spanishomelette Posted September 16, 2003 Share Posted September 16, 2003 Remember last year when the 'Skins wanted to trade for Chandler? http://users.boardnation.com/~par49/index.php?board=13;action=display;threadid=980 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inmate running the asylum Posted September 16, 2003 Share Posted September 16, 2003 Does anyone realize that the difference between being 2-0 and 0-2, were the two 50+ yard field goals made by Hall in the Jets and Falcons games? Fifty yard field goals aint gimmes. Now that we have found a kicker, if we could only find a punter and get rid of Bryan "shank" Barker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TennesseeCarl Posted September 16, 2003 Share Posted September 16, 2003 Winning the field position battle more often by virtue of better punting might mean those 50 yarders would be 35 yarders in the future. Cut Barker now. We'd be unlikely to sign a worse punter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted September 16, 2003 Share Posted September 16, 2003 word on the street is the hall thinks barker is the best holder he's ever had. he probably said gives the best head...instead of holder though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlanta Skins Fan Posted September 16, 2003 Share Posted September 16, 2003 Originally posted by TennesseeCarl Cut Barker now. We'd be unlikely to sign a worse punter. Barker is Hall's holder. If you like the 54-yard field goals, it would be a good idea not to mess with Hall's head in mid-season. Or would you like another trip down memory lane, say the 1999 playoffs? You only notice the holder when they screw up. Let's not start noticing the holder again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenaciousd Posted September 17, 2003 Share Posted September 17, 2003 You ever heard a Spurrier interview when he talks about Hall? The way he gushes? Jose Cortez will do that to you. Clutch kicking is crucial. There was so much Hall bashing from Jets fans about Hall (about his supposed inconsistency) and even on this board! He was a fantastic pickup and probably the most slept on of our acquisitions. Give Vinny and Danny some props. Spurrier does EVERY postgame interview! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabblerouser Posted September 17, 2003 Share Posted September 17, 2003 So let Shanks hold and bring in another punter. Who are we using the third QB spot on now anyway? As illogical as it may sound, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted September 17, 2003 Share Posted September 17, 2003 Going to have to cut somebody to make room for a punter then. Barker, so far, hasn't been all that bad in 2 games. Against the Falcons he flat out kicked the hell out of it. With any hope, maybe he's consistent this season. Now that's where it could get interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarhog Posted September 17, 2003 Share Posted September 17, 2003 Originally posted by Rabblerouser So let Shanks hold and bring in another punter. Who are we using the third QB spot on now anyway? As illogical as it may sound, Rabble....I'd have said the same thing...last year. But I don't feel Barker warrants criticism for his play so far. And until I see the 'old' Brian Barker, I'm inclined to cut him some slack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabblerouser Posted September 17, 2003 Share Posted September 17, 2003 Tarhog, Well I didn't get the game out here in the mountains but followed it on the internet. Wasn't it in the fourth quarter he had a bad punt and on the next play Johnson threw a 42 yarder for a TD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted September 17, 2003 Share Posted September 17, 2003 Barker kicked that one from the Washington 30 to the Atlanta 32. It was returned for 26 yards. then Johnson threw the TD. Frankly, if Barker had put that ball on the Falcons 2 the only that would have changed was how far farris would have had to run. that was his shortes. His longest was 52, shortest that one for 38. Think he had a couple of 50 yarders there and put 2 inside the 20. Not bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamaskin Posted September 17, 2003 Share Posted September 17, 2003 Let's get the rest of the special teams straightened out before we jump on Barker who is doing a good job. Hall/Coles pickups have been the difference in the first two games so let's give Danny the credit he deserves. Now Spurrier-get on Stock and get some results-pronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarhog Posted September 17, 2003 Share Posted September 17, 2003 Originally posted by Rabblerouser Tarhog, Well I didn't get the game out here in the mountains but followed it on the internet. Wasn't it in the fourth quarter he had a bad punt and on the next play Johnson threw a 42 yarder for a TD? He hasn't out and out shanked one yet. And he's boomed several 50+ yarders. Here's the breakdown. The 15.1 yard return average we're surrendering is the main problem. I also like that Barker's put 3 inside the 20, several inside the 10 yd line. He may well implode, but again, right now, I've got to give him props. NFC Punting Player Team Pnt Yds GAvg NAvg LG TB BLK In 20 Ret RetAvgRetTD Scott Player ARI 8 379 47.4 29.0 64 1 0 1 6 21.2 1 Mitch Berger NO 12 564 47.0 42.3 59 0 0 4 8 7.1 0 Tom Tupa TB 13 602 46.3 38.5 59 1 0 7 7 11.6 0 Todd Sauerbrun CAR 14 620 44.3 37.5 55 2 0 4 8 6.9 0 Jeff Feagles NYG 12 527 43.9 34.9 56 2 0 4 6 11.3 0 Chris Mohr ATL 11 458 41.6 39.4 48 1 0 2 2 2.5 0 Tom Rouen SEA 12 495 41.3 38.1 50 0 0 7 5 7.6 0 Bill Lafleur SF 9 369 41.0 38.6 56 0 0 5 6 3.7 0 Dirk Johnson PHI 15 611 40.7 32.9 56 2 0 2 9 8.6 0 Brad Maynard CHI 12 488 40.7 32.5 48 0 0 4 7 9.3 0 Toby Gowin DAL 12 481 40.1 36.5 51 0 0 1 6 7.2 0 Josh Bidwell GB 9 359 39.9 36.8 54 1 0 2 3 2.7 0 Sean Landeta STL 8 308 38.5 35.9 52 0 0 1 5 4.2 0 Bryan Barker WAS 11 412 37.5 27.8 52 0 0 3 7 15.1 0 John Jett DET 15 559 37.3 34.3 45 1 0 5 6 4.2 0 Eddie Johnson MIN 5 156 31.2 26.4 42 0 0 0 3 8.0 0 Ryan Longwell GB 1 28 28.0 28.0 28 0 0 1 0 0 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted September 17, 2003 Share Posted September 17, 2003 If the kicker loves the punter dont fix it especially when he has earned his dough so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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