NoCalMike Posted September 24, 2003 Share Posted September 24, 2003 Once Ramsey had to scramble back & forth, I really thought the 2-point attempt was over, but I was confident that we would get the ball back with plenty of time to score in some fashion again. Well it all played out that way except it was a field goal to tie the game rather then winning it. Watching the offense on the final drive of the game, I really thought had they been FORCED to score SEVEN, they could have, however they knew it was better to tie the game then not taking a chance on a chipshot field goal. I still wonder though, had it been 21-16, and had the Skins been forced to score a TD, could they have pulled it off.....I guess this whole throught process is pretty moot since that isn't what happened, but the Giants D just looked so darn tired on that last drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Hard Posted September 24, 2003 Share Posted September 24, 2003 Certainly interesting to contemplate. Entirely possible. But don't dwell. It's not healthy If the Skins didn't get that penalty late in that final drive.... I'm sure we would have gone for the TD and converted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurent Posted September 24, 2003 Share Posted September 24, 2003 Spurrier admitted as much as blowing it when they got down to the 20 yard line on the final drive. Maybe instead of going for the kill shot it would have been nice to run either Betts or Candidate up the middle or maybe a toss/sweep to the outside. Ramsey also took a pretty bad sack there and probably should have gotten rid of the ball instead of holding on to the ball to make a play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinker Posted September 24, 2003 Share Posted September 24, 2003 I think SOS played it like most NFL coaches would have played it - smart and a little conservative. Play for the tie at home. IF PR fumbles or throws a pick and the gints win in regulation - SOS gets pilloried by the fans and media. Sometimes you do the smart thing and it doesn't work out any way. The Skins d had shut down the gints for the whole second half and the o was moving at will. Somehow into OT momentum shifted. The gints dug deep and made a few plays when by all accounts one would have expected them to give up. The Skins d suddenly disappeared after just dominating for the second half. The gints made a ton of plays on the OT drive and the Skins really none. Going into OT I doubt many betting men would have said the gints were the favorites to win. And frankly on the OT drive the gints didn't really make any spectacular plays - it was possibly their most consistent, straightforward, businesslike drive of the game. The Skins were misalligned on several plays ( no coverage on wr's) didn't tackle (Barber run), freelanced or blew coverage (dump in the flat to the fb for 30+ yards). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inmate running the asylum Posted September 24, 2003 Share Posted September 24, 2003 LaVar has already admitted that he gambled and lost, when he left Finn uncovered for that 30 yard reception. Oh well, you can go back and say WHAT IF a zillion times, but the game is over. So why beat our brains out second-guessing. The game the Giants lost to the Cowboys on MNF was a heart breaker too. I think we have to move on now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom [Giants fan] Posted September 24, 2003 Share Posted September 24, 2003 It is funny someone brought this up. When I was watching the game and the Skins were going for the two point conversion, I was hoping he made it. I was worried about this exact thing. I figured since the Skins were home, they were less likely to try to risk going for the win and would settle for the FG and take it to overtime. It worried me that they would be down by more than 3 and would need a TD to win the way they were moving the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSchwartz Posted September 24, 2003 Share Posted September 24, 2003 I know what changed momentum in overtime. Maybe the coin toss, the only thing that went the Giants way in the 2nd half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted September 24, 2003 Share Posted September 24, 2003 that is an interesting question. i never even thought about it. at the time i was just elated we got it so that we'd have a better chance of tying up the game. in hindsight i definitely agree that we probably would have had a better chance to score a TD if he HAD to. not saying we WOULD have but i think with first and 10 at the 19 and PLENTY of time, we had a good shot. funny how things work out sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted September 24, 2003 Share Posted September 24, 2003 I dont think so. If we were down by 5, I dont think the Giants would have attempted a pass. They would have run the ball and taken it to the 2 minute warning. then run again and take it down to 1.20 or thereabouts before punting. I dont think we would have gotten down that clse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennesseeCarl Posted September 24, 2003 Share Posted September 24, 2003 Tom, I don't know if you addressed it in any of your posts (I apologize if I missed it), but were you (and your Giant brethren) having trouble maintaining sphincter control during that 4th quarter? After years of watching the Skins piss 'em away, I know I'd have had trouble watching that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom [Giants fan] Posted September 24, 2003 Share Posted September 24, 2003 TennesseeCarl, All I kept thinking was, "not again". :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennesseeCarl Posted September 24, 2003 Share Posted September 24, 2003 It's a bad feeling, and we're very familiar with it. That re-match in the Meadowlands should be a great one. And I'll bet the penalty count won't be a whole lot less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted September 24, 2003 Share Posted September 24, 2003 Skins may still be able to split the series this year once they get a handle on mental mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins26 Posted September 24, 2003 Share Posted September 24, 2003 I'm thinking more along the lines of if Trotter hadnt have tipped that pass, it was going to go right into Matt Bowen's hands, who was on the run already towards the endzone, i think he could have returned it for a TD giving us a 25-21 lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted September 24, 2003 Share Posted September 24, 2003 skins26, i almost forgot about that play. that one had me jumping around my family room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankbones Posted September 24, 2003 Share Posted September 24, 2003 I turned to my girlfriend after the 2 point conversion and said, "I almost wish we hadn't made that" After explaining my logic I was given a bewildered look that can not be expressed in mere words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kornheiser Posted September 25, 2003 Share Posted September 25, 2003 When they didn't get the 1rst down, I knew if we lost in overtime, that was the main reason why. 2nd settling for FG on the opening drive in like fashion. 3rd, the 3&29 penalties. 4rth, the FG that hit the Goal post. God, looking back on it, it seems like it just wasn't meant to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woofer Posted September 25, 2003 Share Posted September 25, 2003 Originally posted by TheSchwartz I know what changed momentum in overtime. Maybe the coin toss, the only thing that went the Giants way in the 2nd half. I think it happened before the coin toss. Fassell gathered his team around him and made a speech. Obviously, we did not hear that speech, but you can bet he lit a fire under them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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