Art Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 Beating the Giants was getting a monkey off our back. It was a good win by a fired up team at home. It was the Redskins at their typical best over the years. Meaning, when people thought the least of them, they played loose, confident and capable. They have for years. Against the Giants it was no different really. Now, while we're seeking to discover whether this team is any different than any other team we've had, we get a home game against a team we're easily capable of defeating. In the past, such games, those which serve to announce we're coming or to confirm we're not, play out EXACTLY as we saw. We push the other team around for a good portion of the game. We self destruct in multiple phases. We leave points on the board. The other team stabilizes, adjusts, takes over and wins a game we know we COULD have won, had we just not been so mistake prone. Losing that game is EXACTLY what we do. While Redskins teams have the ability to play well when people think they are at their worst, NO Redskins team has had the quality of good teams. Resilience. That's not us. We don't make mistakes and find a way to win. We don't hurt ourselves and overcome. Not the Redskins. Either we have never been good enough to do that OR we've always had the attitude that we were better than we were. We were our mistakes and unmerited overconfidence. Winning Arizona IS a sea change. Period. Flatly. That doesn't mean we are a Super Bowl team. It doesn't mean we are even a GREAT team. It merely means we are no longer a team assured to be at least as responsible for its own failure as the opponent. It means we have the team talent and weapons on all three units to overcome mistakes. It means we are not doomed to lose every close game. Now, we face Dallas. That's a sure loss for an ok team just emerging to build toward being a little bit better than ok. It's even ok to lose. But, we won't. We won't for a reason that has nothing to do with Dallas. They are not a bad team. They are at home. They are a tough matchup for us. We'll win because this team now thinks it can. It now thinks the offense can't really be stopped. Sure, we can stop ourselves. But, even today, when we were FAR from efficient, we still are capable of 480 yards. The team knows you can't cover EVERYTHING we have. You can't consistently push our defense around. It IS NOT yet a great team, but it wants to think the belief in itself and confidence in itself is merited. Arizona gave it the SLIGHTEST bit of merit. 4-0 into the bye gives it a throaty arrival, a little ahead of where it should be, but, fixed in the knowledge this is no longer the Redskins team of a generation. It's not so much a statement as an inexorable march for a team that actually seems to like itself AND those leading it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 Yeah, we really tried to sabotage ourselves, but then we came back and took it. It's a win we deserved esp. statistically, but man did we try to self destruct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFISkins Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 Excellent post. No one has to slam the Kool Aid....just sip it slowly and enjoy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoVaSkins21 Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 I love the optimism by the OP, but 4-0 is just preposterous right now. This is a "one game at a time" team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsGuy Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 Nice post, Art. I believed this team could win in a game like this that they would normally lose, but I must admit my confidence got a little shaken in the second half when the 'D' was letting Wells run all over them (he averaged, I think, almost 9 yards a carry in the second half). Fortunately, they tightened up and played better and won the game. HTTR!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIBBY! Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 Cocaine is a hell of a drug..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Jones Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 Good post, I agree the skins were the better team and should win this game, but AZ is a little bit better than I thought they would be. Kolb was a little bit better than I expected. Not taking anything away or anthing, just saying we beat a decent football team today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 We play like we did for parts of today there will not be a 4-0. We played a mediocre team. The Giants was a division nemesis vanquished finally but I get the feeling the Giants will be having a new coach in 2012. I still see a .500 team and when we play the elite teams, we aren't going to be able to come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuriousD Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 I don't think there's any doubt that this was exactly the kind of game we would have lost in the past but there seems to be a difference this year. The players say they can feel it and the results on the field so far are positive. This looks and feels like a different team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadExField Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 Good post Art. I would love to come out of a game with no injuries, win or lose. I would hate to have any after the bye week. Hopefully next week we won't be "sneaking by" to get the win, and hopefully we can really finally put a team away, which is the one thing I haven't seen us do in a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsGuy Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 Cocaine is a hell of a drug..... And trolls don't add anything to the conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins4eva Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 I agree, Art. And I feel good because I called a Skins victory in the game thread when things looked dark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLiverpool Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 I didn't see it posted, but the Skins had something like 38 minutes of ball control. That's madness! Awesome win Skins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rypien1191 Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 All time jinx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 I didn't see it posted, but the Skins had something like 38 minutes of ball control. That's madness! Awesome win Skins. It is, but then when your so poor in the RZ,, and leave so many 6 points on the field, it's eventually gona' bite you on the ass. