NoLeafClover Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 ES Coverage: 2011 Redskins vs 49ers 11/06/11 DEFEAT. 49ers 19 - Redskins 11 :helmet: Hello everyone and welcome. I am your host, Joel, joined, as always, by murf. We are coming to you live from FedEx Field, where the Washington Redskins will be taking on the San Fransisco 49ers. After two disappointing games on the road (including last week's debacle, which I suggested that we'd all be best to pretend never happened in my post-game analysis) the Redskins look to capitalize on home field advantage and rebound from a three game losing streak. However, they must do it with an unproven quarterback who is now 0-6 as a starter. And they must do it with an offense that is severely depleted due to injury. Not to mention the fact that they are taking on a 49ers defense that is ranked in the top 10 overall in the league (and is ranked number one in points and rushing yards allowed). On the surface, there isn't much reason to be optimistic. But in today's NFL, it truly does come down to "any given Sunday" (just ask the Saints). The Redskins have a history of winning games everyone has counted them out of. And historically, West Coast teams traveling to the East Coast have struggled to adjust to the climate and to the earlier game time. So you shouldn't count the Redskins out of this one just yet. If the Redskins offense can get something - anything - going early on, I think the Redskins D will be able to keep the 49ers at bay and the 'Skins will have a shot at winning this one. Will that happen? Who knows? But, at the very least, I'm telling you there's a chance. :helmet: INACTIVES Redskins inactives: WR Donte Stallworth S Oshiomogho Atogwe RB Tashard Choice LB Markus White OT Willie Smith WR Santana Moss DT Darion Scott 49ers inactives: QB Scott Tolzien WR Brett Swain CB Shawntae Spencer FB Moran Norris OG Daniel Kilgore OG Mike Person DT Ray McDonald :helmet: 12:23 PM - On the bright side, today is the Redskins "homecoming" game, with a lot of former players here. Murf and I got a chance to head down and talk to a few of the alumni, which was definitely a highlight of this gig for me. Ah, the glory days. 12:25 PM - Fred Davis looks loose and full of energy warming up out on the field right now. That's definitely a good sign. 12:43 PM - This is the 25th time these two teams have met. The 49ers are 14-9-1 against the Redskins. 12:44 PM - The Redskins alum are being introduced right now and making their way out of the giant inflatable helmet. 12:53 PM - While Graham Gano and Sav Rocca snuck out the side, Nick Sundberg just ran through the inflatable helmet and threw his arms up in the air triumphantly. Highly amusing. 1:04 PM - Roy Helu gets 16 yards on his first carry. I guess he was fired up to get the start. 1:06 PM - Two yards on Helu's second carry. Not as impressive, but that's still an average of nine yards per carry. 1:10 PM - Frank Gore only gains 12 yards his first carry. Advantage Helu. 1:15 PM - Ryan Kerrigan just lit up Alex Smith on third down to end the 49ers drive. That got the crowd fired up. 1:35 PM - Right now the Redskins biggest weapon on offense is the 49ers defense, who keeps getting flagged for dumb penalties. 1:35 PM - John Beck with a dumb interception. Do a shot. END OF FIRST QUARTER 0-0 1:43 PM - After three attempts, the 49ers have yet to convert on a third down. (Though don't get too excited - neither have the Redskins.) 1:45 PM - David Akers connects on a 52-yard field goal, giving the 49ers three points off of Beck's interception. The drive last six plays, 22 yards and two minutes and 42 seconds. 0-3 1:55 PM - Justin Smith did a good job selling the penalty against Trent Williams by falling onto the ground after contact. But still, that was a really stupid penalty by Williams. 2:01 PM - Make that 0-4 on third downs for San Francisco. 2:15 PM - 0-5 on third down conversions now for the 49ers. They settle for a 34-yard field goal from Akers to increase their lead to six. The drive goes six plays, 39 yards, two minutes and 23 seconds. 0-6 2:21 PM - Helu with what may end up being a really costly fumble, giving the 49ers the ball at the Redskins 30. 2:22 PM - Very next play, Bruce Miller catches an easy touchdown pass to increase San Francisco's lead. One play, 30 yards, six seconds. Not the way you want to go into halftime, certainly. 0-13 2:25 PM - The Redskins are suffering from a severe case of "the dropsies" today. 2:27 PM - Niles Paul has a toe injury. His return is questionable. 2:29 PM - Graham Gano connects on a 59-yard field goal to end the half. Didn't see that coming. That is the longest field goal in Redskins history. Seven plays, 32 yards, one minute and three seconds. 