S.T.real,lights,out Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Some feel that the Rams have already invested too much on the OLine, but I agree that they should take Kalil because they can take a good WR in the second round. The first five picks of the draft are dependent on what happens in free agency. Minnesota or St Louis might find a WR and/or OT in free agency and decide to take Claiborne in the draft. That might set up Cleveland to take Blackmon at #4, which would set up Tampa Bay to take Richardson at #5. That would leave Washington with Griffin at #6. There are so many possibilities right now, but free agency will trim the possibilities down. You are 100% right that FA will really shape the draft...however i dont see anyway we stay at 6 and get RGIII. Whoever wants him will have to trade up to 2 or 3 IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
“Misdirection” Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 This is how I feel about Brandon Weeden; if he shows that he can play at the next level and learn quickly to start Day 1, then we are in absolutely no position to complain about his age. If we took him with a 3rd round pick and he pans out for 6-7 years, he'd LITERALLY be the best thing we've had since Mark Rypien! The bottom line is that Griffin III could be a lost cause and Rex Grossman cannot be the 2012 starting QB if Shannahan expects to retain his job past next season. At this point in time, all options need to be considered and that includes 29 year old rookie Brandon Weeden at QB for the Washington Redskins.I wouldn't mind going OL if we couldn't trade down after missing out on Griffin III. However, my preference would be to go best WR at #6 (particularly one with size comparable to Hakeem Nicks and Dez Bryant). We need a tall wideout like that to take advantage of small CBs creating opportunities for jump balls down field. I wouldn't mind weeden if RG3 turns out to be unattainable, i'm sure he could be just as effective as rex at the minimum. He don't think he'll be great though, and the 'draft a QB' thing won't go away. And also, you need to either take out the picture in your sig or adjust to fit the size listed in the rules. Here's the link, it's number 15: http://www.extremeskins.com/announcement.php?f=24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Check out this Mock. Has the Skins trading down TWICE and picking Tannehill at 27. We pick up a 2nd, two 3rds and an extra 2nd next year in the process. If only this could be true. http://fanspeak.com/nfldraft/2012/02/02/2012-nfl-mock-draft-round-1-202/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotalRecall Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Why do people keep bringing weeden up? He's suppose to be like 29 when the season starts..who in their right mind would want a 29 year old rookie? Because there is a huge drop-off from Luck and RG3 to the rest of the QBs, except for Weeden. Weeden would be a 1st round QB, if not for his age. I didn't say he would be "the franchise QB", but he would, AT THE LEAST, be a great back-up QB to have for 7+ years. We already know what we have at QB. Weeden would be just another stop-gap option until the 2013 draft. If we don't get Luck or RG3, I think we will be drafting "the franchise QB" in 2013 anyways, no matter who is at QB in 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayAction Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 If we're stuck at 6 and can't get RGIII or Luck, then I'd really consider drafting Coples Coples is in the 280s and Haslett wants his DEs to be a good 30lbs heavier. Everything I've read about Coples indicates that he's potentially very good as a DE in the 4-3 front but not suited to a 3-4 DE. I'm one of the ones that wants a RT in the draft but not high up at pick 6. The only plus to this pick IMO is that if Trent Williams fails another drug test you would have a high talent replacement on the roster. I'd much rather trade down if it were possible. Of course, picks 2-5 are just preliminary guesses...the combine and pro days will move things around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Robert Griffin Experience Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Coples is in the 280s and Haslett wants his DEs to be a good 30lbs heavier. Everything I've read about Coples indicates that he's potentially very good as a DE in the 4-3 front but not suited to a 3-4 DE. I do not think he's a great 4-3 DE. I think he's a great 3 tech or a great 5 tech with a bit of bulking up. As a 4-3 DE he looks to me more like Shaun Ellis than Julius Peppers or Jason Pierre-Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregpeck99 Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 My game plan calls for the Skins to trade down to grab Mel Ingram (12-17) ... then trade up with NE at bottom of first round to grad BrockO whio will dazzle at combine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLRedskins Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Can we just skip the month of March (except St Patties day ) and get to the draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enter Apotheosis Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 I see you attended my recent self-help/success seminar, DFlo. I'm glad to see it's working out for you. For those of you who are unfamiliar with my work, I present to you the following outline of my number one running program... EA's Guide to Running a Successful Football Web Site in 10 Easy Steps Step One: Create a web site for your NFL mock drafts, statistics, and/or general ramblings. Use a long, generic, and somewhat mysterious domain name. Do not spend a lot of time making the site appear professional. Professionalism is for chumps. Step Two: Prepare your information but remember that time is money and the secret to success is spending a minimum of time/money on product quality. For example, if you are making a mock draft web site be sure to only mock out the first round, no one really cares about those other rounds anyway. Step Three: Slap some other information on to your site to give it the illusion of content. A draft order page, some links to sites everyone already knows about, and a one sentence contact page whose sole purpose is to provide a gmail address ought to suffice. Be sure to include some fantasy football data for good measure. Everyone loves fantasy football. Step Four: Create an account on ExtremeSkins. Make a first post asking about when you'll be allowed to start your own threads. Step Five: Start your own threads featuring your own original content. Be sure not to participate elsewhere on the board or otherwise actually be a part of the community! Step Six: Repeat steps four and five liberally for forums of every NFL team: http://boards.bengals.com/tags.php?tag=nfl+mock+draft+2012 http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/mobile/index.php?num=161154 http://www.vikingsmessageboard.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=24033 http://www.chiefscrowd.