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tml6157 Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 How did the "Will Rex throw for 500 yards and 6 TDs" work out for us? Can we please just take it one game at a time. There are A LOT of mistakes that need to be corrected before next game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winstonspencer Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 All time jinx. i have to agree. WTF is this 4-0 talk??? we still have to play the cowboys and the rams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Skins Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 Not saying we're going to start 4-0, but this is a game we would've lost in many many many years past. Great win, showing a different type of attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tml6157 Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 All time jinx. You aren't kidding. Can a mod delete this thread? ---------- Post added September-18th-2011 at 09:08 PM ---------- i have to agree. WTF is this 4-0 talk???we still have to play the cowboys and the rams Exactly. Its Dallas in Dallas and we usually lose there. We always seem to play like crap against STL no matter their record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONTEY Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 I don't think there's any doubt that this was exactly the kind of game we would have lost in the past but there seems to be a difference this year. The players say they can feel it and the results on the field so far are positive. This looks and feels like a different team! Agreed. But I tell you what. If our Skins had lost this and then lose next week to the turds then all the good tidings established after the huge Giants win would be gone. And yeah last seasons and past this would have been a loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted September 18, 2011 Author Share Posted September 18, 2011 You aren't kidding. Can a mod delete this thread?---------- Post added September-18th-2011 at 09:08 PM ---------- Exactly. Its Dallas in Dallas and we usually lose there. We always seem to play like crap against STL no matter their record. Why would a mod delete this thread? It is impossible, you understand, for a fan to jinx the football team. The team itself will perform as it's going to perform, whether individual fans believe in it, or, tear it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 Do people actually believe in jinxes? Jesus. I can't believe I'm sitting here and reading grown men post that someone should delete this thread because its a ****ing jinx. That's embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winstonspencer Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 Why would a mod delete this thread?It is impossible, you understand, for a fan to jinx the football team. The team itself will perform as it's going to perform, whether individual fans believe in it, or, tear it down. it's bad karma, mojo, whatever. you don't talk about a no-hitter during a no-hitter sports fans by nature are superstitous, and there is NOTHING wrong with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted September 18, 2011 Author Share Posted September 18, 2011 it's bad karma, mojo, whatever. you don't talk about a no-hitter during a no-hitter We are a team with the history of Kornheiser's Bandwagon going for us. We're fine talking about hitting a roll when we hit one, which has been rare and is not yet even assured to be happening now. And it still has no answer as to why anyone would delete a thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsarethebest Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 Dear Art, A good and thoughtful post. And a bold starting point for discussion. But I have to say I disagree ultimately with your conclusion that a sea change in the identity of the team has occurred ... at least not yet. Exhibit A: the first botched field goal. Exhibit B: the second missed FG. If you want to say this is a team that's exorcised the demons of its past, then consider Exhibits A and B: I don't think a team that really has turned a corner lets those two mistakes happen. It just doesn't. I can almost forgive the INTs by Sexy Rexy (one of which wasn't really his fault). But to be in such a critical situation (and after having not scored TDs which we arguably should have if we truly were the confident team that you hypothesize we are) and to choke like that is a little troubling to say the least. Thank God we didn't on the third, and most important, one. But who here was confident that Gano makes that game winning FG?.... I had an uneasy feeling on that one, and I think that stems from the fact that, as of yet, the team still hasn't quite turned the corner yet. Too much of a residual vestige of seasons past reared its ugly head in this game. Just my 2cents. HTTR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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