chaught76 Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 QB - V.Young, Beck, Grossman RB - Torrain, Helu, Williams FB - Young TE - Cooley, Davis, Paulsen WR - Hankerson, Armstrong, Moss, Paul, Austin, Banks LT - T. Williams, Heyer LG - Lichtensteiger C - Rabach RG - D. Joseph RT - J.Brown, R. Harris DE - Carriker, J. Jenkins, Jarmon, Golston NT - Cullen Jenkins, Albert Haynesworth - another season of the drama ILB - Fletcher, Henson, Riley OLB - Orakpo, Kerrigan, Alexander, C.Wilson CB - Nnamdi Asomugha (bargain deal - lol -fingers crossed),Hall, Barnes, Gomes SS - Landry, Horton FS - Atogwe, Moore, Doughty K - Gano P - Daniel Sepulveda I wouldn't be surprised about Young from a player skill set point of view, but I think the move undermines what Allen & Shanahan are trying to build here. Haynesworth is gone, one way or another. I saw a hypothetical trade that sends Haynesworth to Denver or Kyle Orton; which would be a dream come true, but I doubt it happens. Asomugha doesn't fit our defense; I'd rather have Joseph from the Bengals. Cullen Jenkins would be a nice pick up. Just my :2cents:. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel Hog Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Does anyone think James Davis makes the team? I hope so, and I think him, Helu, and Torrain could make for a pretty solid RB corps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmishGangsta Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 I just threw that in for ****s and giggles - haynesworth and Nnamdi Though, some of our resident insiders think they are going to sit Haynesworth on the bench for a year (that might have changed, dunno). I think the skins will be agressive in free agency - look at the cap room we have. I think that roster was pretty realistic (minus Nnamdi - that's just me hoping for that to happen) - and if it did happen, I think Bruce would have a pretty good deal in place (which means it likely won't happen - he'll probably goto Dallas). Whether we like it or not, I think they are going to target QB, lineman, NT and corner in free agency. I just might not have the players right. It's ok to be agressive in free agency, as long as we aren't overspending and giving out 100 million dollar contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sikizler Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Cullen Jenkins would be the answer to a lot of our 3-4 problems from last year. Is there any traction on that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 This is impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC9 Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Um, why bring in James Jones when we already have Anthony Armstrong? He and James Jones are the same type of recievers. I think, if Jones becomes available, he'll make the team over Armstrong, you'll have Shanny's draft picks in Hankerson and Paul, you bring back Moss because he is the veteran and leader of the recieving corp, Banks, because Shanny loves him, and Kelly, because he is the only big guy that we have on the roster. HAIL! ---------- Post added June-6th-2011 at 03:33 PM ---------- WR S. Moss, Hankerson, Paul, Kelly, James Jones, Banks You don't think Anthony Armstrong will make the team? I like Armstrong, I think he has a good head on his shoulders and he plays well, but I just don't see him coming back on to the team. Especially if an upgrade is available out there. That, coupled with the fact that Shanny wants "his guys" in here, it just doesn't look good for him, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Only real certain change on offense will be at QB. It will likely be Beck but you shouldn't be too surprised if it turns out to be Grossman. Starting RT will likely change to Harris but by the end of the season, I wouldn't be surprised to see a new C. Wouldn't be totally shocked to see us bring in a guard in FA but I don't expect us to unless someone out there is available, cheap and knows the basic system. I expect that Moss will be resigned. Hard to say who will actually start at RB since we may go committee or Torrain may be the primary back the first part and Helu may be phased in. On defense, the biggest change will be that Kerrigan starts but I would not be surprised if Jarvis takes a spot. The only real mystery on defense is at CB opposite Hall, right now I'll say Barnes unless something changes and I could see a big FA acquisition here. Would not be shocked to see Rocky back as the lockout may preclude options here but expect it to be Riley or Henson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long n Left Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 QB: Grossman RB: Torrain FB: Young WR: Armstrong, Hankerson TE: Cooley LT: T. Williams LG: D. Joseph C: Lichtensteiger RG: M. Williams RT: J. Brown DE: Jenkins, Carriker NT: Bryant OLB: Orakpo, Kerrigan ILB: Fletcher, Riley CB: Hall, Barnes SS: Landry PS: Atogwe PK: Gano P:??