Dro89 Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 QB - Peyton Manning RB - Adrian Peterson,DeAngelo Williams, Torain FB - Vontae Leach WR - Andre Johnson,Larry Fitzgerald,Percy Harvin,Brandon Marshall TE - Antonio Gates, Chris Cooley LT - Ryan Clady LG - Logan Mankins C - Maurkice Pouncey RG - Jari Evans RT - Trent Williams RDE - Haloti Ngata NT - Vince Wilfork LDE - BJ Raji LOLB - Terrel Suggs ILB - Ray Lewis ILB - Patrick Willis ROLB - Clay Mathews CB - Darrel Revis,Charles Woodson FS - Ed Reed SS - Troy Polamalu K - Billy Cundiff P - Shane Lechler KR/PR - Devin Hester.. ok now.. this team should get us to the promise land.. try and stop us Lombardi BIIIIIITCHES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Better fit than Rocky IMO, but still question marks. He's physical and has a nose for the ball though. I like Riley and hope he gets a chance, which I'm sure he will. Thanks - I too like Riley. Thing is, is it realistic that they will want to start Riley & Kerrigan from the get-go, with Henson being the primary back-up at ILB. Thats zero careers start between the three. And at the same time, people expect us to have starting Bryant or Nield at NT, Jarvis Jenkins at DE and Barnes at CB. Thats less than 10 career starts amongst the lot of them. I'm not saying thats the wrong way to go, I just have a hard time thinking we go that 'inexperienced'. Maybe we do, but I think something is sure to happen at a combination of the NT,ILB & CB positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrelgreenie Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 FYI DG, Jerrod Johnson signed a UFL contract and will not play in the NFL this year.UFL contracts have an NFL clause that allows them to play in once the UFL season is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tris Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 UFL contracts have an NFL clause that allows them to play in once the UFL season is over. UFL Season ends in October - we'll need a 3rd QB before then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrelgreenie Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 UFL Season ends in October - we'll need a 3rd QB before then.We hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tris Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 We hope. lol, touche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan242 Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 QB - Grossman, J. Beck, RB - Torrain, Helu, Royster FB - Sellers TE - Cooley, Davis, Paulsen WR - Hankerson, Armstrong, Moss, Paul, Austin, Banks LT - T. Williams, Heyer LG - Lichtensteiger C - Montgomery RG - D. Joseph RT - J.Brown, DE - Carriker, J. Jenkins, Haynesworthless, Jarmon, Golston NT - Cullen Jenkins, Neild ILB - Fletcher, Rudd, Alexander, Riley OLB - Orakpo, Kerrigan, Free Agent, C.Wilson CB - Rogers, Hall, Barnes, Gomes SS - Landry, Horton FS - Atogwe, Moore, Doughty K - Gano P - Daniel Sepulveda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldfan Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 UFL Season ends in October - we'll need a 3rd QB before then.Patrick Ramsey ~ knows the scheme, is in great shape, and has learned to throw the fade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpskins10 Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 NT - Cullen Jenkins I've seen this a couple times already in this thread. Jenkins isn't a nose tackle, he's a DE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champskins Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 said it before, Vince Young will be the new starting QB Vonta Leach will be the new starting FB with D. Young behind him Ryan Harris will be the new starting RT Aubrayo Franklin will be the new starting NT with Neild behind him (hoping) Antonio Cromartie will be one of the new starting CB's opposite D. Hall Steve Slaton/DeAngelo Williams (more likely Slaton) will be the vet. RB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tris Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 said it before,Vince Young will be the new starting QB Vonta Leach will be the new starting FB with D. Young behind him Ryan Harris will be the new starting RT Aubrayo Franklin will be the new starting NT with Neild behind him (hoping) Antonio Cromartie will be one of the new starting CB's opposite D. Hall Steve Slaton/DeAngelo Williams (more likely Slaton) will be the vet. RB I honestly can't resist when I see posts like this That's the perfect roster for our 2011 Super Bowl