WSHRedskins3ATLBraves3 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Until the DEA says otherwise, it's an illegal drug. FD and TW I'm sure were aware of that. I never was much of a pill-popping dope freak and perhaps that is what influences my stance on the issue. Not saying it should or should not be illegal, but at least acknowedging that it is. I did say "jail," not prison. If they disagree with the law, they should get it changed, but until then they knowingly violated the law. I'm also not a "pill popping dope freak". Rotting in jail just seemed way too extreme to me. To each his own I guess.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat~man Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 We'll re-sign him. I don't feel good that 2 of our best, young players are obviously really stupid. repeat offenders? Are you freakin serious? Trent is in his second year and he is already a "repeat" offender? Good god.. Everyone has their own opinion but the fact of the matter is, you shouldn't be doing it if you value your career and the millions of dollars you're going to make. Yes they're young but that's no excuse, everyone in the NFL was young at one point. I'm just glad this year is garbage otherwise I'd be really upset. If I fail a drug test at my job then I'm terminated... these guys better realize how lucky they are and grow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn12 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 I think they resign him. He's become the "go-to" guy when you need a big play. All we need is for a WR to step up and more consistency on the line and a new QB will have fun behind center (especially with Helu in the backfield). I definitely say they should offer him the money he is worth as if he didnt smoke weed, but have some sort of safety net if he gets suspended because he's an idiot. It's one thing to owe a guy money who gets hurt, but if he gets suspended again for weed, he should be somehow financially hit in the butt. Not only lose money for the games he misses, but owe an added penalty. And it should also be a trigger so that the Skins can opt out of his contract. Essentially, If he's an idiot, they can elect to cut him at no penalty. Maybe that's a dream world scenario, but you get the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slateman Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Unless he comes in at an incredibly cap friendly figure, I hope not. Finley is a free agent too. He will most likely be coming off his second super bowl victory and be looking for a big pay day. Much rather give the money to someone who isn't a positive drug test away from a 16 game suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSHRedskins3ATLBraves3 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Unless he comes in at an incredibly cap friendly figure, I hope not. Finley is a free agent too. He will most likely be coming off his second super bowl victory and be looking for a big pay day. Much rather give the money to someone who isn't a positive drug test away from a 16 game suspension. Davis has more catches and yards, and Rex Grossman is his QB. Not to mention, he'll be cheaper and he's homegrown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slateman Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 He will only be cheaper because he's a drug pop away from a 16 game suspension. And he has more catches and.yards because Rodgers has 4 other receivers who are good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 We'll re-sign him, but the dumbass just smoked himself out of money. Hope that $35 bag of pot was worth the millions he just gave up. Hope it didn't have any stems in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Bruce Allen just saved his ass from a year to 4 games. Fred owes Bruce one now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busch1724 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 I hope we don't. He's one test away from a year off. He's played well in a contract year, but knowing it's a contract year couldn't not smoke dope. That tells me everything you need to know about the guy's character. He let himself down, the fans down, but most importantly his teammates down. He also is not a great pass blocker. He also will probably demand a contract that pays him like a leader and he is not a leader. You don't give guys like him big money, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
authentic Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Bruce Allen just saved his ass from a year to 4 games. Fred owes Bruce one now. which probably means that they re-sign him at less $$ than his agent was asking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champskins Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 I hope we don't. He's one test away from a year off. He's played well in a contract year, but knowing it's a contract year couldn't not smoke dope. That tells me everything you need to know about the guy's character. He let himself down, the fans down, but most importantly his teammates down. He also is not a great pass blocker. He also will probably demand a contract that pays him like a leader and he is not a leader. You don't give guys like him big money, sorry. nothing against you, personally, but I've hung with Davis a few times... he's actually a good, humbled guy. I know the doping doesn't help or make it seem like it but he's real chill and down to earth, doesn't carry a big crowd with him. He's an asset to this team. Yea, it sucks and he should have known better but Freddy D. is a chill guy and overall has good character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
