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http://www.nknews.org/2012/10/kim-jong-ils-grandson-is-living-with-a-libyan-revolutionary/

Kim Jong Il’s Grandson is Living With a Libyan Revolutionary

The teenage grandson of late North Korean dictator Kim Jong Il has revealed how he longed for the grandfather he never met ‘to come and find me’, and has spoken out against his uncle, current leader Kim Jong Un, referring to him as a ‘dictator’, in a rare interview that shines new light on familial relations and tensions within the secretive Kim dynasty.

In the surprising exchange with Elisabeth Rehn (via NK Econwatch), a former Finnish Defence Minister, filmed at the United World College in Bosnia where he is studying, Kim Han Sol reveals he is living with a young Libyan scholar who supported the Tripoli revolution and overthrow of Gaddafi; tacitly acknowledges North Korea’s awful hunger problems, and reflects on his own experiences as a member of the Kim dynasty living in exile.

Despite his close ties to North Korea and its regime, Han Sol’s appearance is more in line with the fashion and tastes of South Korea, and he expresses a liberal world outlook that directly contradicts those that were held by his autocratic grandfather. He admits growing up with American and South Korean students in Macau initially posed a problem for him, but that over time they “turned out to be really great friends”, which “sparked the curiosity for me to go further.”

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North Korea says will fire on South if leaflets dropped

North Korea issued its most strident warning in months on Friday when it threatened to open fire on South Korean territory if anti-Pyongyang leaflets were sent over from South Korean territory.

It said that if leaflets were dropped on Monday a "merciless military strike by the Western Front will be put into practice without warning", according to state news agency KCNA.

It said it would target a tourist area in the border city of Paju a few miles from the demilitarised zone that separates the two countries if the launch went ahead.

A coalition of non-government groups said it would go ahead with plans to drop anti-North Korea leaflets on Monday at 11:30 a.m. (0230 GMT) as part of their campaign against Pyongyang.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/19/korea-north-idUSL3E8LJ25H20121019

UPDATE 2-North Korea threatens to fire on South if propaganda balloons launched

"We had similar threats last year and they did not stop us before and this is not going to stop us this time," said Pak Sang-hak, a North Korean exile who defected to the South 12 years ago.

He is the leader of a coalition of groups of North Korean exiles and human rights activists who plan to launch giant balloons containing 200,000 leaflets criticising North Korea's government for the second year running.

Some of the leaflets, printed on plastic bags, will contain $1 bills. As well as the dollars, the bags themselves are said to be prized by North Koreans, many of whom often lack daily necessities.

South Korea's defence minister told parliament that its military would retaliate in the event of any attack.

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South Korean Activists Send Leaflets to NKorea

South Korean activists floated balloons carrying tens of thousands of anti-Pyongyang leaflets into North Korea on Monday, eluding police who had disrupted an earlier launch attempt due to threats from North Korea.

North Korea's military warned last week that it would strike if the South Korean activists carried through with their plan to fly balloons carrying the propaganda leaflets across the border. South Korea pledged to retaliate if it was attacked.

South Korean police, citing security concerns, had sent hundreds of officers Monday to seal off roads and prevent the activists and other people from gathering at an announced launch site near the border. Residents in the area were also asked to evacuate to underground facilities, according to local official Kim Jin-a.

Later in the day, some of the activists, mostly North Korean defectors, moved to another site near the border that was not guarded by police and carried out the launch of the balloons. South Korea's Defense Ministry said it was closely monitoring North Korea's military movements but there were no suspicious activities.

Before taking action Monday, the South Korean government had implored activists to stop their campaign, but had cited freedom of speech in not making further attempts to intervene.

South Korean activists have in the past sent leaflets across the border, and North Korea has issued similar threats to attack without following through. But Seoul's Yonhap news agency reported Monday that the ban on entering the border area was imposed as South Korea detected that North Korea had uncovered artillery muzzle covers and deployed troops to artillery positions in possible preparation for an attack. Yonhap cited no source for the information.

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http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/11/23/kim_jong_uns_baby_mama

Kim Jong Un's Baby Mama

In July, when North Korea's state media identified Ri Jol Su as the wife of the country's supreme leader Kim Jong Un, reporting the couple's visit to an amusement park, the contrast with his father, Kim Jong Il, could not have been starker. State media reports and official accounts of the elder Kim's activities and behavior never mentioned any of his four (or five) wives or seven children.