run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Vonta Leach will be the new QB, James Jones will be the new OT, and Bryant McKinney will start at tail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champskins Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 I honestly can't resist when I see posts like this That's the perfect roster for our 2011 Super Bowl run. Its fairly reasonable IMO. We dont go for Asomougha, Cromartie is a perfect option. Vonta Leach and Slaton were with K.Shanahan in Houston... Leach will be expensive but he was a 2010 all pro and Slaton will basically be free and might be able to get back to form in the right system and coaching. Harris is supposedly a given. VY talk is all over the place and I'm one of the few that wants him here. Doubt D. Williams will come here, but he's on the table. We need a quality NT with time on the field, and with all of the tags (Soliai, Ngata) given, A. Franklin is the best option to stand in front of Neild while he develops as long as he's held to a reasonable contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSHRedskins3ATLBraves3 Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Quick question for those of you predicting that Helu will start over Torain. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tris Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Its fairly reasonable IMO. We dont go for Asomougha, Cromartie is a perfect option. Vonta Leach and Slaton were with K.Shanahan in Houston... Leach will be expensive but he was a 2010 all pro and Slaton will basically be free and might be able to get back to form in the right system and coaching. Harris is supposedly a given. VY talk is all over the place and I'm one of the few that wants him here. Doubt D. Williams will come here, but he's on the table. We need a quality NT with time on the field, and with all of the tags (Soliai, Ngata) given, A. Franklin is the best option to stand in front of Neild while he develops as long as he's held to a reasonable contract. Whatever it takes to justify it to yourself, no matter how many mental gymnastics you have to do to get to the conclusion that this time its different. Several things need to be addressed: 1) Cromartie struggles mightily in zone, and doesn't fit with the new culture 2) Why would you pay big money to a FB when we only use a FB 1/3 of the time? 3) Franklin is a 30 year old player who will get a 4-5 year contract worth $30-$35 MM. I thought the era of Madden Football was over with the Redskins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerpSkin Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Unfortunately, I think the thread starter is right about a lot of that... which would mean keeping in tact by FAR the worst performing unit on a very bad team -- the interior OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champskins Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Whatever it takes to justify it to yourself, no matter how many mental gymnastics you have to do to get to the conclusion that this time its different.Several things need to be addressed: 1) Cromartie struggles mightily in zone, and doesn't fit with the new culture 2) Why would you pay big money to a FB when we only use a FB 1/3 of the time? 3) Franklin is a 30 year old player who will get a 4-5 year contract worth $30-$35 MM. I thought the era of Madden Football was over with the Redskins? I agree 100% that we are becoming different in nature with free agent signings and incentive laden contracts. But Atogwe was good cus it was a position of need and Haslett has familiarity. I feel the same about Leach and Slaton, they already know K. Shanahans scheme. Franklin is the best available NT in a dire position of need (after all, its the most important position in the 3-4!) and someone needs to teach Neild the right way. Franklin is the perfect 2-gapper for Jenkins/Jarmon and Carriker to rush. I threw Cromartie in there, but dont see it happening. (id love to see Barnes get a shot) Leach gives a whole new life to our ZBS. Arian Foster would still be unknown if it wasnt for Leach paving the way. If this were Madden, Id say Sign Asomougha, Sign Vjax and Sidney Rice for our first rounders in 2012/2013, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC9 Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 AA - 5'11, 182JJ - 6'1 208 That's about a medium sized reciever in the league AA, as we know, runs somewhere in the mid-4.3s in the 40 *EDIT* my mistake, he ran closer to the mid 