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19796 http://forums.newyorkjets.com/showthread.php?p=154878 http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1855045 http://www.packerforum.com/threads/new-2012-nfl-mock-draft.31710/ http://www.steeleraddicts.com/forum/showthread.php?33683-New-2012-NFL-Mock-Draft http://www.jetsinsider.com/forums/tags.php?tag=nfl+mock+draft+2012 http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/vb/tags.php?tag=nfl+mock+draft+2012 etc. Make sure to cover all your bases! Step Seven: Step Eight: Become competition for Football Outsiders, Walter Football, ProFootballFocus, or whomever you most envy. Step Nine: ELIMINATE THE COMPETITION Step Ten: Profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 If step seven can down that without stopping for breath, I see possibilities. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 If we had to stay at 6 and couldn't draft a QB, I would take Ashlon Jeffrey. :no: If we're going to take a WR not named Blackmon, we're going to get Michael Floyd. Similar size, nowhere near the issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.T.real,lights,out Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 If step seven can down that without stopping for breath, I see possibilities. Hail. Yea....i would say 2nd rounder!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epochalypse Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 :no:If we're going to take a WR not named Blackmon, we're going to get Michael Floyd. Similar size, nowhere near the issues. Unless you consider multiple arrests including a DUI as issues... http://www.wndu.com/localnews/headlines/118350134.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Unless you consider multiple arrests including a DUI as issues...http://www.wndu.com/localnews/headlines/118350134.html Yet he was allowed back on the field and posted a 100 catch season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvtbred Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 :no:If we're going to take a WR not named Blackmon, we're going to get Michael Floyd. Similar size, nowhere near the issues. I don't see either because their are too many good receivers in FA of which we will have one before the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 I don't see either because their are too many good receivers in FA of which we will have one before the draft. Oh, I agree with you, no doubt about it. I was just saying that Floyd would be preferred over Jeffrey. Maybe it's just me, but I actually want to see us get Tommy Streeter from Miami in a later round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvtbred Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Oh, I agree with you, no doubt about it. I was just saying that Floyd would be preferred over Jeffrey.Maybe it's just me, but I actually want to see us get Tommy Streeter from Miami in a later round. I also like Floyd better and think he will have a very good NFL career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE HAMMER'IN HOG Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 If we don't go QB at 6 and there is no reasonable trade offers to move down, then I think we go with Kirkpatrick, he would be a no brainer if it wasn't for the Marijuana issue, a lot of work will have to be done in investigating his charector but shutdown corners are tough to come by. I think at 6 you have to go with the best available talent which should be easy for us because we have needs every where. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvtbred Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 If we don't go QB at 6 and there is no reasonable trade offers to move down' date=' then I think we go with Kirkpatrick, he would be a no brainer if it wasn't for the Marijuana issue, a lot of work will have to be done in investigating his charector but shutdown corners are tough to come by. I think at 6 you have to go with the best available talent which should be easy for us because we have needs every where.[/quote']Would love it especially since I as big a Bama fan as I am a Redskin fan but just because of the pot issue and what happened with Trent and Fred I think Danny would see it as a PR nightmare. Don't think he would like the team being called a bunch of potheads and yes I think he would stop Shanny from drafting him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Acre Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 if we don't get a FA QB or any help in FA for the line, drop down and get decastro and another g/c to solidify the line A trade with Cinci for its 17 & 21 (fair trade for Trent Richardson, who would really help them), could net us DeCastro and Konz ©, who along with Williams would really solidy the line. They sure as hell wouldn't be getting tossed around at the LOS like many of our interior linemen have for years. Pickup Mitchell Schwartz (RT-Cal) with our 2nd rounder and you have Williams-DeCastro-Konz-Lichtensteiger-Schwartz, which is a potentially dominant line, except on Sat. when Mitchell Schwartz goes to synagogue. (I kid - I have no idea what religion he is, but when I first saw his name, he struck me as some guy whose Bar Mitzvah I went to.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epochalypse Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Yet he was allowed back on the field and posted a 100 catch season. I wasn't aware a 100 catch season expunged your criminal record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 I wasn't aware a 100 catch season expunged your criminal record. It doesn't, but Notre Dame allowed him back on the field after suspending him "indefinitely" for this after last season. They must have deemed it a past issue to allow him to play. If it's good for them, it's good for us. Donte Stallworth has a criminal record, he didn't have any issues for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epochalypse Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 It doesn't, but Notre Dame allowed him back on the field after suspending him "indefinitely" for this after last season. They must have deemed it a past issue to allow him to play. If it's good for them, it's good for us.Donte Stallworth has a criminal record, he didn't have any issues for us. My point was that Floyd has a history of "issues" with alcohol in his past. It is my sincere hope that Shanahan does his homework on him and it's also my sincere hope that the young man has turned around from that problem, but to say that we should select Floyd over Jeffery, because he has less issues, I disagree with. Floyd had issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 My point was that Floyd has a history of "issues" with alcohol in his past. It is my sincere hope that Shanahan does his homework on him and it's also my sincere hope that the young man has turned around from that problem, but to say that we should select Floyd over Jeffery, because he has less issues, I disagree with. Floyd had issues. Fair enough. I was just talking about athletic issues anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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