3-13 HALFTIME 3-13 2:50 PM - After one half, John Beck has a formidable 40.8 passer rating. 3:01 PM - Brian Orakpo comes up with a big sack on third down to bail out the Redskins defense. David Akers follows that up with a 45-yard field goal. Nine plays, 35 yards, four minutes and 48 seconds off the clock. 3-16 3:08 PM - I'm starting to think this John Beck character isn't very good at quarterback. 3:10 PM - Roy Helu makes something out of nothing by grabbing a tipped ball and taking it 17-yards. Good heads up play by the rookie there. 3:12 PM - The crowd is getting quite vocal against the offense. I'm pretty sure they aren't chanting "Helu" right now. END OF THIRD QUARTER 3-16 3:17 PM - Redskins go for it on fourth down and fail to convert. Not sure why they didn't just kick a field goal - they were across the 50, so clearly they were in Gano's range. 3:31 PM - Today's announced attendance is 78,032. I wonder how many of those fans are regretting their decision to come out to this one. 3:34 PM - Kedric Golston has an elbow injury. His return is questionable. 3:35 PM - David Akers connects with a 20-yard field goal. The 49ers have to settle for three on the drive, even after Alex Smith's devastating 24-yard pass to Braylon Edwards. 10 plays, 64 yards, six minutes and 30 seconds. 3-19 3:41 PM - Another terrible fumble by the Redskins, this one by Terrence Austin on the Redskins 36-yard-line. That sends a ton of fans toward the exits. 3:44 PM - The defense gets the ball back. DeAngelo Hall forces a fumble, which LaRon Landry recovers. That's one way to move the ball down the field. 4:00 PM - Roy Helu broke Art Monk's single-game receiving record with 14 catches in today's game. 4:02 PM - John Beck connects with nine-yard touchdown pass to Jabar Gaffney to give the Redskins a moral victory. Then they convert the two-point conversion, bringing this one to within seven and giving the 'Skins a slim chance to tie this one up. 11 plays, 72 yards, two minutes and 56 seconds off the clock. 11-19 4:03 PM - Vernon Davis recovers the kick. That's the ball game, folks. :helmet: PHOTOS To see ExtremeSkins game photos click HERE :helmet: AUDIO To listen to comments from Lorenzo Alexander click HERE To listen to comments from Barry Cofield click HERE To listen to comments from Fred Davis click HERE To listen to comments from Graham Gano click HERE To listen to comments from Roy Helu click HERE To listen to more comments from Roy Helu click HERE To listen to comments from Ryan Kerrigan click HERE To listen to comments from Brian Orakpo click HERE To listen to comments from Nick Sundberg click HERE :helmet: THE NEW GUY'S TAKE It was a historic day here at FedEx Field. Graham Gano set the franchise record for longest field goal, sending a 59-yarder through the uprights to give the Redskins their first points of the day. And rookie running back Roy Helu, in his first NFL start, set the Redskins record for most catches in a single game, hauling in 14 passes and beating a receiving record previously held by Art Monk. Add to that the fact that this was billed as the Redskins “homecoming” game, with a variety of Redskin alumni on hand to watch the game, and this was quite a memorable day. Unfortunately, absolutely nothing the Washington Redskins did on the field today is worth remembering. While Gano and Helu’s records will undoubtedly make fine bit of bar trivia somewhere down the line, the rest of this game is best forgotten altogether. The best thing you can say about the on-field play is that at least the Redskins were able to put points on the board. After getting shutout in Toronto, the Redskins were able to score, though sadly their offense wasn’t potent enough to defeat a team that their defense held to just 19 points. The Redskins had Gano’s record-setting field goal and a garbage time touchdown pass from John Beck to rack up an abysmal 11 points. But hey, 11 is better than nothing. John Beck continues to be winless as a starter. At the end of the first half, Beck had only completed 10 of his 20 pass attempts for a total of 86 yards. He also had an interception, giving him a horrendous 40.8 passer rating. Thanks in large part to that final drive, Beck ended the day with slightly better stats, but he still only managed to go 30 for 47 for 254 yards with one touchdown and one interception, for a passer rating of 76.0. At this point, I honestly have no clue why Mike Shanahan doesn’t go back to Rex Grossman. Grossman at least managed to put points on the board and to win football games, which are both things Beck seems incapable of. John Beck isn’t a rookie that just needs some more NFL experience to find his groove. He’s 30 years old. If he hasn’t turned into a great pro quarterback