In fact, North Korea's new leader seems to be putting some distance between himself and his father. By allowing the country's state media to report on his marital status and identify Ri by name, Kim Jong Un has aligned himself more closely to his paternal grandfather, North Korean founding father and president Kim Il Sung, whose first wife Kim Jong Suk is a venerated figure in North Korea's political culture. State propaganda rarely, if ever, explicitly identifies Kim Jong Un as Kim Jong Il's son; documentary films, essays, and editorials refer instead only to "bloodline" and "revolutionary family."

That bloodline has become all the more significant in recent weeks, as it has emerged that North Korea's first lady might be pregnant. On Oct. 29, 2012, Madame Ri made her first reported public appearance with her husband in almost two months, attending a concert and a soccer match. (A source with personal ties to the Kim family ascribed Kim Jong Un's 20-day gap in public appearances in June to "wanting children.") In the images and video footage of the events published by North Korean state media, Ri wears a long, loose jumper and her face is swollen. Neither still images nor film footage reveals her full figure. All the imagery of her standing is taken from a distance (or without zoom), and there are no close shots of her standing next to her husband; she instead walks directly behind Kim to avoid the camera lenses.

If Kim Jong Un and Ri Sol Ju hosted a baby shower, the two likeliest attendees would be Kim's older brother, Kim Jong Chol, and his younger sister, Kim Yo Jong, both of whom work as their brother's aides. Many analysts expected Kim Jong Chol, a sensitive and creative man, to succeed Kim Jong Il. (Kim Jong Chol still seems to be in favor; but he was last seen in February 2011 at an Eric Clapton concert in Singapore and attended his father's funeral.) We know little about Kim Jong Un's sister other than that she went to a neighboring school in Switzerland; at one visit to Kim Jong Il's funerary bier in December 2011, North Korean state media twice showed Kim Yo Jong leading a group of senior officials in bowing to the leader's remains.
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http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/north-korea-vows-test-long-range-rocket-17844297#.ULnAdjMucqg

North Korea Vows to Test Long-Range Rocket Soon

North Korea said Saturday it will launch a long-range rocket between Dec. 10 and Dec. 22, a move likely to heighten already strained tensions with Washington and Seoul ahead of a South Korean presidential election on Dec. 19.

This would be North Korea's second launch attempt under leader Kim Jong Un, who took power following his father Kim Jong Il's death nearly a year ago. The announcement comes several weeks after President Barack Obama was elected to a second term in the United States and ahead of his January inauguration.

Washington considers North Korea's rocket tests to be veiled covers for tests of long-range missile technology banned by the United Nations.

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Saw a story on 60 minutes last Sunday about a political prisoner camp in NK called "Camp 14"

Some guy was born in the camp which sentences you to "Three generations of prison"

His father was imprisoned because his brothers ran off so his entire family was sent to that prison

Eventually escaped but can you imagine being born and raised in a prison to work menial labor for your entire life

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Saw a story on 60 minutes last Sunday about a political prisoner camp in NK called "Camp 14"

Some guy was born in the camp which sentences you to "Three generations of prison"

His father was imprisoned because his brothers ran off so his entire family was sent to that prison

Eventually escaped but can you imagine being born and raised in a prison to work menial labor for your entire life

My wife just bought that book last week. We also saw that interview on 60 minutes.

If I'm not mistaken, I think he sold his family out and got them locked up. Years later he feels guilty about it.

Edit:

He got his mom and brother executed by snitching on them.

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I know we use this thread as a joke or whatever.....but when is enough going to be enough? Sick and tired of these idiots.

Everyone is sick of them, but what can you do? Make a military move against them and 500,000 people in Seoul would die in the next day. They can't defeat us, but they have hostages.

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http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/12/07/15749172-us-sends-warships-as-north-korea-prepares-rocket-launch?lite

US sends warships as North Korea prepares rocket launch

The United States is shifting four warships into position to track and possibly defend against a planned North Korean rocket launch, while urging Pyongyang to cancel its second such attempt this year, officials told NBC News.

