Skins Wingman Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Last week, larry fitzgerald had a 73 yd TD against us. week 1, steven jackson had a 47 yd TD run against the eagles. these are just 2 plays that i remember right off the top of my head. They happen all the time around the league, except to us. Sure, we've had a lot of big plays that go for yardage, but not for a TD. Why can we never seem to hit that "home run" play? Is it play calling? Are our players too slow? Execution? Theres nothing that gets me more excited than a big TD play that goes for 40+ yards, but they come few and far between with the redskins. some good reasons pointed out in this thread: 1.)QB not making a good throw. 2.)QB/WR timing 3.)Offensive scheme not designed for big plays. 4.)Talent of our players 5.)Blocking downfield by WR <--interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.T.real,lights,out Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 IMO, its on the QB. The last two years AA has been behind the D but we cant seem to make the throw. Like week 1 with Gaff and last week with Davis. Love the way Rex is playing but if we want to make the big plays he has to make those throws. Note: last year it was usually McNabb under throwing AA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins Wingman Posted September 23, 2011 Author Share Posted September 23, 2011 if we want to start scaring teams and show that we're for real, i think we need to hit some of these big plays. seems like we can never bust one tho. i look at teams like the patriots and they make a 99yd TD pass look so easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 It's about timing. Had Rex thrown the ball a little earlier, it probably would have gone. Just takes a little getting used to each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
authentic Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Had Rex missed Moss going up the middle vs NY. Rex also hit Davis too late on that 40 yard gain which would have been a wide open TD vs AZ. As others have said its about timing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superozman Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 I believe, it's in the offensive scheme. Some teams seem to have more plays drawn up for more "home run" plays. If you look at our offense, and kyle's scheme, it's a lot of short to intermediate passes, and to me runs are just happenstance that it goes for 40+ yards. AA and Moss are great Home Run threats, and from all this talk Helu should be. But they will come in time. I'm better at baseball knowledge, but this is just my opinion here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botched Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 As well as Rex has been playing, he still seems utterly incapable of hitting a receiver in full stride. Personally I would love to see a long TD run more than anything. When was the last time we saw a rushing touchdown of 40+ yards? I can't remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrecker Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Last week, larry fitzgerald had a 73 yd TD against us. week 1, steven jackson had a 47 yd TD run against the eagles. these are just 2 plays that i remember right off the top of my head. They happen all the time around the league, except to us. Sure, we've had a lot of big plays that go for yardage, but not for a TD. Why can we never seem to hit that "home run" play? Is it play calling? Are our players too slow? Execution? Theres nothing that gets me more excited than a big TD play that goes for 40+ yards, but they come few and far between with the redskins. As soon as the timing with the receivers gets better I hope these will come. I agree, it seems we can never hit the receiver in stride on a go route or deep post. Hopefully Rex (**** it, I'm going deep) Grossman will be able to hit these sooner rather than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsCrushCowboys Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 10 short passes for a TD or 1 long pass for a TD...who cares. If the shot is there I am sure we will take it....on the fourth down TD last week, he checked off of an open WR in the flat and threw into the endzone for a TD. Take what the defense gives. I nice long time consuming drive is fine with me. Wears out the opponents D and rests ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins Wingman Posted September 23, 2011 Author Share Posted September 23, 2011 When was the last time we saw a rushing touchdown of 40+ yards? I can't remember. looking at nfl.com real quick, looks like portis had a 47yd td run back in 2005. his longest was 78 in 2009 but it wasnt a touchdown. there was a couple of years in between where our longest runs were in the 30's.. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chase M Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 We threw a TD on a 4th down play and tha'ts no considered a "home run play" ???????? :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botched Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 looking at nfl.com real quick, looks like portis had a 47yd td run back in 2005. his longest was 78 in 2009 but it wasnt a touchdown. there was a couple of years in between where our longest runs were in the 30's.. :doh: That's horrendous. Portis was not a homerun threat at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander -JB- Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 As well as Rex has been playing, he still seems utterly incapable of hitting a receiver in full stride. Personally I would love to see a long TD run more than anything. When was the last time we saw a rushing touchdown of 40+ yards? I can't remember. If im not mistaken, it was Portis' very first run as a Redskin. I might be wrong. Ok, nevermind, he had the 47 harder in 05. I guess the run in 04 was his longest. 56 yards was it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrecker Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Take what the defense gives. That is the point of the OP. The defenses have given us the big play but we were not able to connect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins Wingman Posted September 23, 2011 Author Share Posted September 23, 2011 look at the bears game last year. deangelo hall has a 92 yd int for a TD and you can say that won us the game. sometimes you need these 40+ yd TD's to swing the momentum of a game or just flat out win a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrecker Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 We threw a TD on a 4th down play and tha'ts no considered a "home run play" ???????? :doh: Once again, the OP is defining a "home run play" as a TD that goes for 40+ yards. Although the 4th down play was a huge play for us it was still only an 18 yard pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticVillain Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 look at the bears game last year. deangelo hall has a 92 yd int for a TD and you can say that won us the game. sometimes you need these 40+ yd TD's to swing the momentum of a game or just flat out win a game. I agree, but I disagree. Patriots: Nickle and Dime Packers: Air Force Attack Saints: A little of both All three offenses are producing at a high rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morpheusmeyers Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 Last week, larry fitzgerald had a 73 yd TD against us. week 1, steven jackson had a 47 yd TD run against the eagles. these are just 2 plays that i remember right off the top of my head. They happen all the time around the league, except to us. Sure, we've had a lot of big plays that go for yardage, but not for a TD. Why can we never seem to hit that "home run" play? Is it play calling? Are our players too slow? Execution? Theres nothing that gets me more excited than a big TD play that goes for 40+ yards, but they come few and far between with the redskins. Ironically, despite hitting those big plays that you mentioned both the Cardinals and the Rams lost those games. You don't always need the long TD's to win games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVAbrendan Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 As others have said, the plays are there. The match-ups are there. It's all about Grossman (or whoever is at QB) making those throws for the players in stride. So far this season, that's his only downside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins Wingman Posted September 23, 2011 Author Share Posted September 23, 2011 Ironically, despite hitting those big plays that you mentioned both the Cardinals and the Rams lost those games. You don't always need the long TD's to win games. what im saying is why cant our team hit those plays, hence me writing, "Why can we never seem to hit that "home run" play? Is it play calling? Are our players too slow? Execution?" but i guess u completely missed the point of the thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsCrushCowboys Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 That is the point of the OP. The defenses have given us the big play but we were not able to connect. Depends on your definition of a big play....a big play does not need to be a 70 yard bomb.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purpose Driven Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 i honestly think Hightower and Helu are going to start breaking off some 50 yarders as they settle in the ZBS and teams start to figure out Grossman is for real and can't just focus on the run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins Wingman Posted September 23, 2011 Author Share Posted September 23, 2011 Once again, the OP is defining a "home run play" as a TD that goes for 40+ yards. Although the 4th down play was a huge play for us it was still only an 18 yard pass. Depends on your definition of a big play....a big play does not need to be a 70 yard bomb.. thank you wrecker, you understand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsCrushCowboys Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 thank you wrecker, you understand I understand fully, but appreciate a big play being something other than a long TD. If is great in video games and fantastic for your fantasy teams, but not always the best thing in an actual game. I am guessing that Fitzgerald would trade his big play for a win in the game resulting from a bunch of small plays made at critical times. With that said... F it...go deep! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybrant Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 I have a feeling that before the season is over Roy Helu will give us atleast one of those home run plays you're looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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