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The Most Miserable Cities In America

20. New Orleans, LA

19. Orlando, FL

18. San Fancisco, CA

17. Los Angeles, CA

16. Lakeland, FL

15. Modesto, CA

14. Bakersfield, CA

13. Boise, ID

12. Detroit, MI

11. Phoenix, AZ

10. Tampa, FL

9. Fresno, CA

8. Miami, FL

7. Palm Bay, FL

6. Sarasota, FL

5. Cape Coral, FL

4. Stockton, CA

3. Sacramento, CA

2. Riverside, CA

1. Las Vegas, NV

Click on the link for the full article including basis for rankings

For comparison, here's the list of most miserable cities put out by Forbes this past spring:

  1. Stockton, CA
  2. Miami, FL
  3. Merced, CA
  4. Modesto, CA
  5. Sacramento, CA
  6. Memphis, TN
  7. Chicago, IL
  8. W. Palm Beach, FL
  9. Vallejo, CA
  10. Cleveland, OH
  11. Flint, MI
  12. Toledo, OH
  13. For Lauderdale, FL
  14. Youngstown, OH
  15. Detroit, MI
  16. Washington, DC
  17. Fresno, CA
  18. Salinas, CA
  19. Jacksonville, FL
  20. Bakersfield, CA

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There seems to be a consensus that Stockton and Sacramento are cities to stay away from.

This new list has a lot of Florida cities. Perhaps there are a lot of grumpy old people influencing the list.

And I'm surprised Detroit isn't higher on both lists.

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I was in Stockton for a few months back in the eighties. Friggin' horrible. No surprise it hasn't changed.

---------- Post added September-21st-2011 at 12:45 PM ----------

I wondered why San Francisco was on the list, but the site appears to be down and I can't reach the story.

The first list isn't based on h ow awful a place is (SF is the Florence of N America) it's based on unemployment and drop in housing values.

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I was in Stockton for a few months back in the eighties. Friggin' horrible. No surprise it hasn't changed.

I was there a few months ago. Absolutely awful. The worst part, houses are still $600,000. I find it amusing that people rip on the South for its squalor- at least it has a charm to go along with it, and the dilapidated houses cost $20k.

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I was in Stockton for a few months back in the eighties. Friggin' horrible. No surprise it hasn't changed

Stockton is horrible. It has all the hassles (traffic, crime etc.) of a big city, yet all the culture and excitement of a city one tenth its size. :silly:

The first list isn't based on h ow awful a place is (SF is the Florence of N America) it's based on unemployment and drop in housing values.

Except that San Francisco's unemployment rate is below the national average and three points lower than California as a whole. And our housing prices remain ridiculously high, and have barely been dented since the recession began. :whoknows:

---------- Post added September-21st-2011 at 09:57 AM ----------

I was there a few months ago. Absolutely awful. The worst part, houses are still $600,000. I find it amusing that people rip on the South for its squalor- at least it has a charm to go along with it, and the dilapidated houses cost $20k.

All those houses were built with the idea that somehow the Bay Area would expand all the way out there and people would see Stockton as a "Bay Area Alternative." And the house flippers bought into it, and sold houses back and forth to each other at ever increasing prices. Then reality set in. I'm sorry, but a two hour commute to a flat hot traffic-snarled cesspool in the middle of the Central Valley is not what the tech millionaires are looking for. :silly:

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I was in Reno recently, and I'm surprised its not on the list. What a dump. None of the panache of Vegas. All the Reno casinos just look sad. Driving around town, it seemed that at least half (and in some areas nearly all) of the storefronts were boarded up. Very grim indeed.

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I wondered why San Francisco was on the list, but the site appears to be down and I can't reach the story.

well here's the first part

Combine high unemployment, a stagnant economy and basement-level housing prices, and what have you got?

The most miserable cities in America, according to Brookings, of course! The think tank combined every major U.S. city's unemployment rate, level of employment, gross metropolitan product and housing prices to create an index of utter wretchedness.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/the-most-miserable-cities-in-america-2011-9?op=1#ixzz1Ybnqq5GN

here is what it says specifically about San Fran

#18 San Francisco

See those employment numbers? Obviously Silicon Valley can't carry this city.

Image: El Frito via Flickr

Unemployment: up 4.4%

Employment: down 7.4%

Gross Metropolitan Product: down 6.1%

Home prices: down 38.6%

Employment, GMP and home prices measured from peak through Q2 2011. Unemployment measured from Q2 2008 through Q2 2011. Data provided by Brookings MetroMonitor.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/the-most-miserable-cities-in-america-2011-9?op=1#ixzz1Ybo4mkfR

I think thats sort of like measuring NYC in the 1980s. Terrible on every major statisitic but still a great place to visit.

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I have relatives in Tampa Bay and Palm Bay and friends in Jacksonville. I visit Florida fairly regularly and of the three Jacksonville is by far the most ... um ... repulsive. The other two seem like perfectly nice places to live. I understand these lists are based on statistics but I'm shocked Jacksonville isn't on there somewhere.

EDIT: I see it's 19th on the second list. Should be higher. :)

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I dont get this

I'd go on vacation there and have a great time

Why is that the most miserable city in America exactly?

Economy is bad

Housing crashed

Employment sucks

fun to visit maybe,but I prefer Reno or Aruba

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I dont get this

I'd go on vacation there and have a great time

Why is that the most miserable city in America exactly?

Because visiting the Strip for a few days is different than living in the rest of the city for your entire life. Very, very different.

---------- Post added September-21st-2011 at 12:31 PM ----------

Hmm. No way housing prices are down 38 percent in San Francisco. :whoknows:

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awesome, maybe I can actually afford to live in SF in the not so distant future

stats lie

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=atBfoEWN00Ww&refer=home

San Francisco Home Prices Fall 41% on Foreclosures

probably depends on the area and of course what inflated price they started with for the figures

btw that says SF Bay Area which is MUCH larger than San Francisco proper. SF Bay Area includes places like Oakland, Pleasonton, San Jose, Richmond, South San Francisco... etc, in addition to San Francisco

looks like I have to nix my initial enthusiasm... oh well, I like Oakland

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