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Mickalino

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I never said he was the worst. But, your point is well taken. I said we have the worst QB situation, and I really believe that. We don't even know if we have a legit NFL starter on our roster. Not a good place to be a month before the season kicks off. We'll see. I'm seriously tempering my expectations.

When Grossman signs, he'll be a QB on our roster that's started in a Super Bowl. That would seem pretty legit to me.

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Beck might be better suited for the timing throws than McNabb...the timed medium to short throws...McNabb's deep throws just came from his scrambling and AA getting lost deep past the DBs.....that doesn't take a skilled arm moreso a biding time issue and Beck has much more mobility and Rexy...it could happen. Moving the chains in a WCO was not McNabb's Ike/Matt forte'.

How many times did we see McNabb throw 20yd balls into Cooley's toes......it reminded me of Jay S. If Beck can hit those medium throws it moves the chains and allows our running game to thrive.

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:puke:

Did you go there? What has Romo sits to pee done, other than choke multiple times in the playoffs? I can't believe you went there.

:dallasuck :puke:

What has he done ?

Oh, about 10 times as much as ANY QB we've had in the past 20 years.

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Ah, okay. Are we talking about the same MS who traded a 2nd round pick for washed-up McNabb and suggested that he could be late 90's Elway?

MS isn't perfect.

Hey, you can't do that.

McNabb is already in the analogy.

McNabb plays himself in the analogy, so you can't sub him for someone else.

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I understand what you are saying Mick. Good coaches sometimes find these diamonds in the rough at QB. Some more examples: Walsch, Montana; Gibbs, Rypien; Vermeil, Warner; Belicheck, Brady.

I would not be surprised to see Beck succeed, based on two things: 1) Judging by his BYU days, he has the right skill set for the offense. 2) Shanny believes in him.

This is not to say that I am overly confident in Beck, but I will be rooting for him. He might actually be good. Stranger things have happened.

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With comments like these, I guess its gonna be real quiet in the Stadium if Beck is awarded the starting job. I mean based on some of the comments i've read in the past few days <see above> if Beck can manage to find his way out of the tunnel and actually line up behind center he will have accomplished more than what some of you give him credit for. God forbid he actually completes a few passes or even throws for a TD or two. The way I see it, if some of you have already deemed him as the worst QB in the history of the NFL, well then there won't be much to ***** about if he doesn't perform. Yep, I guess it sure will be quiet around here :cool:

Morning mind officially boggled, what have you ever seen around here that would make you believe that something as trivial as not having the slightest clue would somehow quiet the Eeyores? If anything, Beck succeeding will push them into overdrive to find a way to rationalize their willful negativity. We've seen it before, the less ya know the louder ya say it.

Am I confident? No

Hopeful? Sure

Willing to wait to see what happens? Yeah

Optimistic that Shanny et. al. know more than any of us and will try to deliver instead of some clinically delusional "tank the season" spend-the-mortgage-on-Powerball-tickets plan? I cannot even dignify that with a response.

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Morning mind officially boggled, what have you ever seen around here that would make you believe that something as trivial as not having the slightest clue would somehow quiet the Eeyores? If anything, Beck succeeding will push them into overdrive to find a way to rationalize their willful negativity. We've seen it before, the less ya know the louder ya say it.

Am I confident? No

Hopeful? Sure

Willing to wait to see what happens? Yeah

Optimistic that Shanny et. al. know more than any of us and will try to deliver instead of some clinically delusional "tank the season" spend-the-mortgage-on-Powerball-tickets plan? I cannot even dignify that with a response.

Shhhh, i'm trying to confuse them LD :)

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Time to fan this flame.

Per Tony Romo sits to pee's Wiki page ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Romo ):

Romo sits to pee attended the 2003 NFL Combine, but, despite intriguing some scouts, went undrafted during the 2003 NFL Draft. Throughout the draft, Romo sits to pee was assured by Sean Payton of the Cowboys' interest (Romo sits to pee was also intensely pursued by former Denver Broncos head coach Mike Shanahan),] and shortly afterwards was signed as an undrafted rookie free agent by the Cowboys. Romo sits to pee entered the 2003 training camp third on the Cowboys' depth chart behind Quincy Carter and Chad Hutchinson....and traded a third round draft pick to the Houston Texans for quarterback Drew Henson...After Vinny Testaverde's tenure in Dallas ended in 2005, the Cowboys signed veteran quarterback Drew Bledsoe, the eighth starting quarterback for the Cowboys since 2000.

