes and Skins Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 yup same reason why they're letting Meyers walk.. Their Oline situation is going to be interesting going into next season. Meyers Brisiel and Winston are all FA's for them aka 3/5 of that OL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahons21 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Great thread, I agree with most that Winston has got to be the top priority. I hope we can do some sort of shuffle within the interior to improve that part of our o-line as well. Just spit-balling but maybe: Hurt - Kory - chester Kory - Monty - Hurt etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukes and Skins Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Great thread, I agree with most that Winston has got to be the top priority. I hope we can do some sort of shuffle within the interior to improve that part of our o-line as well.Just spit-balling but maybe: Hurt - Kory - chester Kory - Monty - Hurt etc Keep an eye on Brandon Brooks from Miami OH in the middle rounds. A guy who I think could come in and play G and be a very successful ZBS G despite his size Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champskins Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Keep an eye on Brandon Brooks from Miami OH in the middle rounds. A guy who I think could come in and play G and be a very successful ZBS G despite his size He's jumped up a ton after his pro day.... didn't get much attention before that. Scouts wondered why he didnt get a combine invite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukes and Skins Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 He's jumped up a ton after his pro day.... didn't get much attention before that. Scouts wondered why he didnt get a combine invite Agreed still looking like a 4th round pick to me, but love his potential Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champskins Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Agreed still looking like a 4th round pick to me, but love his potential visited with the Lions yesterday. Could see him getting snagged fairly quick, kids a beast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamecokskins703 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 have any of our insiders said that the FO has expressed any interest in Winston? He would be number 1 on my OL priority list this FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukes and Skins Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 have any of our insiders said that the FO has expressed any interest in Winston? He would be number 1 on my OL priority list this FA. Mike Jones from the Post has said that we are to be looking at Winston, he's usually plugged in and reliable ---------- Post added March-13th-2012 at 03:03 PM ---------- visited with the Lions yesterday. Could see him getting snagged fairly quick, kids a beast Not disagreeing, but was 5th rounder by many before pro day, shouldn't jump to anything earlier than mid 3rd round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted March 13, 2012 Author Share Posted March 13, 2012 Mike Jones from the Post has said that we are to be looking at Winston, he's usually plugged in and reliable. Yeah, I'd tend to agree with that. Jones is one of the few who know what they're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Saw Grubbs was gonna command a $32 mil contract and really don't think he fits our scheme. Thank God for that because the $$ is ridiculous. Where did you see this? And 32 mil over how many years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahons21 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Agreed still looking like a 4th round pick to me, but love his potential I'll have to go check out some cut-ups you guys are getting me all excited n ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukes and Skins Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I'll have to go check out some cut-ups you guys are getting me all excited n ****. sorry Mahons lemme go find some cut ups on youtube. Found one or two somewhere but I'm pretty sure it was Youtube haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champskins Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Here you go Mahons: "Miami (OH) OG Brandon Brooks weighed in at 6-foot-5, 346 and bench pressed 225 pounds 36 times at his Pro Day on Thursday. The biggest snub of the 2012 Combine, Brooks projects as a second-day pick and was an all-star game phenom after dominating in the MAC. At the Pro Day, Brooks showed his athleticism with a 4.98 forty comparable to Cordy Glenn's in Indianapolis. Brooks' 10-yard split was a similarly impressive 1.71, and his 4.52 short shuttle would have beaten every offensive lineman at the Combine." http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7498/brandon-brooks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flexxskins Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Carl Nicks (G): 6'5", 343. 26 years old, played in New Orleans. He's probably too big to play in the ZBS, but he's a top guard and might be able to pick it up. He would be an upgrade.:applause:Kudos Hitman for starting this thread, it is long overdue.With regards to Nicks, I don't know whether or not you have seen him play, but every time I have watched the Saints play I can't take my eyes off of this guy. There are 3 things that I love seeing in a offensive lineman, and Nicks has them and does them all and more. One, is that I love watching a O-lineman pancake a D-lineman or LB, and Nicks does it on a constant. Two, is that I love watching a O-lineman get a hat on two different players whether run blocking or pass blocking and again, I've watched Nicks do just that on numerous occasions. And three is watching O-linemen in space, and watching someone as massive as Nicks roll that body out in space and place a couple of players on their asses at a time is fun to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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