Schefter: Impatience spins the coaching carousel.

[Skinsfan4life83]

In a society that craves results now, in a world that demands excellence every day, head coaches rarely are allowed the time they need to grow into the job and master it. Reminders of it come every year at this time. Head coaches are fired, head coaches are hired and the coaching carousel spins without producing in the ways NFL owners had hoped. Every NFL owner who recently changed head coaches, or still is considering it, also needs to study his sport's history. Hall of Fame coach Tom Landry did not make the playoffs until his seventh season as a head coach and he didn't win his first NFL playoff game until his eighth season in Dallas. Today he would have been fired twice over. Hall of Fame coach Chuck Noll did not make the playoffs until his fourth season, after he had compiled a 12-30 record during his first three seasons in Pittsburgh. He never would have made it today. Hall of Fame coach Don Shula didn't win a playoff game until his sixth season as a head coach in Baltimore, and went 0-2 in the postseason during his first five seasons. He probably would have been fired before getting the chance to become Shula. The rare teams with continuity --New England, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Green Bay, New Orleans, Philadelphia and the New York Giants --are allowed to operate efficiently while taking advantage of competitors that are not. But the teams that give their head coaches time, patience and, of course, a quarterback are the ones that find themselves playing in this postseason. In today's world, everyone loves eating the turkey, but no one wants to wait around for it to cook. They'd rather microwave it. Unfortunately, it's not as tasty or savory, much like the seasons some of these unstable NFL franchises continually experience. Just last month, Dolphins owner Stephen Ross said he intends to hire a "young Don Shula." Doesn't every team. The problem is, few do. Or maybe they actually do, but don't take the time to find out.

Full article-http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/page/10spot-wildcard/impatient-owners-allow-coaches-develop--adam-schefter-10-spot

All the people thinking it should only take Shanny 2-3 years should read this.

[Epochalypse]

In a society that craves results now, in a world that demands excellence every day, head coaches rarely are allowed the time they need to grow into the job and master it. Reminders of it come every year at this time. Head coaches are fired, head coaches are hired and the coaching carousel spins without producing in the ways NFL owners had hoped. Every NFL owner who recently changed head coaches, or still is considering it, also needs to study his sport's history. Hall of Fame coach Tom Landry did not make the playoffs until his seventh season as a head coach and he didn't win his first NFL playoff game until his eighth season in Dallas. Today he would have been fired twice over. Hall of Fame coach Chuck Noll did not make the playoffs until his fourth season, after he had compiled a 12-30 record during his first three seasons in Pittsburgh. He never would have made it today. Hall of Fame coach Don Shula didn't win a playoff game until his sixth season as a head coach in Baltimore, and went 0-2 in the postseason during his first five seasons. He probably would have been fired before getting the chance to become Shula. The rare teams with continuity --New England, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Green Bay, New Orleans, Philadelphia and the New York Giants --are allowed to operate efficiently while taking advantage of competitors that are not. But the teams that give their head coaches time, patience and, of course, a quarterback are the ones that find themselves playing in this postseason. In today's world, everyone loves eating the turkey, but no one wants to wait around for it to cook. They'd rather microwave it. Unfortunately, it's not as tasty or savory, much like the seasons some of these unstable NFL franchises continually experience. Just last month, Dolphins owner Stephen Ross said he intends to hire a "young Don Shula." Doesn't every team. The problem is, few do. Or maybe they actually do, but don't take the time to find out.

Full article-http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/page/10spot-wildcard/impatient-owners-allow-coaches-develop--adam-schefter-10-spot

All the people thinking it should only take Shanny 2-3 years should read this.

There is so much to love in this.

[I Miss Taylor_21]

Well said-I do not understand why people are calling for Shanny so soon. Let him play out his contract and see where this goes.

[KingGibbs]

This is what the MAJORITY of us have been saying. Growing pains folks.

I emphasized majority because too many of you are insinuating that the majority are saying get rid of Shanny and that's not the case.

[I Miss Taylor_21]

This is what the MAJORITY of us have been saying. Growing pains folks.