by now, it’s highly unlikely he’s ever going to. This is the best you get with Beck. He is what we thought he was. Now bench him and give the job back to Grossman so you can try to scrounge up some wins in your final eight games. Not that wins will be easy to come by. Even next week’s game against the Miami Dolphins is far from a lock at this point. The Dolphins, winless going into this week’s game, beatdown the 4-4 Kansas City Chiefs 31-3. So clearly the Dolphins are fired up right now. And the Redskins are traveling to Miami for that game. With the way the offense is playing, there’s no reason to be confident that the ‘Skins will walk away with a W in that game. Oddly enough, it was Beck himself who summed up my thoughts on the team right now, as they continue to spiral downward after a four game losing streak. In his post-game press conference, Beck said: “We have too many good players on this team, we have good character, we have guys that believe. Losing like this shouldn’t happen and I don’t want it to happen any longer.” Unfortunately for Beck, I think he’s a big part of the reason why the offense looks stagnant right now. The offensive line was as healthy as it’s been all year and they gave him protection, but he still couldn’t get it done out there. Yes, guys dropped passes out there and missed opportunities, but I still think a lot of this loss rests on Beck’s shoulders. You can look at Roy Helu’s 14 receptions as a cool little accomplishment. Or you can see it as John Beck zeroing in on one target and continuing to throw to him all game. Helu shouldn’t be getting thrown to 14 times. Beck should be spreading the ball around to receivers. I don’t think he’s able to see the field very well. There were a lot of time today where Redskins receivers were wide open and Beck just never saw them. There are eight games left in the season. And Beck is not a long-term solution to this team. Regardless of what happens from here on out, the ‘Skins need to find a new quarterback nextg year - either through the draft or by signing a veteran. So there’s no reason to stick with Beck for the rest of this season, unless this is all part of Shanahan’s diabolical plan to tank it from here on out in hopes of getting Andrew Luck. Grossman gives the team the best chance to win going forward and he should be the starter next week in Miami. But until that happens, look forward to a lot more games like this one and last week’s trouncing in Toronto - games we’d all be best served to forget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enter Apotheosis Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 I find myself asking "Who in the hell is NoLeafClover?" every time I see one of these threads. The name change just isn't sinking in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chump Bailey Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 But, at the very least, I'm telling you there's a chance. About as much as winning the lottery Usually, I'd agree with the parity in the league and any given Sunday contention, but this is just a horrible matchup for us I think. There's little chance we run on their DL & LB's who are likely playing the best ball in the game right now. That of course means we have to lean on Beck, which is obviously not good. Their OL is good. They have playmakers other than Gore. If we do indeed win this game, I'll be amazed. Seriously amazed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Gadsden Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 We just have to give them a chance to see the errors of their 49er ways! To lay down their arms and meet their fellow men at the table of peace, where we can work together towards a better world. A world that’s better because we poisoned their food at that table, and stabbed them in the eye with a fork, and taking all their stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c4man5282 Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 NFL_RealUpdates Dov Kleiman #Redskins OT Trent Williams who has been dealing with a high ankle sprain since the #Eagles game is expected to start today. JasonLaCanfora Jason La Canfora Redskins also have LT Trent Williams scheduled to start. He's been out several weeks with an ankle injury and is listed as questionable JasonLaCanfora Jason La Canfora Fred Davis, listed as questionable with an ankle injury, will start for Redskins. More injury updates coming throughout GameDay Morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWO-tarious Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 About as much as winning the lottery Usually, I'd agree with the parity in the league and any given Sunday contention, but this is just a horrible matchup for us I