HtownRocks111 Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Romney is a scary individual. He is basically Obama. Goldman Sachs mainly supports both Obama and Romney, which both happened to support the bank bailout. Its basically a you scratch my back while I scratch yours type of deal. They've given Ron Paul $0 since he was against it. And while I'm at it... I thought this part of the debate was funny. Who wants to put a man in the position to take an oath to defend something he doesn't even understand? I don't agree with everything he does/says, but Ron Paul is by far the one the media/government is afraid of the most. They are shaking in their shoes, worried to death about him getting into office. Ron Paul 2012! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Spam ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONAWARPATH Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Spam..... Pretty much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predicto Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Welcome to the Tailgate, friend. So, who is this Ron Paul fellow? We've never heard of him. Tell us more, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted January 12, 2012 Share Posted January 12, 2012 Yes, I keep hearing whispered words about some caped crusader named Ron Paul and how he will fix everything. But I can't seem to find anything in The Tailgate about him. I think that rather odd since usually this place is swarming with political rants. I hear The Establishment and The Media are absolutely terrified of him. That must be why there isn't more here about him: it is a conspiracy so silence him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownRocks111 Posted January 13, 2012 Author Share Posted January 13, 2012 Yes, I keep hearing whispered words about some caped crusader named Ron Paul and how he will fix everything. But I can't seem to find anything in The Tailgate about him. I think that rather odd since usually this place is swarming with political rants. I hear The Establishment and The Media are absolutely terrified of him. That must be why there isn't more here about him: it is a conspiracy so silence him. Well I believe the thing with Ron Paul is, he wants to do a complete government overhaul. I mean there is recorded audio of government employees discussing most of them will be laid off if Paul becomes president. For them, its more of a "job security" issue then what Ron Paul stands for. You have to realize where Paul is coming from that the government is too large. This country was a great country, now I hear more and more people everyday that feel ashamed to be called an American. Here is a great quote I read on the net a few days ago about the status of "today in the USA": Obama now wants to raise the debt ceiling by over a trillion dollars? US blocking websites from citizens view as per there discretion. American citizens legally being able to be arrested, detained and imprisoned without cause or trial under the guise of terrorism that does not exist outside of what our tyrannical government pushes them to do by there continued unjust assault on the Arab world? I feel like I am dreaming and I woke up and wasn't back in my own reality but am stuck in one of my nightmares. What in God's name has happened to this country? Some of the people running for president have admitted by there own words they don't know what is written in our Constitution and they are winning states? What have we become? Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurseReversed Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Good topic. Why is the left so scared of ron paul? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I believe you missed the point of my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Oh, you meant those RP fanatics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Htown, sent you a PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busch1724 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 This question about Ron Paul came up in a thread the other week. There were a few people like me that think that the country is at a tipping point and looking for someone like Ron Paul. It may not be this election cycle, but it'll be soon. His popularity may cause some change within each party, but the two parties are too entrenched into the current system that they won't change enough for the people until Ron Paul or someone like him gets elected. Whoever the Repubs throw up against Obama, they will be one in the same. BTW: I'm not a 100% Ron Paul supporter, there are certainly things I disagree on with him. With that said, I haven't seen anyone that is willing to stand up and talk about the things that he does in a meaningful way. The last several election cycles, both parties have basically put forth the same candidate and it's like choosing the lesser of two evils. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Htown, sent you a PM good call ---------- Post added January-13th-2012 at 02:01 PM ---------- This question about Ron Paul came up in a thread the other week. There were a few people like me that think that the country is at a tipping point and looking for someone like Ron Paul. It may not be this election cycle, but it'll be soon. His popularity may cause some change within each party, but the two parties are too entrenched into the current system that they won't change enough for the people until Ron Paul or someone like him gets elected. Whoever the Repubs throw up against Obama, they will be one in the same. Well, there's not a lot of Ron Pauls out there and the guy is 96 years old, so they better hurry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busch1724 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 good call ---------- Post added January-13th-2012 at 02:01 PM ---------- Well, there's not a lot of Ron Pauls out there and the guy is 96 years old, so they better hurry I think part of the lack of Ron Pauls in government is the lack of them in local government. I think with some of his success, there will be others that will come out o the woodwork that figured it wasn't worth their time getting involved in government since they couldn't and wouldn't make an impact. When someone like a Ron Paul has some success on a level like this, it empowers people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 I think part