PeterC042 Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 I love the way this guy thinks. Will Vince Young be Mike Shanahan’s New Jake Plummer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJD2 Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Probably the most convincing arguement I've heard yet for bringing him here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilco_holland Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Yeah bring VY and draft Pryor. The depth charts then would look like VY, McNabb and Pryor...The most amazing QB combo ever, Super Bowl 4 sure. (roll eyes) ...at least it will make a great drama serie. The media will love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boston Skins Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 A lot of people said that Donovan McNabb would be Mike Shanahan's next John Elway. Please... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaper 21 Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 wow i hated the idea till i read that guy maybe im delusional its only 815. but that sounded pretty nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMURedskins Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 A lot of people said that Donovan McNabb would be Mike Shanahan's next John Elway. Please... Shanahan's Elway vs Shanahan's Plummer are 2 completely different things. Young is a lot closer to Plummer than McNabb is to Elway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chump Bailey Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 I would not mind bringing in VY for a 2nd chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botched Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 I'll go out on a limb and say no, he won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RememberOsaka Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 From a fan perspective I'd rather watch a season with Vince Young at the helm than Beck/Grossman. That being said, I trust in Shanahan to make the best decision even after the McNabb debacle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paloosa Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 I don't see it no matter what evidence you bring because of Shanahan not showing his hand. He has Beck and McNabb on his roster as of now with no confirmation of McNabb being let go or traded. It has been all pure speculation by the media that since McNabb was benched that his days in DC are numbered. Now granted, everything points in that direction but so does trading Albert Haynesworth. So what makes everyone think that Vince Young won't go to the bench and pout because he got booed here? Will his confidence be rattled once again? So he deserves a second chance and if he succeeds we will be pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins island connection Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 NO NO & HELL NO! God, when will the idiotic ideas be put on another team's shoulders, for once? Bring him in, and it will be another season in the tank, no improvement, nothing but a waste of money. I guess the idea is to keep mentioning bringing VY here, and at some point the fans will be so worn out ****ing about it that it will not have as bad an effect as it would just popping this out of the blue. Whats he gonna do, sweet-talk AH into playing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audible_Red40 Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 It will be interesting to see what direction we go in. In my best Mike Singletary voice..........."I want winners!! I want people that want to win!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor 36 Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Plummer was nowhere near as immature as VY. Plummer was not a ticking time bomb headcase like VY. Plummer never had to be coddled like VY was his entire career until the very end at Tenn. (In that regards, we already had a VY when Shanahan came here, JC, and he jettison him very quickly). Plummer didn't have a history of off the field issues like VY. Plummer showed potential on a very bad Arizona team, while VY has been very inconsistent on talented Tenn. team. No, I don't see VY being MS's new JP. We already have one headcase on this team from Tenn., I highly doubt that MS is going to want another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetThePointsSoar Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 I've never been thrilled about the idea of VY here simply because as others have stated, I don't think he has thick enough skin to handle the pressures of being a QB in Washington. That being said, I will say that this is at least the most convincing argument I've read on why it could be beneficial to take a flier on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audible_Red40 Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Bring him in, and it will be another season in the tank, no improvement, nothing but a waste of money. I respect your opinion but how do you KNOW this?!?! I mean most that make it can play in this game. They also need to be coached up. The article is just saying look at it the way like Jake Plummer. I bet Bronco fans were saying the same thing as you. The Snake leaves Arizona with a 30-52 W/L record. Goes to Denver and has a 39-15 W/L record. Is that no improvement and a waste of money? Took a chance on a guy and made him into a decent QB. Did they win a SB, no of course not. But they had a chance to win most games. It takes more then just a QB. If they go in this direction, I will trust their judgement, but you can't possibly KNOW it will be a season in the tank. We are a below average team right now, we need all the players we could get to help this team win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lzeis24 Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 I am in no way a VY supporter, but after reading this article, it would make sense. He would come relatively cheap - and I am NOT confident at all with Beck or really Grossman (I hope I'm wrong). The one stat about VY that the writer didn't include is that he is 26-13 as a starter, or something close to that. Last time I checked, that will get the Redskins into the playoffs... I'm not sure what the Redskins will do when the lockout ends, but I hope they address DL and OL first and then go with a ILB and CB. If they can land a WR who won't break the bank - fine. I can't wait until the lockout ends so the Skins can resign some of their guys, then fill some holes in FA. Let's go.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clutch03 Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 I respect your opinion but how do you KNOW this?!?! I mean most that make it can play in this game. They also need to be coached up.The article is just saying look at it the way like Jake Plummer. I bet Bronco fans were saying the same thing as you. The Snake leaves Arizona with a 30-52 W/L record. Goes to Denver and has a 39-15 W/L record. Is that no improvement and a waste of money? Took a chance on a guy and made him into a decent QB. Did they win a SB, no of course not. But they had a chance to win most games. It takes more then just a QB. If they go in this direction, I will trust their judgement, but you can't possibly KNOW it will be a season in the tank. We are a below average team right now, we need all the players we could get to help this team win. I completely agree with this post. How many here were totally against signing Vick prior to the Eagles picking him up? ***Slowly Raising my hand*** How many people would love to have Vick as their QB right now? ***Quickly Raising my hand*** The point is that this is a low risk high reward move. Give him a one year contract similiar to Vick. Have him compete, see if he is a fit. If not you cut him, the same way we cut Larry Johnson, Galloway or Willie Parker. No harm, no foul. We need talent and competition across the board on this team. I just don't understand why we should shy away from anyone who could help the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destructis Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 I don't see it no matter what evidence you bring because of Shanahan not showing his hand. He has Beck and McNabb on his roster as of now with no confirmation of McNabb being let go or traded. It has been all pure speculation by the media that since McNabb was benched that his days in DC are numbered. McNabb is gone one way or the other. He is owed a $10 million bonus after the first game of the season if they keep him. The only way the Skins keep him is if he is the starter and I just don't see that happening. If they sign Young to a reasonable contract with little to no bonus money, incentives are ok, then I am all for it. He still would need to prove himself and make the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckus Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Hook 'Em. Do it. It would be fun to go to the bars here and have everyone pulling for the Skins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbsisgod2006 Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 I thought it was a pretty good article. I wouldn't mind if VY was signed but he would have to know that we would be drafting a QB early in next year's draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Well we do have a recent history of paying players with questionable mental attributes...so nothing would surprise me with this team. That being said, I hope we never have to see VY in B&G. ---------- Post added July-20th-2011 at 09:43 AM ---------- I thought it was a pretty good article. I wouldn't mind if VY was signed but he would have to know that we would be drafting a QB early in next year's draft. The 2012 draft can't get here fast enough IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clutch03 Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Well we do have a recent history of paying players with questionable mental attributes...so nothing would surprise me with this team. That being said, I hope we never have to see VY in B&G. The difference I see is previous cases is that we paid a lot for money for those players with questionable mental attributes. Therefore when we wanted to get rid of them it was almost impossible (see Haynesworth). However if we can get VY for an incentive based contract which is cut friendly then I don't see the problem. As soon as it doesn't seem like it will work out we let him go. It's the low risk part in the whole "Low Risk, High Reward" scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfriedenthal Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 The most important stat that is missing from his article, is the Titan's win percentage with VY starting, vs, when he didn't. He made that team (much) better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 I like Vince Young the toolsy quarterback. But I don't trust Vince Young the professional at all. I'd have mixed feelings about his arrival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
authentic Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 I'm on record for NOT bringing in VY. Still not fully on board at this point...but this guy makes a compelling case. mmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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