Riggo-toni Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Just some food for thought. I'm going by memory here, so feel free to correct me if a couple of the scrubs are in the wrong round. This includes both drafts and trades. Brad Johnson -1st,2nd,3rd Todd Husak - 6th Sage Rosenfels - 4th Pharoah Ramseys - 1st Danny Waffle - 7th (as I recall it was a conditional pick we had to give because the scrub DT we gave the Texans got cut) Gibran Hamdan - 7th Brunell - 3rd Jason Campbell - 1st,3rd,4th Jordan Palmer - 6th Colt Brennan - 7th McNabb -2nd and 4th (edited - thx) So... that's 3 #1s, 2 2nds, 3 3rds, 3 4ths, 2 6ths, and 2 or 3 7ths. And for all that, we got 1 good year out of BJ, and one adequate year from Scott Brunell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da#1skinsfan Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Seriously - every first round pick should be on a QB until we get Ryan/Rivers/Brees/Manning/Flacco/Stafford/Rothlisberger/etc etc. Can't win without a QB, period. With as much time we waste on bum free agents and busted draft picks, we may as well just do it year in year out until we find out who has "it" - none of the guys on that list ever had that "it" factor that you see with the top tier ready to go QB's, like the one's mentioned above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missouri_Skins_Fan Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Just some food for thought. I'm going by memory here, so feel free to correct me if a couple of the scrubs are in the wrong round. This includes both drafts and trades.Brad Johnson -1st,2nd,3rd Todd Husak - 6th Sage Rosenfels - 4th Pharoah Ramseys - 1st Danny Waffle - 7th (as I recall it was a conditional pick we had to give because the scrub DT we gave the Texans got cut) Gibran Hamdan - 7th Brunell - 3rd Jason Campbell - 1st,3rd,4th Jordan Palmer - 6th Colt Brennan - 7th McNabb -3rd So... that's 3 #1s, one 2nd, 4 3rds, 2 4ths, 2 6ths, and 2 or 3 7ths. And for all that, we got 1 good year out of BJ, and one adequate year from Scott Brunell. If that's what it took, to trade up for Luck or RG3 I would do that, before trading for Flynn and doing the same ole' damn thing! wash-rinse...repeat wash-rinse...repeat wash-rinse...repeat Hell..it's in our name Wash in gto n Redskins (Potatoes) repeat...repeat..repeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatorskin77 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 I thought it was a 2nd for McNabb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 I've been steaming about that 7th for Hamden for YEARS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightbird Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 This is just a tad worse when you consider two guys we passed over so we could draft busts/marginal players. In 2001, Drew Brees slid to the top of the 2nd round while we took Rod Gardner at 15 (we started Jeff George, Tony Banks, and Kent Graham the following year). In 2005, we took Carlos Rogers at 9 while Aaron Rodgers slid all the way to 24th (right in front of our 25th, where we took Jason Campbell). There's obviously some luck involved in drafting a true franchise qb (obviously, the whole league passed on brees in the 1st round), but my goodness, have we compounded our bad luck with just one awful decision after another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 I thought it was a 2nd for McNabb It was a 2nd and a conditional that turned out to be a 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 *Awaits first poster to claim that we actually gave up two 1st rounders for Jason Campbell... *Will then await first poster to change it to how we "essentially" gave up two 1st rounders for Jason Campbell... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veretax Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 didn't we give up more than a 3rd Rounder for McNabb anyways? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 didn't we give up more than a 3rd Rounder for McNabb anyways? For some reason I'm thinking it was a 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acuratl1984 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 For some reason I'm thinking it was a 2nd. It was a 2nd round pick + a conditional 3rd or 4th rounder (which I believe became a 4th rounder) the 3rd went to NO for Jammal Brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted January 3, 2012 Author Share Posted January 3, 2012 didn't we give up more than a 3rd Rounder for McNabb anyways? My mistake. Fixed. I'm also wondering if we gave Chicago a low round pick for Matthews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jflow78 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 If that's what it took, to trade up for Luck or RG3I would do that, before trading for Flynn and doing the same ole' damn thing! wash-rinse...repeat wash-rinse...repeat wash-rinse...repeat Hell..it's in our name Wash in gto n Redskins (Potatoes) repeat...repeat..repeat Trading up for Luck or Griffin is my first choice, but I'm starting to worry more now that it won't be possible. My biggest issue is that, what happens when we decide not to sign any FA QB, miss out on both the top 2 guys we want, and are stuck with leftovers in FA or picking Tannehill at #6? That sounds like a horrible situation to me. I agree I want to find our guy in the draft, but I'm also old enough to remember our history of drafting QBs is ******* awful. Our biggest success was Mark Rypien, and he was only healthy to start 2 full seasons. One he won a SB in, the other he had a 70 rating which was HORRID even then. Our other huge successes have been Jason Campbell and Gus Frerotte. Just because you're "wash rinse repeat" cycle only goes back 10 years doesn't mean that we haven't washed rinsed and repeated badly in the draft also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibbsfan2018 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 *Awaits first poster to claim that we actually gave up two 1st rounders for Jason Campbell...*Will then await first poster to change it to how we "essentially" gave up two 1st rounders for Jason Campbell... I thought we gave up two 1st for Campbell.... Now your day is half complete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jflow78 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 I've been steaming about that 7th for Hamden for YEARS. I thought he was a star in NFL Europe. We can pick 'em, just not in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.T.real,lights,out Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Damn, we gave up that much for Johnson?? Maybe its just me but i really liked him and was pretty upset when we let him go. Damn that feels like forever ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Colt Brennan - 7th Brennan was a 6th rounder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jflow78 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Damn, we gave up that much for Johnson?? Maybe its just me but i really liked him and was pretty upset when we let him go.Damn that feels like forever ago And that was before Snyder owned the team. Shocking huh? Anyway, out of our last 20 years, other than Rypien, Johnson was my favorite, if only because he tossed a Lions DE by the face mask during a playoff game. That was one of my favorite moments in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted January 3, 2012 Author Share Posted January 3, 2012 Brennan was a 6th rounder... Ok...wasn't sure. I remembered Palmer being a 6th, just wasn't sure about surfer dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenspandan Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 i don't have a problem with using a 6th rounder to take a flyer on a longshot QB. in fact, only a few of those picks are really questionable in the context in which they took place, without the benefit of retrospect. but jeez, the accumulated futility is monstrous. i think most of us are fed up with all the hoping to get lucky, trying to coach someone up, and trying to get by with average that has passed for QB policy in the last 20 years. it's time to get our blue-chip franchise quarterback for the next ten years. it's finally worth the price and risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Seriously - every first round pick should be on a QB until we get Ryan/Rivers/Brees/Manning/Flacco/Stafford/Rothlisberger/etc etc. Can't win without a QB, period. . But then there's Tebow... sorry, couldn't resist. i do agree with you. ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Gadsden Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 I thought we *essentially* gave up two 1st for Campbell.... Fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkRascadizzle Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Edit: nvm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayAction Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 And that was before Snyder owned the team. Shocking huh? Anyway, out of our last 20 years, other than Rypien, Johnson was my favorite, if only because he tossed a Lions DE by the face mask during a playoff game. That was one of my favorite moments in football. I don't recall Johnson costing that much but it's been so long that I can't dig up the details. Fans rip Johnson but Skins had their greatest offensive success (post Gibbs I) under him. Too bad Danny screwed that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibbsfan2018 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Fixed. Cool, now Califan007 day is complete. Thanks for the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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