DieHard86 Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 shotgun on every damn third down? damn it, kyle. what the hell is wrong with you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinzfever2010 Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 shotgun on every damn third down? damn it, kyle. what the hell is wrong with you? Exactly. So ****ing predictable with his weird play calling. The Shanahan years need to start taking on some kind of identity. Who the hell are we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catatonic Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Just horrible and the beginning of the end in my opinion. Haha, the beginning of the end????????????????? The end got here long ago. This is more like an abyss that has no end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryGreenMonk Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 the beginning of the end. yup.. we are now sledding downhill in this regime.. 2 more years until another new crappy coach and at least futile hope again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinzfever2010 Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 yup.. we are now sledding downhill in this regime.. 2 more years until another new crappy coach and at least futile hope again. Coach has to at least make out better than Jim Zorn did in two years. I think Zorn was 12-20 after two years. If we go 3-12 or 4-12 this place might loose it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rypien1191 Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 7 straight losses to rookie QBs. Absolutely 100% unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeezgob Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Kyle seems to lurch from one extreme to the other. Considering the relative success of the running game, I thought the lack of play action in the first half was baffling. Not sold on our blitz happy defensive co-ordinator either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaxBuddy21 Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Our coaches have coached scared for the last few years. No one takes risks and tries to bury a team. They run predictable and conservative plays. They get conservative on defense especially when we play a bad team. This is exactly why we play to the level of the team we are playing. We feel like we have nothing to lose against a good team so we open it up more but since we are supposed to beat bad teams, we play conservative and scared. I am getting so sick and tired of it. I dont care how little talent we have. You cant coach like a scared little ***** in the NFL and actually expect to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedBNG Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Not that I was against it or anything, but just curious... have we ever been successful with an offensive onside kick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWO-tarious Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 bad coaching by haslett today. we respected newton way too much for a rookie. newtons whole premise is that when hes pressured he makes stupid mistakes. we let him sit back there all day and pick us apart with no big blitzes. no 0 coverages today, no house blitzes, no real heat aside from early on in the game.this whole team sucks as a whole and we will not win a lot this season, so get used to games like this people. we are headed for the cellar again, and hopefully a good enough pick that we can fix some of these holes. Yeah, I'm a little perplexed by the lack of blitzing. I understand not wanting to give up "the big one," we we did that without blitzing. I'm just a little disappointed in the D today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoDeep81 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I'll agree with Shanny that he didnt have the team prepared.. They're not very disciplined either.. I really dont how they're allowed to jump up and start dancing after a TD, when their down by 20 and the games nearly over.. I though that kinda junk AT LEAST would be fixed by now, with Mike Shanahan as our coach, but we still see it about every game.. The players just done seem to grasp the reality of the situation I guess.. Maybe the coaches dont either? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins3000 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Its called the QB couldnt get it done...... All his yards came in the second half when the panthers a decent lead, then started playing the bend but dont break defense on us. Any QB that has an NFL jersey on should be able to pick up those yards..... Disagree on that, the Skins were within three in the second half when the Panthers scored their first touchdown and that was mostly passing by Beck to get into the second half briefly there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jthor99 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Coefield and the entire DL got pushed around today. I literally thought I was watching film of last year pathetic defense. The lack of athleticism on the DL is clearly noticable, and I have said all season if you stick with the running game against the Redskins you eventually gash them for long runs (multiple). They just don't have personel depth to make this defense work week in, week out IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyzachamp Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Taking Hank in the 3rd round? Agree, I waste of a pick, there were far better talent left on the board besides him!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyHolt Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Worst coaching move may have been respecting the rookie. You would think we learned how to beat them by now. If they can scramble or not, we play them to lose the game themselves. I believe that is now 7 straight losses to rookie QBs. Sure Cam scrambled and scared the daylights out of Haslet, but I would rather him under pressure, than not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wholee Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 What is our team identity again? The play calling is predictable and the execution is poor. If you see N. Paul in the game, we're running. Aren't we an aggressive defense? Looked more passive to me. See, this is all about coaching. You have a first 15 play script that should be flawless and the rest is adjusting your gameplan according to situtions. Guys, don't rag on the players too much. This is the NFL. These players wouldn't be in the league if they weren't good enough. Yes there were dropped balls and mistakes here and there but you should be able to overcome that. The Panthers committed over 10 penalities for over 100 yards. And we can't come close to competing for a full 60 minutes? The coaches put the players in the best possible position to succeed based on "intel". They are failing, point