4.2s. Yeah, and Banks says he runs a 4.23, and at the combine he ran a 4.43..... I am just asking, who is clocking these 40 times? JJ's highest career YPC average is 14.4, AA had almost a 20 YPC average And James Jones plays behind Donald Driver and Greg Jennings doesn't he? AA is just over a year older than JJ with less tread on his NFL tires. And his season last year (as essentially a rookie) was better than anything Jones has put up in a 4 year career. Again, due to the talent on the Packers roster, Jones is in the 3rd/4th WR spot. And I wouldn't exactly call it "tread," when they are that young, especially at a position like WR, I would call it seasoning. I really have trouble seeing your case for how they are the same type of receiver OR that JJ has more upside than Armstrong. And, like I've said before, I don't even think Armstrong is that good and he'd be better suited to be a slot receiver/3rd option. They are both medium-sized recievers, who run routes pretty well. They aren't the big target, they aren't the small target. I think Jones hasn't got a real shot in Green Bay. They are loaded. Armstrong got more reps/balls thrown his way because we literally had no one left in the cupboard. I am all about his attitude and finding a diamond in the rough, but I don't feel comfy having an arena league WR as our number 1 or number 2 going into the season. Especially without an established threat on the other side. What do you do then? Plus, Shanny put Armstrong on the roster when no one else gave him a shot and no one had even heard of him before camps. In what was possibly the worst free agency year ever. Ever. Like I've said, man, I hope the dude pans out. I like AA, I hope he's here and we use him right, but it's not what I think will happen, and it's very clear that this dude isn't a number one or number two reciever. He would be quiet most games, and got most of his average on the deep ball. But sometimes you have to run other routes to get down the field. In addition, a quick google search of each players' name followed by "route running" shows that Jones is perceived to be a lazy route runner and Armstrong has drawn "rave reviews" during OTAs for his route running skills. So Jones is running the lazy 4th WR routes, which are normally go routes or hooks or outs. Hmmm, got it. And Armstrong is getting praised from a bunch of unsigned draft picks and the whole second string? Or are you talking about last years OTAs? And as I eluded to above, he runs the go route very well...no doubt, but this isn't Jerry Rice we are talking about here. Let's pump the breaks a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tris Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 James Jones reminds me a lot a Antwaan Randle El. A 3rd WR coming off a SB win who is going to get paid like a bad #1/good #2 and stuggle to give production that matches his contract. Also, according to Football Outsiders, James Jones had the highest number of drops/pass of any WR in the NFL (9.8%). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC9 Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 James Jones reminds me a lot a Antwaan Randle El. A 3rd WR coming off a SB win who is going to get paid like a bad #1/good #2 and stuggle to give production that matches his contract. Exept he's bigger, isn't a former quarterback, has two of the better recievers (and an up and comer in Jordy Nelson) in the NFL in front of him, and would be coming to a team with zero experience at WR, right? And yeah, that ball get's slick when it's cold. I think he'll be pretty cheap and has a lot of untapped potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s0crates Posted June 9, 2011 Author Share Posted June 9, 2011 Only real certain change on offense will be at QB. It will likely be Beck but you shouldn't be too surprised if it turns out to be Grossman. Starting RT will likely change to Harris but by the end of the season, I wouldn't be surprised to see a new C. Wouldn't be totally shocked to see us bring in a guard in FA but I don't expect us to unless someone out there is available, cheap and knows the basic system. I expect that Moss will be resigned. Hard to say who will actually start at RB since we may go committee or Torrain may be the primary back the first part and Helu may be phased in. On defense, the biggest change will be that Kerrigan starts but I would not be surprised if Jarvis takes a spot. The only real mystery on defense is at CB opposite Hall, right now I'll say Barnes unless something