I emphasized majority because too many of you are insinuating that the majority are saying get rid of Shanny and that's not the case.

Completely off topic-I do not tend to post a lot but instead just kick back and read what goes on around here and I always happen to come across your mancave picture and i never get a chance to say how awesome it is so from one skins fan to another, It is awesome!!!!

[WhoRUSupposed2Be]

I understand that it's going to take time but does the vast majority?

It's funny because it seems that many of the todays owners have contracted a case of Snyder Syndrome. Yet, you don't hear them being ridiculed for letting promising coaches go ie. Raheem Morris.

[deejaydana]

I would hope that the one thing Danny has taken away from his 10 years of losing is that you can't change coaches with the insane frequency that we have since he took over. Shanahan had the good sense to let him know he needs 5 years to turn the ship around and get us to winning. The best owners are masters in delegation. I like the progress we've shown so far under Shanny.

[SWFLSkins]

Have read and understand the terms of the above.

x_________________________

Daniel M. Snyder

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Impatient arm chair fan

[Skinsfan4life83]

This is what the MAJORITY of us have been saying. Growing pains folks.

I emphasized majority because too many of you are insinuating that the majority are saying get rid of Shanny and that's not the case.

I see that now. It's the Vocal Minority that overshadows the Silent Majority.

[The Slamming Butcher]

I see that now. It's the Vocal Minority that overshadows the Silent Majority.

In almost every aspect of life.

[RFKFedEx]

The key is being patient next year if we should happen to go 8-8. I don't think any HC today sees year four if he doesn't have at least one winning season under his belt. Amazing that Tom Landry was given six consecutive losing seasons before he finally got over the hump in year seven.

[wildbill1952]

What is also interesting is the number of people who will say, "See, so-and-so did it in his first year." citing some head coach who, in his first year, made it to the playoffs (See San Fran for one example.) Those same people fail to realize that often that wunderkind's success was largely based on the draft picks of his predecessor, who just wasn't allowed to stay long enough to see the fruits of the team he built.

Hopefully, Mr. Snyder will leave Shanahan and Allen here for a full 5 years.

[DavidGQ]

Have read and understand the terms of the above.

x_________________________

Daniel M. Snyder

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Impatient arm chair fan

Hahahahaha...funny. The stupid media around here doesn't help either. Negatives make news only. The days we start winning is the day Chad and Lavar start to cover WWE since they will run out of negative things to talk about.

Fans want Snyder to be patience but then call for Mike's head after 2 season. That is our biggest problem. I like the word "microwave"

[S.T.real,lights,out]

Have read and understand the terms of the above.

x_________________________

Daniel M. Snyder

x_________________________

Impatient arm chair fan

love it

[KingGibbs]

Completely off topic-I do not tend to post a lot but instead just kick back and read what goes on around here and I always happen to come across your mancave picture and i never get a chance to say how awesome it is so from one skins fan to another, It is awesome!!!!

Why thank you Miss Taylor.

[CommanderDOOM]

Why thank you Miss Taylor.

haha. Yes, great room......heres to u one day having worthy jerseys of guys on the current roster.

[acuratl1984]

Great article, and a deja vu of our last 10-12 years as a redskins fan. Some of you guys may hate that we have 2 losing seasons under the Shanahans/Allen. But you have to admit that there is progress, even when it's not shown on the record.

Due to the CBA the first season and no offseason this year. I want to say that Shanahan was some what handicapped in his process to "REBUILD" this team. + The trade for McNabb. I hope Snyder gives Shanny the 5 years he promised him, and immediately resign him once we start having winning seasons.

If we can land our QB this year, we will be playoff bound in 2013/2014. With the age of the QBs in our conference Eli/Vick/Romo sits to pee all being @ 31 years old. By 2014-2015 our young QB should be hitting his prime and ready to take our team to the top of the division yearly.

[skinnyskins]

Slow clap - Schefter for writing it and you for posting it.

[KingGibbs]

haha. Yes, great room......heres to u one day having worthy jerseys of guys on the current roster.

LMAO! That is the topic of conversation when people come over and see my shrine. One day I'll hang a current 'skin up there. One day.

