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That was a fun episode. If Merle had to go - what a way to go out! And even though I didn't thiiiiiiiiink Michonne was going to be actually handed over to the Governor, it still had me nervous!

Oh, and Jumbo is right - Talking Dead is worth checking out. It could do w/ a better host, but they do add alot of insight about the show and characters. Some of the behind the scenes stuff and some of the guests are good too.

Stoked for the finale!

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Ellis' post (no slam intended) is another great unintentional endorsement for Talking Dead. They explain so much that doesn't make final cuts (and people don't realize how much backstory and decision making that is really part of so almost every scene in this series, and of which so much can't make the final edits and relies (hopes for) the savvy of the audience...that's not to suggest that some things don't just fall flat, either...it is just a quality tv series, not Shakespeare...

yeh, duckus, the dude (actor paiayng Merle)was a little off and ego-ish, but still had his moments...the actor (another Brit) who plays the gov was cool...too lazy to refresh myself on their names right now

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The actor who played Merle was on Talking Dead last night. Did anybody else find him to be a bit weird?

I found his answers to the questions about his character a bit lacking. It seemed like he didn't really understand his own characters' development, his final act in trying to kill the governor, and his death scene.

I agree. This is why they are actors and not directors. The actors always try to defend their character, especially the "bad guys" because face it, nobody likes being hated/despised. We saw this defensiveness in the actors playing Andrea, the Gov, and Merle. They only want to draw sympathy for their character whereas the directors might be painting a different story. I think the directors have evolved Merle and the Governor over time to show how this world can bring out both the bad and the good in people. It's about how you live and sometimes how you die.

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It's about how you live and sometimes how you die.

I also keep sight of the producers previously stated series-long interest in playing with conflict/ambiguity of who is really more the walking dead at times, the z's or the survivors, and the ongoing moral/existential fuzzies of what is essentially now two species I(and their perhaps not totally known yet characteristics) competing for survival/evolution etc.

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I also keep sight of the producers previously stated series-long interest in playing with conflict/ambiguity of who is really more the walking dead at times, the z's or the survivors, and the ongoing moral/existential fuzzies of what is essentially now two species I(and their perhaps not totally known yet characteristics) competing for survival/evolution etc.

The loss of our humanity/morals in order to survive is what creates the figuratively speaking walking dead.

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.............. I think the directors have evolved Merle and the Governor over time to show how this world can bring out both the bad and the good in people. It's about how you live and sometimes how you die.

I think this new world generally just brings out the bad in people and the survivors have to resist/overcome how it is effecting them. I suspect that the desease that causes Zombism also causes madness in the living which leads to violence and aggression. This could explain why the zombies overwhelmed the planet. People started killing each other early and never really stopped, this is what likely provided the Zombie numbers advantage early in the plague .

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The loss of our humanity/morals in order to survive is what creates the figuratively speaking walking dead.

Not a lot gets by you.

:pfft:

:evilg:

<me = ******* :ols:>

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The loss of our humanity/morals in order to survive is what creates the figuratively speaking walking dead.

I don't think the title is in reference to the zombies, moreso the survivors.

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yeah, after several ES folks recommended it, we started tuning into Talking Dead as well a few weeks ago. I enjoy it. :)

Jumbo, is it acceptable to discuss scenes from the preview of the finale next week? I'm talking about the regular preview that they show right after the episode goes off during the credits.

Absolutely, and I hate being in the role of bordering on too anal about this kind-o-crap, so I appreciate any help. :ols:

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Absolutely, and I hate being in the role of bordering on too anal about this kind-o-crap, so I appreciate any help. :ols:

Okay cool, thanks for the clarification. :)

With that said, holy ****-- did anybody else see that ****ing grenade launcher the Gov had?! he one-shotted the guard tower and it was toast. Yikes.

It would be cool if Morgan showed up and helped our group set up some traps in the jail, and then hauled ass outta there before the Woodbury army shows up.

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based on the sneak peek it looks like the group decides to pack up and leave and when the army arrives at the prison they are already long gone

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based on the sneak peek it looks like the group decides to pack up and leave and when the army arrives at the prison they are already long gone

My money is on them taking over woodberry :P

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My money is on them taking over woodberry :P

that's what i was thinking. sneak in the backdoor and conquer woodbury while the gov and his top goons are tearing through the prison.

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Like an earlier poster suggested (and I had been thinking)--perhaps use guerrilla tactics of luring them in and whittling away at their superior numbers via knowing the turf, dividing the enemy forces up into smaller contingents to cover all the territory, and setting up various forms of traps/ambushes (including their own using of walkers, gasoline-derived munitions). Attempt to make it more costly than worthwhile for many of the followers if not the gov himself (while trying to target him, of course), and hope to weaken woodbury resolve even if not achieve actual victory. Least that would be my likely method.

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that's what i was thinking. sneak in the backdoor and conquer woodbury while the gov and his top goons are tearing through the prison.

Worth consideration, but little or no intel on remaining numbers in town and nature of that home turf would be real liabilities, as well as limited numbers in the prison group re: dividing forces or knowing/covering the whole town in terms of egress points.

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anyone know what Merle needed a phone for?

wow, completely forgot about that. Good question.

@ Jumbo, good point. too many unknowns to try and take Woodbury with their limited numbers. They're better off using guerilla tactics to setup an ambush somewhere.

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anyone know what Merle needed a phone for?

Return ET's call? Actually, I thought maybe he wanted to talk to Laurie.

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anyone know what Merle needed a phone for?

i suspected that cord was what he was going to bind Michonne with.

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Read on another forum that he used the cord to tie up Michonne, and the rotary dial to put her fingers in.

Yeah, i just read that too....followed by a "duh" moment. thinking back on it, you could even see pieces of the phone used to tie up Michonee's fingers.

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Michonne said something to the effect that they didn't need to win, just make it so costly they'd have to give it up. The teaser from next weeks show just makes me smh again, y'all let 'em just roll in that easy? No traps, no barricades, not even anything to disable their vehicles? C'mon, you want to kick their asses and then make 'em walk home. I expect the walkers to do most of the fighting in the prison, there seemed to be very few out in the yard when they came bustin' in.

The shot of the Guv's guys blowing up the watchtower was impressive, but typical BS, its just a 40mm grenade launcher not a MOAB :rolleyes:

Rooker on TalkingDead was a little whacked out but no moreso than ever, he has a long career before TWD and has always been kinda off, its part of his charm. The thing that gets me is that David Morrissey (the Gov) and Andrew Lincoln (Rick) are so distinctly Brit in their speech during interviews, but they've both got such control of their voices that you'd never know it from the show.

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Yeah, i just read that too....followed by a "duh" moment. thinking back on it, you could even see pieces of the phone used to tie up Michonee's fingers.

I obviously need a bigger tv :silly:

awfully stiff wire for phone cord

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Rooker on TalkingDead was a little whacked out but no moreso than ever, he has a long career before TWD and has always been kinda off, its part of his charm.

I just found his answers lacking any understanding of the transformation and depth of the character he was playing. To be fair, I only watched part of it as on it the background as I was getting work done on my laptop - so I might have missed better parts.

When they asked him why he thought Merle decided to free Michonne he said something along the lines of: "I think he was tried of hearing her talk. He knew what he wanted to do, he didn't need her and just wanted her to shut up."

He had 3-4 other answers along those lines.

I am excited for next week.

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