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Why isn't the Lambeau Leap a 15 yard penalty?


RonArtest15

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Question raised on the SC blog...what's the difference between what VD did and someone dunking on the goalposts?

Dunking on the goalposts is explicitly allowed, what VD did is not. If you're driving at the fact that the rules are completely and utterly arbitrary... well, no ****. The rules are made by a committee of guys who watched a bunch of celebrations and essentially decided to create rules to ban the ones they didn't personally like. It's bound to be completely arbitrary.

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So you can jump into the stands because that's not part of the field, and you can dunk on the goal posts just because you can. But you cannot jump on top of a camera stand? That's right its in the field of play lol

No Fun League :ols:

I like to think that by banning group celebrations, the NFL helped spawn the assholishness of TO and Randy Moss. Instead of embracing their teammates after a score, they learned to embrace...themselves.

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The Lambeau Leap is not - and should not - be a penalty. The "grandfathered in" reference by Aikman and Buck isn't entirely the case. Jumping into the stands doesn't matter, and wouldn't be penalized, because it doesn't take place on the field.

With this reasoning, standing on the camera platform should not be penalized either. It's not on the filed.

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Also, isn't dunking on the "Goalpost" using it as a "prop?" You can't touch the pilons in the corners, you can't punch the pad on the goalpost, you can't go on the camera stand, but you can dunk it "over" the goalpost.

My solution has always been this: Let the do "ANYTHING" they want to do, but have the umpire place the ball on the ground and the ref start the play clock. If you are too busy celebrating, and not lining up for the extra point, delay of game. Speed up the ball placement and you'll see alot less celebrating (time wise, drawn out) and alot more flags flying.

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I think VD's jumping on the camera stand added an element of taunting that jumping into the stands or dunking on the goal post does not.

---------- Post added January-23rd-2012 at 06:36 AM ----------

Also, isn't dunking on the "Goalpost" using it as a "prop?" You can't touch the pilons in the corners, you can't punch the pad on the goalpost, you can't go on the camera stand, but you can dunk it "over" the goalpost.

In that case, spiking the ball is using the field as a "prop" lol...I think they look at dunking the ball on/over the goal post as a form of spiking the ball, which is of course allowed.

Basically, I get the feeling that any form of celebration that is either taunting or overly self-aggrandizing will get the flag, because that's what the league is wanting to cut down on...

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