Ashburn Dave Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 If he reports and plays hard then I'll root for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destructis Posted July 23, 2011 Author Share Posted July 23, 2011 I have never said he has changed. I am asking the question as a hypothetical. I don't know if he has changed or not. I wanted to know if Skins fans would accept him if he did. It's a legit question. I was asked the same question and I had to think about it before I answered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 I have never said he has changed. I am asking the question as a hypothetical. I don't know if he has changed or not. I wanted to know if Skins fans would accept him if he did. It's a legit question. I was asked the same question and I had to think about it before I answered. I think the mistake being made is in believing that Haynesworth playing hard equates to him having changed or wanting TO change. You said this in the OP: So if Haynesworth comes in this year and is a monster, will all be forgiven?My opinion is that people change, grow and learn. I *think* I would forgive him. My view was that the level of his play alone won't change my views of him...and the apparent selfish motives he is having for wanting to go "balls out" definitely doesn't point to any internal change going on. In reality it's more of the same. Haynesworth has always been "balls out" when he feels it will benefit him. Not the team...him. Not his coach...him. Not the fans...him. Can people change? Of course. Does anything being discussed on Twitter concerning Haynesworth make me think he might be changing? Not in the slightest. If Haynesworth plays balls out this season, will all be forgiven in my eyes? Nope. I'd prefer he play like Reed Doughty but have a sincere change of attitude and appreciation...than play like a Pro Bowler who couldn't give two ****s about the team, his team mates, the fans or the success of the Redskins, and will quit on all of the above whenever he gets a wild hair up his ass to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gutlead74 Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 low character people fold when adversity strikes, football is a game of adversity. if only we could put Lorenzo Alxanders brain in Al's body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dro89 Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 gawd please just do it.. long enough to be sent to denver.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mania Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Lets hope we need to have this convo in December.Hopefully his trade value sky rockets during the season and we can unload him at deadline time You took the words write out of my mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilberMarshall Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Interesting Twitter conversation going on about Haynesworth. JSteelz and LL56 are saying that Albert knows no one wants him but Philly and we won't trade him there so he has to go balls out. So if Haynesworth comes in this year and is a monster, will all be forgiven? My opinion is that people change, grow and learn. I *think* I would forgive him. I firmly feel that respect is earned and not given. So if Haynesworth comes in this year and plays lights out, could you forgive him? Do you think his teamates can? How about the management? It's a big what if, but anything can happen. Albert is incapable of maturing into a MAN. He like Al Bundy is stuck in the Polk High glory days. The folly of youth is that when it is time to make hay you are busy frolicking believing in your own immortality... Has Albert experienced any one incident that will question his immortality? Not yet... We can't want it more than Albert... Albert has to want it for himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gutlead74 Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Albert is incapable of maturing into a MAN. He like Al Bundy is stuck in the Polk High glory days. The folly of youth is that when it is time to make hay you are busy frolicking believing in your own immortality... Has Albert experienced any one incident that will question his immortality? Not yet... We can't want it more than Albert... Albert has to want it for himself. Don't you EVER insult Al Bundy like that!!!! He had 4 touchdowns in one game for Polk High in the city championship game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadExField Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 So, in other words, Haynesworth will once again play hard and give his all when he has a selfish incentive to do so.Before it was because he was in a contract year both of his last two years with the Titans and he wanted a big pay day. Now it's because he wants out of DC and needs to drum up interest from other teams. Pretty much sums it up for me. We need to rid the team of the scum of ghosts past. Starting with AH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polywog999 Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 I hope the next time AH wreaks his car....he becomes road pizza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonoman Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 He is one dumb dude that lucked out.He could have been the best ever and been loved in DC.Change 'Hell no".He is done!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onedrop Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 what the public/fans think is irrelevant. its about what Shanny thinks. has fat al gone too far to be forgiven by his head coach? that is the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildbill1952 Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Shocking to say the least. Who knew Haynesworthless could spell and/or type, much less Twitter? Seriously, people can change. But it usually starts when someone drops their ego and admits they were wrong. As long as Fat Albert thinks he is always right and he keeps the self-centered attitude that it's all about him, he will never change, this year or 20 years from now. I would love to see a humbled, contrite Albert Haynesworth come in, be a model citizen and play his heart out for the Redskins. But Thumper, Bambi and I are all avoiding reality in that scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWFLSkins Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 