Indianapolis Colts Decision: Luck or RGIII and Who decides?

[SKINS'n'Spurs]

Now that the landscape is a little more clear for us Skins fans what is the next thing to worry about?

I've been absolutely thrilled for about 20 some hours that the #2 Draft Pick Trade was going to happen for us. I want to go out and order an authentic RG III jersey right now! And slowly that joy has been met with some anxiety over whether or not we will even be able to wear our new RG3 in DC t-shirts. Regardless of what you think about the trade I would like to know what people think will go down as far as who the Colts will choose. Some users on ES have said that Irsay wants Luck but some of his staff want RGIII, but I haven't seen any direct quotes backing this up.

Indy has gone through a lot of changes recently. It's official that the Polians are out. Manning is gone. Who will be in control of their draft? Will Irsay have the only say?

"the Colts have not said they will draft Andrew Luck; it's only assumed. The Redskins will gladly take whichever quarterback the Colts do not." - http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1098467-2012-nfl-mock-draft-rams-redskins-trade-shakes-up-first-round/page/3

They just hired a new GM - Ryan Grigson, new OC- Bruce Arians, and new head coach - Chuck Pagano

Just doing some quick google searches I have found that Grigson has basically just been a scout for a while -

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Who-is-Ryan-Grigson.html

and hasn't done much except cut Peyton Manning and release a bunch of other guys from the Colt's roster - http://blogs.indystar.com/philb/2012/03/09/grigsons-job-just-got-tougher/

Chuck Pagano doesn't seem to factor in to this decision too much as he is a former DC from the Ravens. I doubt having worked with Flacco will be much help in deciding between Luck or RGIII.

Bruce Arians the new OC is coming form the Steelers, where it seems his performance wasn't good enough and he was retired for a whole 8 days, haha. - "During his time as coordinator, he turned the Steelers from a run-first team to a pass-heavy one to better suit Roethlisberger."

- http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7513729/source-bruce-arians-indianapolis-colts-new-offensive-coordinator

So wouldn't a guy with that history of going away from the run and being pass heavy prefer a Luck over an RGIII?

Obviously the Colts fans think we are idiots for making this trade

(http://forums.colts.com/index.php?/topic/6059-redskins-trade-for-2nd-pick/)

But what do some of our more knowledgeable and well connected friends have to say?

Since the news of our trade is only about 24hrs old I imagine the Colts are still reacting to this information and the Indy Press as well, but our moving up shouldn't affect their decision in the slightest. So if you do come across some new articles with a Colt's perspective on the #2pick trade or on why these new coaches and front office guys would prefer one over the other please throw it on this thread.

*I did a quick run through of some of the other threads regarding the Colts trade choices, but didn't see anything too recent in regards to their reaction to our trade or what their new coaches and front office guys will want to do with the # 1 pick now that Manning is officially moving on/being moved on. so please merge this thread if need be... my apologies if I overlooked another similar thread.

[HLF]

Would be surprised if the Colts dont sign Luck in the next few weeks.

[SkinFaninOKC]

The Colts don't care one bit about what anyone thinks or does. They have the first pick and will use it on Andrew Luck, if they passed their fan base would riot. We've put ourselves in a postion to get a potential franchise QB for the next 10 years, if Colts think we're stupid for trading how stupid would we look if we didn't even try to go after that second pick? **** Colts fans and the Mayflowers they ride on.

[CrabR]

If we made the trade to RG3 and not Luck then we should have waited till draft day to see what the colts did. They could have wanted RG3 all along and just keeping mum

[HLF]

If we made the trade to RG3 and not Luck then we should have waited till draft day to see what the colts did. They could have wanted RG3 all along and just keeping mum

Prolly wouldve cost us in the end. Rams did the right thing and gave it up when the worth was at its peak.

[SKINS'n'Spurs]

If we made the trade to RG3 and not Luck then we should have waited till draft day to see what the colts did. They could have wanted RG3 all along and just keeping mum

So you're saying that if we only want RGIII we should have waited on this trade to see what the Colts are going to do?

I feel like if we waited, the Browns would have locked up this #2 pick and we would be **** out of Luck...zing! (or RGIII for that matter).

I'm glad we did it early, obviously everyone else was doing the same... Miami, Philly, and Cleveland were all offering for the trade so I have heard. There was no waiting around for this trade... but that's not really the point of this thread.

I want to know what the chances are of the Colts taking Luck vs RGIII and more importantly why does one fit their new system better than ours.

