jbooma Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 Clarett is going to sue the NFL. It was just announced on the radio. The NFL will not win the case but what they might do is find some way to sneak Clarett in the NFL without going to court. I hope this 3 year rule stays in affect or this could damage the NFL in the future. It will hurt college for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor The Invincible Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 What? No way Clarrett should be let into the NFL, no friggin way. KEEP HIM OUT, FIGHT WITH ALL YOUR MONEY! ...My own opinion... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thito_da_skins_fan Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 Clarett is a POS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted September 23, 2003 Author Share Posted September 23, 2003 Originally posted by Skeletor The Invincible What? No way Clarrett should be let into the NFL, no friggin way. KEEP HIM OUT, FIGHT WITH ALL YOUR MONEY! ...My own opinion... I agree but they know the NFL doesn't have a case at all. I am surprised this hasn't happened before. I hope they come to some agreement to keep everything the way it is. This will hurt the NFL and College football in the future. Look at what has happened to the NBA now because of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor The Invincible Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 What is Clarrett arguing again? Refresh me. The NFL has a rule that says no one can enter the draft until 3 years after their HS graduation, right? So what is Clarrett arguing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Om Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 And by the time the case wends its way to a verdict ... Clarett will be old enough to enter the NFL under the rules that exist now. I love irony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleSteve Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 I don't think he can win. There are job/experience requirements that he doesn't meet. The biggest factor will be his physical maturity. Just because you can play in the NBA at 18 doesn't mean you can play in the NFL. True, the age issue may be considered arbitrary by some. Anyway, it will all be strung out in court and he'll be 21 by the time it gets resolved and no team will draft him as high as he wants to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskin56 Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 He's arguing that the NFL is violating anti-trust laws. His argument is that football is his career and that one single entity (the NFL) cannot make rules that would keep him from working solely based on age or other possibly discriminatory reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 The NFL has a rule that says no one can enter the draft until 3 years after their HS graduation, right? So what is Clarrett arguing? Clarrett is arguing that that rule is not fair. He probably is going to win according to ESPN radio. But like Om said, probably not in time for he himself to benefit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor The Invincible Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 Of course it is fair. A business can set whatever kind of job requirements that it wants. (Or at least that is how it should be.) If Clarrett wins this battle, college football would be destroyed, and the NFL would be tarnished. HS kids in the NFL? ugh, it's too terrible to think about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleSteve Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 Originally posted by jbooma I agree but they know the NFL doesn't have a case at all. Why not? I think the NFL has a strong case. It's not air-tight, but every job has requirements and it's not the court's obligation to decide those requirements, only if they are discriminatory or arbitrary. The NFLPA will probably fight alongside the NFL in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 I don't think this would have the same impact that it does on the NBA. I think kids would still need to play college football for a couple years to develop. I mean, how many college freshmen have come in and been ready to play in the NFL. There is a different type of body-maturation process than for basketball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskin56 Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 The NFL doesn't stand a chance. The point here is that ONE solitary body, the NFL, has made restrictions that directly impact an individuals right to work. Its a clear anti-trust violation. The only pro sport that enjoys the anti-trust exemption is baseball. Congress passed the Curt Flood act to codify the case law giving baseball an anti-trust exemption. Baseball's exemption is based upon its unique nature of farm clubs and minor leagues. The NFL has noting akin to this and would not fall under the Curt Flood act. MC will win if he sues, how fast will this occurr? Different question. It could be tied up for a long time or he could win a summary judgment and be done in 6 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 clarett is really getting on my nerves. at first i felt bad for him thinking that he was getting railroaded out of school over some BS (still might be i have no idea). i don't see why he won't transfer to a DII or DI-A school where he could play right away. ohio state is trying to make this the embarassing as they can but this guy just won't give it up. he needs to find out a way to play either in canada or at another college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor The Invincible Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 Wouldn't the CFL or Arena league qualify as a "farm club, or minor leagues" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleSteve Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 Originally posted by redskin56 The NFL doesn't stand a chance. The point here is that ONE solitary body, the NFL, has made restrictions that directly impact an individuals right to work. Its a clear anti-trust violation. That may be the case. But the NFL was also clearly in anti-trust violations vs. the USFL. The USFL won the case but lost the war. Send this to a jury and the NFL will lose along the same lines they lost the USFL case and MC will not play until he's 21. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted September 23, 2003 Author Share Posted September 23, 2003 Originally posted by speedwagon20 I don't think this would have the same impact that it does on the NBA. I think kids would still need to play college football for a couple years to develop. I mean, how many college freshmen have come in and been ready to play in the NFL. There is a different type of body-maturation process than for basketball. Are you kidding this will kill college. The players will jump in a second for the money and GM's will look bad if they pass kids with potential. The problem is and everyone knows this is they wouldn't be able to play right away so in a since would be a wasted roster spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleSteve Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 Originally posted by jbooma Are you kidding this will kill college. The players will jump in a second for the money and GM's will look bad if they pass kids with potential. The problem is and everyone knows this is they wouldn't be able to play right away so in a since would be a wasted roster spot. Thus, the NFL can't lose. HS kids are not qualified mentally or physically for the NFL. They lack the experience and physical maturity necessary to survive (literally). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskin56 Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 Wouldn't the CFL or Arena league qualify as a "farm club, or minor leagues" ? No, because they are not directly affiliated with the NFL. Minor League Baseball is subject to all the rules and regulations of Major League Baseball and the parent Major Legue teams own the rights to their farm club players while they are in the minors. That's the distinction. Everything that goes on in the minors is subject to MLB supervision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 I agree Blazers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted September 23, 2003 Author Share Posted September 23, 2003 Originally posted by Blazers21 That may be the case. But the NFL was also clearly in anti-trust violations vs. the USFL. The USFL won the case but lost the war. Send this to a jury and the NFL will lose along the same lines they lost the USFL case and MC will not play until he's 21. Blazers that was a different situation. The NFL knows they will lose this case so they are going to try to find a way to sneak MC in. If an 18 year old can get employment anywhere except the NFL it is in way breaking the law. The only thing the NFL is just dragging it out but one day some smart kid who is junior in HS right now could sue and by the time the case was over he would be in the NFL. You can set a certain critiria for jobs but those can't be race or age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor The Invincible Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 Yeah, but Clarrett would still be paid, and thus would have a "job". It's not like the NFL is the only league out there to make money in. Its just another corporation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskin56 Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 The NFL may be only another corporation, but the reality is that the payscale in the NFL is vastly different than any other professional football league. Therefore, the NFL cannot set restrictions based upon age because if the player is good enough to play in the NFL and the only thing keeping him out is a self imposed restriction by the NFL, it will be struck down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted September 23, 2003 Author Share Posted September 23, 2003 Originally posted by Blazers21 Thus, the NFL can't lose. HS kids are not qualified mentally or physically for the NFL. They lack the experience and physical maturity necessary to survive (literally). That doesn't matter a corporation can not base employment on race or age that is a major violation. The NFL is well aware of this, they are surprised no one has tried to fight it before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted September 23, 2003 Share Posted September 23, 2003 56, can the NFL set restrictions based upon speed or size or simple evaluations as to whether a person is good enough to play in the NFL? Of course. The NFL rejects people who want to play in the NFL all the time. I want to play in the NFL, but they won't let me. Something about not being good enough. Are they infringing upon my right to work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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