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Hey, you can't do that.

McNabb is already in the analogy.

McNabb plays himself in the analogy, so you can't sub him for someone else.

I wasn't plugging him into the analogy directly--I was responding to the idea implied in the analogy itself that bases everything off the evaluation skills of MS.

Furthermore, MS has "pursued" plenty of QB's who never started or did anything in the NFL, and he has said quite clearly this week and last week that there is an open competition between Beck and Grossman. Will you bump this thread when Grossman beats out Beck and replace Grossman with Beck in the analogy?

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Time to fan this flame.

Per Tony Romo sits to pee's Wiki page ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Romo ):

More on that, from ESPN Blog :

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4671877/mike-shanahan-failed-to-recruit-tony-Romo sits to pee

Mike Shanahan figures that Tony Romo sits to pee never should have been a Cowboy.

After all, the Broncos offered Romo sits to pee twice as big a signing bonus as the Cowboys did after the quarterback went undrafted out of Eastern Illinois, Shanahan’s alma mater.

Romo sits to pee took a look at the depth charts and decided that he had a better chance to compete for a roster spot with the Cowboys. That trumped the $10,000 difference in signing bonus offers, which seems like chump change now that Romo sits to pee has a $67.5 million contract.

“It just still doesn’t seem right, does it?” Shanahan said. “Just think about it. How devastating would you be, being a head coach and you offer a guy [$20,000] and you are bragging to your coaches that, hey, I have an Eastern Illinois tie. The other guy is offering him [$10,000], but I’m sure I can get him being the head coach, not the position coach, and Sean [Payton] steals him from me.

“I still give him a hard time about that, by the way.”

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What has he done ?

Oh, about 10 times as much as ANY QB we've had in the past 20 years.

So? You couldn't find another topic to discuss...like the similarities between John Beck & naval lint? :doh: Man, I had nightmares all night last night because of you.

:silly:

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Will you bump this thread when Grossman beats out Beck and replace Grossman with Beck in the analogy?

Grossman may well win the preseason competition due to the extremely shortened offseason, and his familiarity with the offense, so I won't be convinced unless Grossman plays well into the regular season. And I'm sure someone will beat me to it, if the thread needs to be bumped.

So? You couldn't find another topic to discuss...like the similarities between John Beck & naval lint? :doh: Man, I had nightmares all night last night because of you.

:silly:

You will thank me, later. When you see what Beck becomes, it will be worth those nightmares.

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Grossman may well win the preseason competition due to the extremely shortened offseason, and his familiarity with the offense, so I won't be convinced unless Grossman plays well into the regular season. And I'm sure someone will beat me to it, if the thread needs to be bumped.

Actually, I'm pretty sure Grossman will win because he's the better QB.

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Has Shanny actually said anything about Beck besides that one time? Is everyone running with Shanny's words from his presser, just as they did when he mentioned conditioning, 2-minute drills, etc? I think Shanny tends to ramble, or not think immediately before he speaks. He's brutally honest, but I think even he knows, he could have worded some things better in the past. Or maybe he doesn't care what people think of his words. In pressers anyway.

What he said was he had Beck rated the highest quarterback in his draft. I believe that. But saying "I think the world of him" seems a bit much, and probably not 100% true. At least not enough for everyone to go proclaiming him the starter. What the Shanny's HAVE said repeatedly is that there will be competition for QB. Rex is way ahead of the game, more experienced overall, and experienced with this offense. It's a no-brainer except Shanny said he 'thinks the world of him'. Well, that's a very nice thing to say when asked about the guy, but it's business.

I guess preseason will be pretty telling this year, and fun to watch. When was the last time QB1 wasn't a sure thing before preseason?

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