think. There's little chance we run on their DL & LB's who are likely playing the best ball in the game right now. That of course means we have to lean on Beck, which is obviously not good. Their OL is good. They have playmakers other than Gore. If we do indeed win this game, I'll be amazed. Seriously amazed. I hate to admit it, but I don't see much of a chance for us today, either. Too many key injuries and an unproven QB. I'm obviously going to watch, but primarily to watch the train wreck unfold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fancrazyskin Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 I hope they aren't bring Trent back to early evening though it good news that the Left side of the line is a little bit more stable now. If he's not a 100% is it worth it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HapHaszard Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Please don't go commando this game Joel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drkstar Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 any word on Mo Hurt starting at LG and Montgomery back to Center now that TWilliams is back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinzwiz Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 The Redskins will win this game and surprise everyone. Why? Carlos Rogers will drop 5 interceptions helping the redskins to move down the field and score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 per rotoworld, Otogwe out. Williams to start, Davis to start. Inactives are: RB Tashard Choice, WR Santana Moss, WR Donte Stallworth, OL Willie Smith, DL Darrion Scott and LB Markus White. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoLeafClover Posted November 6, 2011 Author Share Posted November 6, 2011 We just have to give them a chance to see the errors of their 49er ways! To lay down their arms and meet their fellow men at the table of peace, where we can work together towards a better world. A world that’s better because we poisoned their food at that table, and stabbed them in the eye with a fork, and taking all their stuff. This really made me laugh. Well played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Helu and Hankerson starting, and Stallworth inactive?? Awesome! Best news so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 playing the kids mike! i like it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konga2145 Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Just heard Trent and Davis active and Helu to start at rb ---------- Post added November-6th-2011 at 12:03 PM ---------- Helu and Hankerson starting, and Stallworth inactive?? Awesome! Best news so far. Hankerson starting didn't know that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Just heard Trent and Davis active and Helu to start at rb---------- Post added November-6th-2011 at 12:03 PM ---------- Hankerson starting didn't know that Yup, and Hurt at LG, which presumably means Monty back at C where he belongs. I also am guessing that Paul sees lots of reps, because he's been ahead of Hankerson on the depth chart all along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoLeafClover Posted November 6, 2011 Author Share Posted November 6, 2011 playing the kids mike! i like it! I'm definitely intrigued to see what Helu does as the starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSHRedskins3ATLBraves3 Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 playing the kids mike! i like it! Exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoLeafClover Posted November 6, 2011 Author Share Posted November 6, 2011 I find myself asking "Who in the hell is NoLeafClover?" every time I see one of these threads. The name change just isn't sinking in. I will do my best to be more memorable. And if I fail in this goal, it won't really matter, since you won't remember that I wrote this comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostofSparta Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Good. If this team is going to compete and get better, I'd rather it be with the young guys like Hank, Helu, Hurt, Thompson, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailfrmDEN Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Nice hit kerrigan. I cant believe that ball didnt come out. ---------- Post added November-6th-2011 at 12:22 PM ---------- Sav Rocca is goin to have blisters on his foot after the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoLeafClover Posted November 6, 2011 Author Share Posted November 6, 2011 Nice hit kerrigan. I cant believe that ball didnt come out. Neither can Alex Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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