KCClybun Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I want to try something. It's something that I think I've noticed, but I just wanted to have more solid numbers behind it. Its hard to tell when everyone doesn't have their age posted, but generally speaking, I'm finding that fans over the age of thirty tend to skew one way, and fans under that age tend to skew another way. I know MSF has one thread, but generally speaking, I feel there's a weird age gap brewing in the Redskins fanbase. It's not, like, all our war, but it's real and tangible. I picked the age of 35 because it's the age at which people the split happens; if you're 35 or over, that's the last point at which you would feasibly remember the Redskins last two Super Bowl victories in 1987 and 1991. The younger amongst that group would've been around 13-15 at that period. Meanwhile, If you're like me (born in 1987)...well, I was only four when the Redskins won that Super Bowl. I appreciate what Gibbs did, but really have no concept of it outside of knowing that we won those those Super Bowls. I wasn't even alive when the Redskins won in 1982. So this is my poll, because I want to see if my idea of what's going on in the fanbase is real or just bull****, basically. EDIT: Okay, so my poll isn't cooperating right now. I want to be specific, though, so I'll post the answers to the poll questions here. I'll asked for everyone to remain civilized and give a well reasoned answer as to why you chose a particular course of action. Now... Assuming Andrew Luck is the 1st overall pick of the Indianapolis Colts, the Redskins should... 1.) I'm under the age of 35, and want the Redskins to trade anything possible to draft Robert Griffin III. 2.) I'm under the age of 35, and wouldn't mind the Redskins trading a reasonable amount of picks to move up to draft Robert Griffin III, and would be fine trading down and/or picking up a quarterback up a quarterback in the later rounds if neither were available. 3.) I'm under the age of 35 and don't believe the Redskins should trade up. We should either stay at pick six and draft BPA, or trade down to get more picks to fill more holes. If RGIII or falls to 6, we take him, but we can't afford to give up picks. We can pick up a developmental quarterback like Andy Dalton in the later rounds who may be able to start day one if we can't secure a veteran back-up. 4.) I'm under the age of 35 and believe the Redskins should look into to signing a free agent like Matt Flynn or, potentially, Peyton Manning. They should keep the sixth pick in the draft and draft a quarterback prospect in the later rounds to develop. If RGIII is the BPA at number 6, fine, but we can't afford to give up picks. 5.) I'm age 35 or over and want the Redskins to trade anything possible to draft Robert Griffin III. 6.) I'm 35 or over, and wouldn't mind the Redskins trading a reasonable amount of picks to move up to draft Robert Griffin III, and would be fine trading down and/or picking up a quarterback up a quarterback in the later rounds if neither were available. 7.) I'm 35 or over, and don't believe the Redskins should trade up. We should either stay at pick six and draft BPA, or trade down to get more picks to fill more holes. If RGIII or falls to 6, we take him, but we can't afford to give up picks. We can pick up a developmental quarterback like Andy Dalton in the later rounds who may be able to start day one if we can't secure a solid veteran back-up. 8.) I'm 35 or over and believe the Redskins should look into to signing a free agent like Kyle Orton, Matt Flynn or, potentially, Peyton Manning. They should keep the sixth pick in the draft and draft a quarterback prospect in the later rounds to develop. If RGIII is the BPA at number 6, fine, but we can't afford to give up picks. If we do this, we can compete immediately and fill holes in other areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Yup, its been brewing for years now. 30-35 is the cutoff. Those of us who are 30ish have solid memories of Superbowl 26. Superbowl 22 is fuzzy and we were babies in during Superbowl 17 35 year olds have real good memories of the entire 80s run. Anyone under 28 really has no real memory of Redskins glory God help those of you who are teens :doh: The younger crowd, with little memory of the dominant Hogs, isn't nearly as concerned about the o-line as the older crowd with the "build the Hogs again and lets plug in Case Keenum!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Well, uh, we won the SB in 1987 (season, 88 calendar.) I'm 34 (though only a few months from 35) and I remember the first one too. But I was a football fan at a young age (not that I remember any of them play-by-play anymore) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonez3 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 poll? But seriously, time always marches on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jflow78 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Yup, its been brewing for years now.30-35 is the cutoff. Those of us who are 30ish have solid memories of Superbowl 26. Superbowl 22 is fuzzy and we were babies in during Superbowl 17 35 year olds have real good memories of the entire 80s run. Anyone under 28 really has no real memory of Redskins glory God help those of you who are teens :doh: The younger crowd, with little memory of the dominant Hogs, isn't nearly as concerned about the o-line as the older crowd with the "build the Hogs again and lets plug in Case Keenum!" Totally agree. I'm in the boat who remember the Denver SB and the Bills SB, everything before that was history. The Denver SB was actually the very first football game I watched. BUT, I'm also not as worried about the OL. NLC, I'm curious as to what you think the difference is between the groups? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCClybun Posted January 13, 2012 Author Share Posted January 13, 2012 Well, uh, we won the SB in 1987 (season, 88 calendar.) I don't know why, but I always have that brainfart. Or I get 1991 and 1987 mixed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mayor of Fed Ex Field Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 31 1/2 here. I grew up with both parents being season ticket holders until 1992. So I remember 87 and 91, very vividly. Redskin fans come in all shapes, sizes, ages and colors. Ive seen 17 year olds that are die hards, ive seen 40 somethings that are not. I say no age gap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraofSkins08 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Yup, its been brewing for years now.30-35 is the cutoff. Those of us who are 30ish have solid memories of Superbowl 26. Superbowl 22 is fuzzy and we were babies in during Superbowl 17 35 year olds have real good memories of the entire 80s run. Anyone under 28 really has no real memory of Redskins glory God help those of you who are teens :doh: The younger crowd, with little memory of the dominant Hogs, isn't nearly as concerned about the o-line as the older crowd with the "build the Hogs again and lets plug in Case Keenum!" I'm 18...unfortunately I don't have any good Redskin playoff memories except for the '05 Tampa game and then in '07 the almost-comeback win against the Seahawks. My best memories...The Monday Night Miracle, Santana's OT TD to beat Jacksonville, the domination of Cowboys at FedEx in '05. Can't wait 'til the day we're in some actual big games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I pick number 5 and I'm 60. Some of us oldtimers want a winning QB, a QB to develop right along with our younger team and I don't care how much it takes to get a quality QB (Luck or RGIII and I don't mean Rex). I'm sick of us picking up FA QBs that are past their prime and at the end of their careers or QBs that are 2nd or 3rd tier. I'm tired of the Redskins being a mediocre team. I want an elite team that competes year in and year out, not just one and done and then rebuilding for another few years. No to Manning, No to Flynn etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 5.) I'm age 35 or over and want the Redskins to trade anything possible to draft Robert Griffin III. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cen Tex Skins Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 38 here. I remember all 3 Super Bowls vividly(well the first one is a tad hazy).However nothing beats when I was living in Buffalo, NY when we beat them in the SB!! my teachers hated me after that, I wore redskins hats,shirts,ties,coats etc... everyday for a month after the game LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpskins10 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Number 1 here. Let's get it done and then not have to worry about the QB position for a decade! We've thrown so many picks into the QB pot and have come up with Rex Grossman as our 2011 starter. Imagine if we could have used those resources for other positions. If we get RG3 now, we can do just that for the next 10-15 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 ALL anlyst have said that we desperately need a QB. Me too. We need to go very high and get RGIII. The odds of getting Luck are remote at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeefJerky Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 34 here and will be 35 in June. I remember every superbowl victory, although I was 6 when we beat miami so it's not so vivid. I'm in the try to trade up for RGIII crowd, whatever it takes. I feel for the younger crowd, having never felt what its like to see our beloved skins hoist the lombardi. Better days are ahead my friends. :point2sky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cen Tex Skins Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I choose #5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 1) I'm under 35 and want us to do what it takes to get Luck or RG3 (I'd much rather have Luck, but I'd also take RG3) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I'm over 35 and think if we'd have drafted Marino instead of Green we'd have won more than 3 SBs. That being said Manning is arguably the greatest QB ever playing in a progressively more pass friendly league yet how many has he won? Fact is you need a good QB and a good team and good coaches and some luck (cheating works here too, per Bill) to win a SB. We need to draft the QB not a QB. No. 6 for me in the poll. I'd like to be a GM trading with some of the anything possible crowd. 1, 2 and 3 this year followed by 1 and 2 next and a 1st to finish in 2014. Plus Williams and Hankerson. Good thing is both sides (faux GMs) would be happy with the trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jflow78 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I'm probably a little of 2 and 4. I want the Skins to get Griffin or Luck, but trading away an insane number of picks has never been a great idea no matter how much of a "sure thing" the guy you're trading for is rookie or vet (see Ricky Williams and Herschel Walker). I also am a huge fan of doing due diligence on every possibility (aka Flynn, Orton, Manning, etc as a backup option or a starter until the later round rookie you draft is ready to take over) because that's how good teams do their business. It's silly to shut off possible opportunities just because you're "in love". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCClybun Posted January 13, 2012 Author Share Posted January 13, 2012 NLC, I'm curious as to what you think the difference is between the groups? Well, just judging by some of the post about RGIII and the draft in general in the last couple weeks, it seems that there has been...reluctance to trade up and get a quarterback from some of the older fans. Some. Not all. I've seen people come at the issue from both sides on both sides of the age spectrum, but generally speaking, I felt like the fans who are old enough to really vividly remember at least two of those Super Bowl Victories (basically, if you're 35, you were 11 in '87 and 15 in '91), and particularly how Gibbs won the three Super Bowls (with the Hogs and three different quarterbacks) seem to skew away from drafting a quarterback high, and believe that you can find a quarterback lower in the draft. They generally value the other talent on the team (namely the o-line, like the Hogs, and the wide receivers, like the Posse and the Fun Bunch, along with solid defense) over getting a quarterback, and they value draft picks highly. The risk isn't worth the potential rewards in the face of the way we won it before, and because Dan Snyder has poisoned the well as far as trading picks goes. That's what I've found over the last couple weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jflow78 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 No. 6 for me in the poll. I'd like to be a GM trading with some of the anything possible crowd. 1, 2 and 3 this year followed by 1 and 2 next and a 1st to finish in 2014. Plus Williams and Hankerson. Good thing is both sides (faux GMs) would be happy with the trade. You sure that's not #5, cause that's an insane amount of picks to give up? Just wondering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCClybun Posted January 13, 2012 Author Share Posted January 13, 2012 You sure that's not #5, cause that's an insane amount of picks to give up? Just wondering. No, I think he's disagreeing with the "trade everything" crowd a little bit, saying that trading anything may not be all it's cracked up to be. He's still willing to give up a decent number of picks to get our guy, but not going crazy with it. Correct me if I'm wrong, Pedro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HogNose Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I pick number 5 and I'm 60. Some of us oldtimers want a winning QB, a QB to develop right along with our younger team and I don't care how much it takes to get a quality QB (Luck or RGIII and I don't mean Rex). I'm sick of us picking up FA QBs that are past their prime and at the end of their careers or QBs that are 2nd or 3rd tier. I'm tired of the Redskins being a mediocre team. I want an elite team that competes year in and year out, not just one and done and then rebuilding for another few years.No to Manning, No to Flynn etc. Same here. I remember the glory years , and I even remember the mediocre teams of the Pardee years of 78-80 when the his teams had a sort of "Norvel" type curse. I'm 43 and vote for #5. We are all starved for a successful QB around here and we need to trade up with the Rams and do what ever we can to get RG3. Hell if we can make a move for Luck then I'm all for it. Pull the damn trigger! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetThePointsSoar Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I'm a #2 leaning towards #1. Desperately want that QB but terrified of the risk & just happy someone way smarter than I in terms of football knowledge has their hands on the wheel of our proud franchise... I remember 87 and 91 pretty vividly, but damn, this next time around will be SO. MUCH. SWEETER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Kev Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Until recently I would have said #7, but I'm starting to think #6 would be a better option. I don't think I'll be sure of what I really want to happen until after the combine, maybe then I'll change to #5. I want to stop analysing it all, because there's just too many variables, but I can't. I think that my head might just explode before draft day comes around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetus Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 4.) I'm under the age of 35 and believe the Redskins should look into to signing a free agent like Matt Flynn or, potentially, Peyton Manning. They should keep the sixth pick in the draft and draft a quarterback prospect in the later rounds to develop. If RGIII is the BPA at number 6, fine, but we can't afford to give up picks. I'm 23 and I would love to draft RGIII if he is at number 6 but if he isn't then I say draft BPA and go with that. I would be happy with Matt Flynn if we can get him, I don't want Peyton at all. Reason behind this Peyton is old and fits the Indy scheme and, like McNabb, he might not fit ours. No more old QB's go with a back-up QB from another team or draft one. I also support trading down if the BPA at 6 is not going fill a need, say the BPA is a RB, we don't need to waste any picks anymore, we have to follow up last years draft, probably the best we have had since Snyder, with another just like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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