of the lack of Ron Pauls in government is the lack of them in local government. I think with some of his success, there will be others that will come out o the woodwork that figured it wasn't worth their time getting involved in government since they couldn't and wouldn't make an impact. When someone like a Ron Paul has some success on a level like this, it empowers people. He had said that was the point of his running last election. This time, he's starting to look pretty strong, but he can't win. People are afraid of real change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Good topic.Why is the left so scared of ron paul? I think the establishment GOP is scared of Ron Paul. The Left is just witnessing this primary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sisko Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 He had said that was the point of his running last election. This time, he's starting to look pretty strong, but he can't win. People are afraid of real change. Correction. Most people want real change but they're not desperate enough to back a kook that wants to do silly stuff like get rid of the Fed and put us back on the gold standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GibbsFactor Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Good topic.Why is the left so scared of ron paul? That's talking about the right being worried that he'll continue to run to the convention, splitting the party, and then run 3rd party which will hurt Romney. I actually think a Ron Paul 3rd party would be a net split for both Obama and Romney meaning they would both lose equal votes to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubbs Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Jesus Christ, do you have any idea how much harm you're doing to your own cause? As someone who generally likes Ron Paul, I wholeheartedly support locking this thread and NNTing this guy. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 Jesus Christ, do you have any idea how much harm you're doing to your own cause?As someone who generally likes Ron Paul, I wholeheartedly support locking this thread and NNTing this guy. :doh: This give you an opportunity to empathize with how many of the conservatives of the board feel when Navy Dave posts. :pfft::pfft: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Facebook friend posted a link to this article. And since I didn't want to start another Ron Paul thread, I figured I'd hijack the most recent one. Tim Wise: Of Broken Clocks, Presidential Candidates, and the Confusion of Certain White Liberals Attention to all self-proclaimed liberals and progressives.I would like to properly introduce you to a man about whom you’ve heard much — especially from his enemies and those who prefer a continuation of the status quo — but at whom you might wish to take a second look, and whom you might consider supporting for president. Unlike Barack Obama, he supports an immediate end to our current and ongoing wars abroad. Unlike Barack Obama, he supports an end to predator drone attacks by the United States military, which kill innocent civilians and foment growing hatred of America. He believes that the so-called “war on terror” as we’ve engaged it has undermined American freedoms at home and contributed to greater tensions and anti-American sentiment abroad. Unlike Barack Obama, he supports an entirely revamped Middle East policy, in which the U.S. will no longer subsidize the oppression of the Palestinian people by the state of Israel. Unlike Barack Obama, he supports either abolishing or fundamentally reforming the Federal Reserve system, and he opposed bailing out the banks with public funds. Unlike Barack Obama, this individual opposes government spying and believes in absolute freedom of speech and the press, and as he puts it, “reduced government intrusion into our lives.” Clearly, with such a progressive vision, no one of the left would want to pass up the opportunity to support a candidate such as this for president! Surely it would be a vast improvement over Barack Obama, that Wall Street- friendly, imperialistic, war-monger, who promised to close Guantanamo but didn’t, among other unforgivable crimes. So by all means, let’s get behind someone who will close down the national security state, stand up for civil liberties, and stop handing out money to bankers. Ladies and Gentlemen of the left, I give you your perfect candidate for 2012: David Duke. Oh I’m sorry, did you think I was talking about someone else? Yeah, the guy takes his points and runs with them so far that I can't even see him, any more. (But then again, a lot of folks don't seem to mind that, at least when some people do it.) But I did think that there might be a little bit of a valid point, in with the spew and the mouth foaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Everyone has their good points,even David Duke(and he can even debate fairly well) It's their extras and bad points that make them unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CurseReversed Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 He had said that was the point of his running last election. This time, he's starting to look pretty strong, but he can't win. People are afraid of real change. Is it just the real change, or is it also the people who think he cant win because of the other people who think he cant win? You know, the "dumb" ones. ---------- Post added January-13th-2012 at 09:48 PM ---------- That's talking about the right being worried that he'll continue to run to the convention, splitting the party, and then run 3rd party which will hurt Romney.I actually think a Ron Paul 3rd party would be a net split for both Obama and Romney meaning they would both lose equal votes to him. I dont think she is representing the right wing with her comments. She is saying those things at the end of the clip from a personal perspective, a left wing perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sisko Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Everyone has their good points,even David Duke(and he can even debate fairly well)It's their extras and bad points that make them unacceptable. What's the difference between RP and David Duke? Duke will admit to his anti-Jewish positions. Schwing!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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