authentic Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 I hope we don't. He's one test away from a year off. He's played well in a contract year, but knowing it's a contract year couldn't not smoke dope. That tells me everything you need to know about the guy's character. He let himself down, the fans down, but most importantly his teammates down. He also is not a great pass blocker. He also will probably demand a contract that pays him like a leader and he is not a leader. You don't give guys like him big money, sorry. I still say we re-sign him. The dude is too talented and young. If we let him walk, a team like Carolina picks him up, he ends up in the probowl, and we're crying our eyes out in regret. Nope, i'm sure Freddie, Shanny, and Bruce will have a "meeting of the minds" to hash all of this out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HapHaszard Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 A CSN article by Rich Tandler about what Shanny has done in the past is posted in the Breaking News Section..... CSN TRR - Shanahan has experience with suspensions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botched Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 He fails drug tests, dances like an idiot, and get unsportsmanlike conduct penalties, but he's a damn good player. Sign him and make sure to put some sort of "can't be a dumbass" clause in the contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKM311 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 nothing against you, personally, but I've hung with Davis a few times... he's actually a good, humbled guy. I know the doping doesn't help or make it seem like it but he's real chill and down to earth, doesn't carry a big crowd with him. He's an asset to this team. Yea, it sucks and he should have known better but Freddy D. is a chill guy and overall has good character. Correct as I have met him a few times. Problem is he is really immature. People need to understand what maturity means and what bad character means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Master III Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 We may have to use a franchise tag for Landry and a transition tag for Davis if that is even possible. Can't let either walk IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregpeck99 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 I would re-sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLusby Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Three time loser with THC in his body! I would trade Williams and Davis and try and pick up a 1st for Williams and a 2nd rounder for Davis. There are a lot of athletic TE's coming out and Cooley will be back next year. We need a QB, LT, RT, G, S, CB, and another TE. The risk now is that they will have a one year suspension if caught again. It is not worth the risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskins4ever Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Davis was the one positive talent on the offense this year, but I can see Shanahan re-signing him. But then again I wouldn't be surprised if Davis is a free agent by March 3, 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLusby Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 I would sign him cheap...which we can do...and then trade him for a 2nd and possibly an additional 3rd in 2013! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enter Apotheosis Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Three time loser with THC in his body! I would trade Williams and Davis and try and pick up a 1st for Williams and a 2nd rounder for Davis. There are a lot of athletic TE's coming out and Cooley will be back next year. We need a QB, LT, RT, G, S, CB, and another TE. The risk now is that they will have a one year suspension if caught again. It is not worth the risk. This isn't Madden, man. We would not get anywhere near enough in return to make trading them worth it, not to mention that it's already too late to trade Davis. Any time you try to unload a player due to character issues his value on the trading block tends to plummet (see: Santonio Holmes going to NY for a 5th round pick). We'd do better to just assume the risk and hope these guys learn their lesson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champskins Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Three time loser with THC in his body! I would trade Williams and Davis and try and pick up a 1st for Williams and a 2nd rounder for Davis. There are a lot of athletic TE's coming out and Cooley will be back next year. We need a QB, LT, RT, G, S, CB, and another TE. The risk now is that they will have a one year suspension if caught again. It is not worth the risk. Get rid of our two top offensive and young talents and start all over... brilliant! SMH... Might want to dump Landry too then, cus Im sure he's going to be caught for HGH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSHRedskins3ATLBraves3 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Three time loser with THC in his body! I would trade Williams and Davis and try and pick up a 1st for Williams and a 2nd rounder for Davis. There are a lot of athletic TE's coming out and Cooley will be back next year. We need a QB, LT, RT, G, S, CB, and another TE. The risk now is that they will have a one year suspension if caught again. It is not worth the risk. Is this a joke? You think these two, who are about to receive a lot of bad press and you admittedly don't even want on your team, are worth a first and second round pick respectively? They're two cornerstones on offense that are more valuable to us than any other team. There is no point in trading them. It's not even possible to trade Davis. The trade deadline is passed, and he is about to be a free agent. Shanny will get them in line, and they won't fail another test. You can't let either of them go. EDIT: And a sign-and-trade is not realistic either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busch1724 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 nothing against you, personally, but I've hung with Davis a few times... he's actually a good, humbled guy. I know the doping doesn't help or make it seem like it but he's real chill and down to earth, doesn't carry a big crowd with him. He's an asset to this team. Yea, it sucks and he should have known better but Freddy D. is a chill guy and overall has good character. I see your point, but he let a lot of people down and hopefully he's not a leader on this team until he matures. ---------- Post added December-6th-2011 at 01:27 PM ---------- I still say we re-sign him. The dude is too talented and young. If we let him walk, a team like Carolina picks him up, he ends up in the probowl, and we're crying our eyes out in regret. Nope, i'm sure Freddie, Shanny, and Bruce will have a "meeting of the minds" to hash all of this out. I think we will too, since this league is really turning into a two-stud tight end league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAfan47 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Yes!!!!!... Next question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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