The Aegis guided-missile cruiser Shiloh and three guided-missile destroyers John S. McCain, Benfold and Fitzgerald will be put in place as a "prudent precaution," officials told NBC News.

The Navy ships' guided missile will attempt to intercept and destroy the North Korean missile if it veers off course and threatens either Japan or the Philippines.

The North Koreans have announced they will attempt to "put a satellite into orbit" atop a ballistic missile sometime between Dec. 10 and Dec. 22.

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They fired it.

https://twitter.com/mpoppel

FLASH: NORTH KOREA FIRES LONG-RANGE ROCKET, YONHAP REPORTS http://dlvr.it/2cyZgC

8:11 PM

https://twitter.com/BreakingNews

More: Japanese government says North Korea launched missile headed south, passed over Okinawa - @Reuters

8:08 PM

https://twitter.com/Reuters

North Korea missile likely to fall in Pacific Ocean about 300 kilometers east of the Philippines - NHK

8:10 PM

https://twitter.com/mpoppel

REU: S.KOREA PRESIDENT LEE MYUNG-BAK CALLS EMERGENCY SECURITY MEETING - YONHAP

8:16 PM

Kyodo: Japan to convene Security Council meeting at 10:50 a.m. on N. Korea rocket

8:20 PM

BREAKING NEWS -- JAPAN SAYS N. KOREAN ROCKET FELL INTO WATERS OFF PHILIPPINES, YONHAP REPORTS

8:22 PM

REU: North Korea missile fragments seem to have fallen on ocean west of the Korean peninsula - NHK

8:24 PM

https://twitter.com/anguswalkeritv

US had warned response a rocket launch would be"swift and credible"

8:26 PM

Hmmm.

https://twitter.com/mpoppel

Kyodo: N. Korea rocket believed to have gone down off Philippines at 10:05 a.m.; Japan

8:28 PM

Kyodo: Japan gov't says part of N. Korea rocket believed to have fallen into Yellow Sea

8:28 PM

Kyodo: No N. Korea rocket debris falls on Japan territory, Japanese gov't says

8:28 PM

Kyodo: N. Korea rocket launch "unacceptable": Japan gov't spokesman

8:33 PM

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My wife just bought that book last week. We also saw that interview on 60 minutes.

If I'm not mistaken, I think he sold his family out and got them locked up. Years later he feels guilty about it.

Edit:

He got his mom and brother executed by snitching on them.

The book was featured prominently on 60 minutes. It really makes you think, the feature they did. I did some more research on the camps after 60 minutes, on Wikipedia. It really is terrifying.

I've thought about getting the book.

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Why are they shooting rockets?

According to them to put up a sattelite.

According to others, to test long range ballistic missle capability.

Reportedly this one went farther than the launch in April.

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Thanks. Hmm, shooting rockets to put up a satellite. Shouldn't they be shooting them up then? Like towards space? And what do they want this satellite to do?

I don't know why they would want to start beef with anyone. Why they gotta be so belligerent?

I don't really expect people to answer all those questions just thinking aloud.

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https://twitter.com/W7VOA

Kyodo: Japan to request UN Security Council be convened following DPRK launch in defiance of resolutions.

8:56 PM

https://twitter.com/natlsecuritycnn

US was surprised NorthKorea launched today. It was not expected, Sr. US official tells @eliselabottcnn

9:12 PM

While better than April, NorthKorea rocket launch not total success if 3rd stage did not stay in orbit, observes @UCSUSA David Wright.

9:14 PM

US official tells @BarbaraStarrCNN that NorthKorea has launched what appears to be a 3-stage rocket that flew expected trajectory

9:16 PM

Um....

https://twitter.com/Reuters

NORTH KOREA CONFIRMS SATELLITE SUCCESSFULLY ENTERED ORBIT - YONHAP

9:23 PM

https://twitter.com/mpoppel

BNO: North Korea says it successfully launched a long-range rocket and placed a Bright Star-3 weather satellite into orbit.

9:27 PM

https://twitter.com/mpoppel

BREAKING -- BNO: Britain summons North Korea's Ambassador to the UK following rocket launch

9:07 PM

REU: U.S. STATE DEPT SAYS U.S. HAS "NOTED" N.KOREA ROCKET LAUNCH AND IS MONITORING SITUATION

9:41 PM

Swift and credible...I suppose.

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