[brettstr]

Good read.

That was my point in another thread. There is a difference in philosophy as well as age of time. When the teams mentioned, were doing poorly, there was not the revenue stream and need to get out front i.e. ESPN. Marketing dollars has become a great influence on the game. The game has evolved across the board. So as teams are assembled, Owners are focused on the product being presented. I am not saying owners did not care then, I am saying the bar was not as high then as it is now. The television markets alone have given a tremendous amount of the exposure to the game. Oversees ratings must be at an all time high as well. So the need to put a reasonably good product on the field is a must, with the fear of losing a significant amount of exposure which equates to dollars. Owners now are really trying get get all the fruit low bearing as well as the fruit from the trees. They must feel like the window of opportunity will close in on them fast. Look how long it took Tampa to get out of the basement

Hell, we cant even go to the stadium and get a reasonable priced beer.

Hail

[VinnyIsThatYou?]

I understand that it's going to take time but does the vast majority?

It's funny because it seems that many of the todays owners have contracted a case of Snyder Syndrome. Yet, you don't hear them being ridiculed for letting promising coaches go ie. Raheem Morris.

I hear you, but you also have to consider that Redskins are in a big market with a large fan base and will get more media attention when things go bad. People barely care about the Bucs in Tampa so it's not going to get as much media attention when bad moves are made.

[8181]

Horrible read

"The rare teams with continuity --New England, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Green Bay, New Orleans, Philadelphia and the New York Giants "

Check their records.

This article is arguing we should've kept Zorn for five more years.

If the Redskins improve to at least 8-8 next year, then I can see more patience. If he goes 6-10 or worse again, maybe even 7-9, then he deserves to have at least his FO duties relieved.

[hail2skins]

Better examples of current teams that have maintained head coach stability while not having the consistently good records of the teams that Schefter has mentioned are Houston, which has been pretty pedestrian in Kubiak's six years but who finally broke through this season (and probably would've challenged for the #1/2 seeds in the AFC if not for Schaub getting hurt) and Cincy and Chicago, which have interspersed some playoff seasons with some bad ones under the relatively long reigns of Marvin Lewis and Lovie Smith.

Its interesting to question whether Zorn would've been somewhat successful here if he had a more supportive front office. His firing was more because of being tied to Vinny than anything else. Of course, the weasel owner was only too proud to announce that he personally had called Joe Gibbs to talk up Zorn, but then when things went south denied that he was the one who picked Zorn. Typical Snyder.

And dovetailing from that, how much of Shanny's past record, including his rings in Denver, play a part in people calling for us to stay the course with him? Would us fans--or, more, importantly, the owner--be as patient if it were a lesser-known coordinator? I do think Shanny's past record has led to expectations in the media that lead to some in that field to tend to be less patient with him.

[Stophovr6]

I'll say one thing, this organization was very patient with Vinny Cerrato for a long time. I know he's no headcoach but he was part of the organization for a long time and things never got better, in fact they slowly deteriorated. Let's face it, the Zorn hiring and firing was more about Cerrato that it ever was about Zorn.

I'll support Shannallen until the end of Shanny's contract. I think they are on the right track.

[SWFLSkins]

Hahahahaha...funny. The stupid media around here doesn't help either. Negatives make news only. The days we start winning is the day Chad and Lavar start to cover WWE since they will run out of negative things to talk about.

Fans want Snyder to be patience but then call for Mike's head after 2 season. That is our biggest problem. I like the word "microwave"

love it

Thanks for getting it.

Horrible read

"The rare teams with continuity --New England, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Green Bay, New Orleans, Philadelphia and the New York Giants "

Check their records.

This article is arguing we should've kept Zorn for five more years.

If the Redskins improve to at least 8-8 next year, then I can see more patience. If he goes 6-10 or worse again, maybe even 7-9, then he deserves to have at least his FO duties relieved.

uh, not so much. He drafts again and FA's again like this past year, 8-8 will be underachieving. This team is on the up swing, sorry you don't correlate that with keeping Zorn around vs. Shannahan.