[Prototype]

Luck definitely suits Indianapolis' offense more. He can make all the throws from the pocket, which is what their OC likes. And as much as I like RG3 better due to his mobility, i'll have to admit Luck is still the better QB prospect. They would be dumb not to take him 1st.

Plus, he looks well suited with "LUCK" on the back of blue Colts jersey with the horseshoe on the helmet, not that it really matters...

[SkinFaninOKC]

At least one Colts fan has a brain.

[boston skins fan]

Would be surprised if the Colts dont sign Luck in the next few weeks.

if the colts sign lusck say on wed. can we sign griffen?

[HLF]

if the colts sign lusck say on wed. can we sign griffen?

Nah, only the 1st pick can be signed before the draft.

[boston skins fan]

thats stupid though if the colts sign luck and the skins know there taking RGIII in theory they should beable to sign him

[SWFLSkins]

It is not a difficult spot to be in either guy is worth building a team around. I am happy we get which ever guy they don't want.

[Mocountyskins]

Either way we get a potential franchise QB i am 100% sure that come the press conference after the draft if we took RG3 Shanny will say "We wanted RG3 all along we have him rated higher then Luck" and if we take Luck he will say "We didnt think Luck would be in play and we were blessed and got our guy"

[Hitman21ST]

Both Luck and RG3 are good fits for our offense. RG3 is probably a little better because he's more of a threat to run off the bootleg, etc, but Luck would be a damn good fit too. As was said in an earlier thread, we're in the best position because now we don't have to choose and be second guessed. Meaning, if the Colts take Luck, we nab RG3, and RG3 does better - people will be saying the Colts made the wrong decision. If they both succeed, great. We're in practically a win-win situation here.

[SKINS'n'Spurs]

Here is an article on the Steeler's offense under Bruce Arians - http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2012/3/8/2852810/the-fatal-flaw-in-the-bruce-arians-offense

it says "The Steelers offense for the past several years at any rate could certainly be characterized as utilizing the pass "frequently, persistently, and continuously."

It goes on to say that Arians is a huge long pass fan even to the point that if a long pass is intercepted, fine, it's just like a punt...so this makes me think he may prefer a guy like RGIII who has been thought to have a better deep ball.

[FSUSkins24]

Now that the landscape is a little more clear for us Skins fans what is the next thing to worry about?

This right here. Not yet, still ridin high. Don't need anything to worry about right now. Shanallen has got us covered.

[rambler01]

Now that the landscape is a little more clear for us Skins fans what is the next thing to worry about?

I've been absolutely thrilled for about 20 some hours that the #2 Draft Pick Trade was going to happen for us. I want to go out and order an authentic RG III jersey right now! And slowly that joy has been met with some anxiety over whether or not we will even be able to wear our new RG3 in DC t-shirts.

We'll take which ever QB is available at #2.....open and shut case. All signs point to Luck being the #1 overall (I'm actually surprised he hasn't been offered a deal like weeks ago). However; human beings are a psychological bunch. The only way the Colts take Griffin III at #1 overall is if they were intrigued by our utter determination and desire to seemingly draft Griffin III at #2. Perhaps thinking to themselves "the kid must have IT for a team to part ways with numerous high impact draft picks". And in a turn of events, grab Griffin III for themselves.

Aside from that, I don't see any other way.

[skins island connection]

Honestly, its not set in stone that the Colts are going to take Luck. Its all 'presumed'.

I'm going to sit back and see, because the more talk about RGIII not only here but the rest of the league, the more uncertainty will develop in the Colts organization. [ I sad organ lol ] . It would be a huge 'whoa' moment if RGIII were chosen 1st, and frankly, would leave quite a few fans with that uneasy feeling of catching their girlfriend in bed with his dad, if that analogy properly fits.

I'm more curious as to what number they will be wearing more than anything...

[FrFan]

"Luck is The Guy", an unnamed source told Mike Silver of Yahoo! sports. "I don’t care what happens [at the Combine]. I don’t care if Griffin flies."

Luck can also do to Jim Irsay what John Elway did to his father Robert.

[DeadExField]

"Luck is The Guy", an unnamed source told Mike Silver of Yahoo! sports. "I don’t care what happens [at the Combine]. I don’t care if Griffin flies."

Luck can also do to Jim Irsay what John Elway did to his father Robert.

Luck went on record to say he'd be happy no matter who selected him, I don't see why not Indy, they've got a winning program, new digs, and a legacy of success at QB. They may not have talent RIGHT NOW but a lot can change in a season. Plus the Colts still have a draft, and next year's draft to build.