He's been an absolute ass going back to college. What seriously makes you think he's gona' change and finally mature at 30?Hail. GHH, it is eternal fandom that drives that. The hope that the FA fail of all FA fails could change and dominate they way he should is a powerful koolaid. The only reason AH is acting nice is to get traded to another team and probably trying to go where he wants. I don't think Shanny plays ball and AH falls out again trying to play the victim, he is good at that. His past to recent history does not support a changing persona as you stated. I would root for the guy if he had a podium moment confessing all sins and rededicating himself to the team, but I refuse to buy his sip of koolaid from a tweet. ---------- Post added July-23rd-2011 at 10:46 AM ---------- If he reports and plays hard then I'll root for him. for which team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor 36 Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 He wouldn't have their backs THIS year, either, if this talk on Twitter is accurate. He's not gonna go all out this year because he has his teammates' backs...hell, he doesn't even want to be part of the team. He's not doing it because he's being PAID to do that and it's part of his job responsibilities...and he's not doing it because he's had a "Come to Jesus" moment and understands now. He's only doing it to get "paid" again...this time the payment will be in the form of a trade to another team. He finally realized that his actions have hurt his stock in the league so he's gonna change his attitude--for one year. The fact that his attitude hurt his teammates didn't play into the decision. So to me he's still as much of a selfish S.O.B. as he's ever been. The only difference is that the Skins' defense might benefit from his selfishness this time .. Exactly! Very well said, Cali. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsenic Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 I doubt that all will ever be forgiven.. However, a monster season would remove him from the "Top FA Busts" list, i would hope, slightly fading at least one of the elongated fecal stains from Vinnys BVD's. Thanks for the insufficient wipe, Vin-Dog! Just what this team always needed; a racing stripe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McD5 Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Would love to see him come in and play great next season. But people need to be realistic about how "great" he ever was. He was never going to be elite like a Sapp. But he could be decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clutch03 Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Would love to see him come in and play great next season. But people need to be realistic about how "great" he ever was. He was never going to be elite like a Sapp. But he could be decent. Agreed. I've said it several times. Great players play great PERIOD. No matter what the system is. When Al was asked to do more than what was asked of him at Tenn he folded. It was "too hard". With the kind of money Al was getting we should have gotten a complete player but what we got was a one trick pony. The guy isn't that good. If he ever really decides to play again he will be exposed for the fraud he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Let us not presume that anything Albert Haynesworth says in a public forum holds any merit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONAWARPATH Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Agreed. I've said it several times. Great players play great PERIOD. No matter what the system is. When Al was asked to do more than what was asked of him at Tenn he folded. It was "too hard". With the kind of money Al was getting we should have gotten a complete player but what we got was a one trick pony. The guy isn't that good. If he ever really decides to play again he will be exposed for the fraud he is. Not to hijack the thread but your statement (imo) is incorrect. There are many players who are great in one system but not so great in another. For instance: Joe Montana wouldn't have been the same player in Joe Gibbs' system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoRUSupposed2Be Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I could care less about him as a person... just play ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clutch03 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Not to hijack the thread but your statement (imo) is incorrect.There are many players who are great in one system but not so great in another. For instance: Joe Montana wouldn't have been the same player in Joe Gibbs' system. I agree that he wouldn't have been the same player. But I don't agree that he wouldn't have been great. To me, great players find a way to make it work. In fact, you think Joe Gibbs wouldn't know what to do with Joe Montana? It sounds like your saying that part of Joe Montana's greatness had more to do with him lucking into the right system. I don't buy it but I guess we see it differently and that's ok. Back to the thread. Haynesworth isn't great. If he decided to play and work his tale off we'd be lucky if he's just good. He's overrated, somehow he's been able to convince people he's great but he just isn't. Can't wait to see him go but wouldn't mind him just rotting on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubble Screen Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I had secretly been hoping Detroit would toss a fifth or sixth roundr out there for him, but the reality is that they probably don't want to poison their well, with this rat.Work hard sir, and maybe by week three or four someone will take a chance at you. Al, you shouldn't have taken that check. Detroit has no use for Haynesworth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onedrop Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Detroit has no use for Haynesworth. the EARTH has no use for haynesworth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akorn22 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 im not holding any grudges against haynesworth, and I still want him on the team....he's a scumbag, but so are half the other players in the league. I still think Big Bert will be a huge asset to the team, as long as he tries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.