changes and I could see a big FA acquisition here. Would not be shocked to see Rocky back as the lockout may preclude options here but expect it to be Riley or Henson. I think this is about right. This is impossible. True' date=' but we speculate. RT: Harris, Heyer, Capers RT: R. Harris, Heyer RT Ryan Harris RT Ryan Harris RT -- Ryan Harris Wow. It looks like this is a done deal. Don't tell the Denver fans. RT: J. Brown Wait. What? Who? Thanks - I too like Riley. Thing is' date=' is it realistic that they will want to start Riley & Kerrigan from the get-go, with Henson being the primary back-up at ILB. Thats zero careers start between the three. And at the same time, people expect us to have starting Bryant or Nield at NT, Jarvis Jenkins at DE and Barnes at CB. Thats less than 10 career starts amongst the lot of them.I'm not saying thats the wrong way to go, I just have a hard time thinking we go that 'inexperienced'. Maybe we do, but I think something is sure to happen at a combination of the NT,ILB & CB positions.[/quote'] Maybe we are getting a little carried away with predicting all the rookies will start, but I do see us playing the young guys this year. Quick question for those of you predicting that Helu will start over Torain. Why? Torrain had a couple good games last year, but nothing near the production you want out of your number one back. I know Ryan is the incumbent, but I just think Helu is better. Helu is younger, faster, and a better fit for Shanny's cut-and-go system. Two things: One, our running game was one of the worst in the league last season. Two, Shanny moved up in the draft to pick Helu. I would bet that Helu will be the main guy sooner than later. We will probably have a RBBC approach at first, but Helu will get more and more carries. Unfortunately, I think the thread starter is right about a lot of that... which would mean keeping in tact by FAR the worst performing unit on a very bad team -- the interior OL. No doubt our interior OL struggled last season. Hopefully I am wrong, and B. Allen does make some moves to beef up the offensive front. A few posters in here have mentioned some potential free agent guards, so maybe I am wrong. For example, I might like to see this group: LT - T. Williams, Heyer LG - Montgomery C - Lichtensteiger, Cook RG - D. Jospeh RT - R. Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC9 Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Wow. It looks like this is a done deal. Don't tell the Denver fans Word from my neck of the woods is that he's going to be cut by Denver and he's already got a ticket voucher for Dulles ; ) We'll obviously have to wait and see which rules we are operating under before we pop the cork on the Davin Joseph bottle of wine, but he'll be worth what we pay him if he decides to come up here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameWinner Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 QB - Grossman, J. Beck, Orlovsky or Leinart RB - Torrain, Helu, Royster FB - Sellers TE - Cooley, Davis, Paulsen WR - Moss, Hankerson, Armstrong, Paul, Austin, Banks LT - T. Williams, Heyer LG - Lichtensteiger C - Rabach, Cook RG - Montgomery RT - J.Brown, DE - Carriker, J. Jenkins, Jarmon, Golston NT - Cullen Jenkins, Neild ILB - Fletcher, Riley, Alexander OLB - Orakpo, Kerrigan, Alexander, C.Wilson CB - Hall, Josh Wilson, Barnes, Buchanon, Gomes SS - Landry, Horton, Doughty FS - Atogwe, Moore K - Free Agent, could be Reed, Rayner, Longwell, etc. P - Podlesh McNabb shipped for 4th rounder Hanyesworthless for 5th rounder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinnyskins Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Offense QB: Grossman RB: Torrain and Helu split carries FB: Sellers WR: Moss, Hankerson, Armstrong, Kelly, Paul, Banks TE: Cooley, Davis LT: Williams, Heyer LG: Lichtensteiger, eventually giving way to Hicks C: Rabach eventually giving way to Lichtensteiger RG: D. Joseph, Hicks RT: R. Harris, Capers Defense LE: Carriker, Jarmon NT: Bryant, Neild RE: J. Jenkins, Golston LOLB: Kerrigan, Alexander ILB: Fletcher, Steven Tulloch, Riley, Henson ROLB: Orakpo, CB: Hall, FA (not Ndami), Barnes, Thompson FS Otogwe, Moore, Doughty SS: Landry, Gomes K: gaNOOO!!!!! P: Who cares? Im sure they will suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Quick question for those of you predicting that Helu will start over Torain. Why? Torain is injury prone, Helu is faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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