[FrFan]

Luck went on record to say he'd be happy no matter who selected him.

Thanks for the info, I thought he said he wouldn't like to play for fans who were rooting for their team to loose.

[redskinss]

i wonder what shanahan would say if a reporter asked him if he had the number one pick which quarterback would he take.

obviously he would have to dodge the question like a politician, but id love to hear his response.

[Geneva]

Now that the landscape is a little more clear for us Skins fans what is the next thing to worry about?

I've been absolutely thrilled for about 20 some hours that the #2 Draft Pick Trade was going to happen for us. I want to go out and order an authentic RG III jersey right now! And slowly that joy has been met with some anxiety over whether or not we will even be able to wear our new RG3 in DC t-shirts. Regardless of what you think about the trade I would like to know what people think will go down as far as who the Colts will choose. Some users on ES have said that Irsay wants Luck but some of his staff want RGIII' date=' but I haven't seen any direct quotes backing this up.

Indy has gone through a lot of changes recently. It's official that the Polians are out. Manning is gone. Who will be in control of their draft? Will Irsay have the only say?

"the Colts have not said they will draft Andrew Luck; it's only assumed. The Redskins will gladly take whichever quarterback the Colts do not." - [url']http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1098467-2012-nfl-mock-draft-rams-redskins-trade-shakes-up-first-round/page/3[/url]

They just hired a new GM - Ryan Grigson, new OC- Bruce Arians, and new head coach - Chuck Pagano

Just doing some quick google searches I have found that Grigson has basically just been a scout for a while -

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Who-is-Ryan-Grigson.html

and hasn't done much except cut Peyton Manning and release a bunch of other guys from the Colt's roster - http://blogs.indystar.com/philb/2012/03/09/grigsons-job-just-got-tougher/

Chuck Pagano doesn't seem to factor in to this decision too much as he is a former DC from the Ravens. I doubt having worked with Flacco will be much help in deciding between Luck or RGIII.

Bruce Arians the new OC is coming form the Steelers, where it seems his performance wasn't good enough and he was retired for a whole 8 days, haha. - "During his time as coordinator, he turned the Steelers from a run-first team to a pass-heavy one to better suit Roethlisberger."

- http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7513729/source-bruce-arians-indianapolis-colts-new-offensive-coordinator

So wouldn't a guy with that history of going away from the run and being pass heavy prefer a Luck over an RGIII?

Obviously the Colts fans think we are idiots for making this trade

(http://forums.colts.com/index.php?/topic/6059-redskins-trade-for-2nd-pick/)

But what do some of our more knowledgeable and well connected friends have to say?

Since the news of our trade is only about 24hrs old I imagine the Colts are still reacting to this information and the Indy Press as well, but our moving up shouldn't affect their decision in the slightest. So if you do come across some new articles with a Colt's perspective on the #2pick trade or on why these new coaches and front office guys would prefer one over the other please throw it on this thread.

*I did a quick run through of some of the other threads regarding the Colts trade choices, but didn't see anything too recent in regards to their reaction to our trade or what their new coaches and front office guys will want to do with the # 1 pick now that Manning is officially moving on/being moved on. so please merge this thread if need be... my apologies if I overlooked another similar thread.

[DeadExField]

Thanks for the info, I thought he said he wouldn't like to play for fans who were rooting for their team to loose.

"I'll be happy wherever I land. Whether it be pick one through 270," Luck told ESPN. "I just want a chance to playoff professional football. It's been a dream. Whatever situation I end up in, I'm sure it'll be for the best."

http://www.sbnation.com/2011-nfl-draft/2012/1/3/2679036/2012-nfl-draft-andrew-luck-says-hell-play-wherever-hes-picked

[RonYoungEra]

While I still think the Colts pick will be Luck, there's no denying that RG3 is on an amazing ride to the top (1/2). RG3 has unparalleled charisma (from his wacky socks to his charming interviews), making him the perfect face of the franchise. The Colts, with the cuts this week of so many starters, are in an obvious rebuild. Luck's ready to start ballin' from day 1. RG3 may be the perfect fit for a team in full-on rebuild mode, as he can grow w/the new team from the ground up. Just something to consider, especially since the Colts seem to be in no rush to get a deal with #1 done. Maybe they're waiting for both pro days to be completed and will make their decision then. It just seems hard to think that they really would NOT go after Luck, but you never know until their deal is done.