blank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinzfever2010 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 What is our team identity again? The play calling is predictable and the execution is poor. If you see N. Paul in the game, we're running. Aren't we an aggressive defense? Looked more passive to me. See, this is all about coaching. You have a first 15 play script that should be flawless and the rest is adjusting your gameplan according to situtions. Guys, don't rag on the players too much. This is the NFL. These players wouldn't be in the league if they weren't good enough. Yes there were dropped balls and mistakes here and there but you should be able to overcome that. The Panthers committed over 10 penalities for over 100 yards. And we can't come close to competing for a full 60 minutes? The coaches put the players in the best possible position to succeed based on "intel". They are failing, point blank. Things weren't clear the moment we sent two picks to philly for McNabb. Our identity and direction has been questionable ever since that didn't work out. Shan better find his QB fast. I see why the folks in Denver got tired of this movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wholee Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Things weren't clear the moment we sent two picks to philly for McNabb. Our identity and direction has been questionable ever since that didn't work out. Shan better find his QB fast. I see why the folks in Denver got tired of this movie. I totally agree Skinsfever2010. These things didn't happen overnight and he's done some good things while here to build a team. On gameday, I just don't understand what I'm watching. It seems as if we should be better than this. Not necessarily playoff bound but at least competing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HogNose Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 worst call of the day: onsides kick with 5 minutes left.thats the worst call of mikes tenure IMO. i have never seen a dumber call in his time here. Yeah and we had three timeouts left. Awful call......I couldn't believe they actually did that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahons21 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I personally think Kyle Shannahan is out-coaching himself. Kyle is creating a scheme that can beat defenses, rather than creating a scheme that his lack-luster offense can run. KS didn't want to tailor the offense to McNabb's strengths last year, and this year seems to be more of the same. A couple of drives yesterday stick out to me, that IIRC were at the start of the 2nd half. The play-calling on these drives was masterful, PA, PA boots, stretches and etc.. very well scattered and not predictable at all. If not for a Davis drop, these two drives were some of the most impressive of the day. So why wasn't Beck's mobility used to this extent earlier in the game? This should have been the game-plan all along in my opinion. Because KS doesn't create a gameplan based on what he's working with, he creates a gameplan that can beat the opponent IF and only IF all the parts are working right, ie QB making correct pre-snap reads, WR's getting open off man coverage, and that just hasn't been the case. Thankfully we made some adjustments in the 2nd half, next week I'd like to see the team build off these adjustments. So I beg of Kyle, please please please, devise your gameplan around your limited options, though frustrating I'm sure it will yield the best results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan242 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Some of you on here just complain about play call this and that when you have no idea what you're talking about. I'm sorry the Play Calls were not bad. Our execution was, it's that simple. You have to block, you have to tackle, you have to catch the ball, you can't fumble. We didn't do any of those things well. That's why we lost. You can second guess play calls all the time based on the results of the actual play. That is just an excuse and an easy way to complain. ---------- Post added October-24th-2011 at 01:04 PM ---------- Now if you want to say bad coaching becuase our team didn't look ready to play, lacked passion. Then I would agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fight for ole DC Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Like the idea of going for it but i would of rather seen Ryan T run. +1 Run the ball. One of the worst run Ds in the NFL>>>>run the ball. This series in particular bothered me becasue it showed the playcalling was not looking past the next play. If you are going to go for it on 4th, run the ball on 3rd and 2. If you don't make it run it again. If you can't make a 1st on one of the worst run Ds in the NFL then oh well. Calling back to back pass plays was poor planning and decision-making on the part of the coaches IMO. The pass play at the end of the 1st half was bothersome, too (gafney's fumble). Run the ball against one of the worst run Ds in the NFL. If you get nothing, oh well. Go into half tied and get the ball to open the 2nd half. Who knows, maybe we break a long run and then take a chance at a FG before half. But risking a turnover on a short pass play seemed like a poor decision. I did not like some of the decision-making yesterday. We were outcoached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_neon Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I don't mean to be a jerk or anything guys, but how many "The Sky is Falling" threads do we need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve09ru Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 The only positive I saw yesterday from play calling offensively was the number of playaction plays we ran in the 2nd half...i have been calling for that all year and it works great with the personnel we have. I was fine with the defensive playcalling in the 1st half (blitz and get Newton off balance) - that disappeared in the 2nd half for some reason... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahons21 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 The only positive I saw yesterday from play calling offensively was the number of playaction plays we ran in the 2nd half...i have been calling for that all year and it works great with the personnel we have. I really agree with this, but here's what I don't understand. THT, better receiver and blocker than Torain, is in the game and we're constantly rushing the ball, not using too much PA. THT gets hurt, we get away from rushing the ball (where Torain is better than THT) and turn to PA forcing Torain to be a blocker/receiver. Talk about not using what you have wisely... KS didn't play to any of the RB's strengths, nor did he play to the QB's strengths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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