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superozman Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 I like Armstrong, I think he has a good head on his shoulders and he plays well, but I just don't see him coming back on to the team. Especially if an upgrade is available out there. That, coupled with the fact that Shanny wants "his guys" in here, it just doesn't look good for him, unfortunately. Shanahan was the guy that was amazed with Armstrong's play on film, and if i remember right - he said right away "Who's that guy". I would completely consider Armstrong a Shanny guy, and wouldn't be surprised if he got a 3 year deal or something. Not sure what it is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chump Bailey Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Does anyone think James Davis makes the team? I doubt it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champskins Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 QB Young, Beck, Grossman RB Torain, Deangelo Williams, Helu, K. Williams FB Vonta Leach, D. Young TE Cooley, Davis WR S. Moss, Hankerson, Armstrong, Paul, Kelly LT T. Williams LG Lichtensteiger, eventually Montgomery C Rabach, eventually Lichtensteiger RG Capers, Hurt RT Ryan Harris OLB Orakpo, Kerrigan, C. Wilson MLB Fletcher, Riley, Henson, Alexander DE J. Jenkins, Carriker, Haynesworth, Jarmon NT Aubrayo Franklin and Neild rotation CB D. Hall, K. Barnes, J. Joseph FS Atogwe, Gomes SS Landry, Russell K Gano P Kapinos PR Paul KR Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Here are my three questions marks:CB: Of course Deangelo Halls has one spot, but who gets the other? Do we re-sign Rogers, pick up a FA, or stick with what we have? NT: Who plays NT? Hopefully not Haynesworth, but who? Will Chris Nield be able to start? Do we go with Anthony Bryant? Kemoeatu? Maybe a free agent? K: Do we really stick with Gano? Count me as skeptical about him. I have no idea about CB, NT, or K at the moment. I think those positions need to be addressed somehow for sure. But how? CB & NT are question marks for me also. I'd also add ILB. We have Fletcher, who is in his final year, then nothing proven at all. Can't help but think we'll look to bring someone in. Can anyone advise on how / if Barrett Ruud would fit the 3-4? Think we stick with Gano, but read a link to Brad Maynard (Bears) for Punter for what thats worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chump Bailey Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Can anyone advise on how / if Barrett Ruud would fit the 3-4? Better fit than Rocky IMO, but still question marks. He's physical and has a nose for the ball though. I like Riley and hope he gets a chance, which I'm sure he will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enter Apotheosis Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 He and James Jones are the same type of recievers. I think, if Jones becomes available, he'll make the team over Armstrong, you'll have Shanny's draft picks in Hankerson and Paul, you bring back Moss because he is the veteran and leader of the recieving corp, Banks, because Shanny loves him, and Kelly, because he is the only big guy that we have on the roster.I like Armstrong, I think he has a good head on his shoulders and he plays well, but I just don't see him coming back on to the team. Especially if an upgrade is available out there. That, coupled with the fact that Shanny wants "his guys" in here, it just doesn't look good for him, unfortunately. Why? None of what you said here makes any sense to me whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMU Redskin Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 QB: Grossman, Beck RB: Torain, Helu, K. Williams FB: Young WR: Moss, Armstrong, Hankerson, Paul, Robinson TE: Cooley, Davis, Paulsen LT: Williams, Oldenburg LG: Lichtensteiger, Montgomery C: Rabach, Cook RG: D. Joseph, Capers/Hurt RT: R. Harris, Heyer DE: Carriker, Jenkins, P. Daniels, Jarmon NT: Bryant, Kemo, Neild OLB: Orakpo, Kerrigan, Wilson, Jackson ILB: Fletcher, Henson/Riley, Alexander, Blades CB: Hall, Barnes, Buchanan, Westbrook, Thompson SS: Landry, Horton FS: Otogwe, Moore K: Gano P: Someone who sucks KR: Paul PR: Banks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kubstix Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 QB=Dmac.............throws for 5000 yards and 40 TD's with 2 picks. We go on to win the superbowl. CHAMPIONSHIP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC9 Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Shanahan was the guy that was amazed with Armstrong's play on film, and if i remember right - he said right away "Who's that guy". I would completely consider Armstrong a Shanny guy, and wouldn't be surprised if he got a 3 year deal or something. Not sure what it is now. Well, I think it's a little different when you look at last years free agent class and stack it up against actual selections he made in the draft. He'll also have a couple of opportunities to bring in a free agent or two, but I only see one wide reciever that may interest him and it would be more of a supporting cast/up and comer like James Jones. Obviously he's had issues with his hands, but he's gotten better. I would see us being more interested in big men and defensive backs. J. Joseph being one and maybe a Davin Joseph being the other (depending on the rules). It all depends on which FA rules we are working under. And don't get me wrong, I love continuity and would prefer we keep Armstrong, but my gut tells me he's gone. HAIL! ---------- Post added June-6th-2011 at 09:34 PM ---------- Why? None of what you said here makes any sense to me whatsoever. If you look at Shanny's offenses in the past, each of his recievers was a different type. Marshall, Lelie, Royal, Stokely...all different types of dudes. Armstrong and James Jones are the same types of guys. Fast, and medium sized. Jones runs cleaner routes, has more experience/upside, and is bigger than Armstrong. He is an upgrade. Shanny would choose him over Armstrong in a second. And Shanny wouldn't keep two of the same player. Is that a little better? HAIL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Will Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Anybody hear if Jammal Brown has any desire to come back? Or what the team's plans are with regards to him and the RT situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel__44 Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 QB: Beck, Grossman, Devlin RB: Torain, Helu, Williams FB: Sellers, Young TE: Cooley, Davis, Paulson WR: Moss, Armstrong, Hankerson, Paul, Robinson LT: Williams, Oldenberg LG: Steiger, Monty C: Rabach, Monty RG: Joseph, Cook RT: Harris, Heyer, Capers DE: Carricker, Jenkins, Jarmon, Holiday, Daniels NT: Bryant, Neild OLB: Orakpo, Kerrigan, Jackson, White ILB: Fletch, Alexander, Reily, Henson SS: Landry, Doughty FS: Otogwe, Gomes CB: Hall, Johnathon Jospeh, Barnes, Thompson KR/PR: Paul K: Prater P: Paulescu LS: Sunberg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turlockskinsfan Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Offense QB: Beck, Grossman RB: Torain 1A, Helu 1B, Williams, Rookie FA FB: L.Vickers WR: Moss, Hankerson, Armstrong,Paul, Robinson, Austin TE: Cooley, Davis, Paulsen LT: Williams, Capers LG: Lichtensteiger, Hurt C: Rabach, Montgomery RG: FA, Hicks RT: Brown, Capers,Hicks Defense LE: Carriker, J.Jenkins NT: K. Jenkins, Bryant, Neild RE: C. Jenkins, Golston LOLB: Kerrigan, Alexander ILB: Fletcher, Riley, Henson,Alexander ROLB: Orakpo, Wilson, White CB: Hall, J. Joseph, Barnes, Thompson FS Otogwe, Gomes, Moore SS: Landry, Doughty No predictions for the kickers, I just believe there needs to be change. I also think we will stick with Brown as RT because he will see after his play last year that his services won't get him a big LT contract, and I believe that he did improve as the season went on. Gomes' and Alexander's versatility will save us the roster spots needed to carry an extra RB and WR. I just counted and I have one more spot any suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrelgreenie Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 QB: John Beck, FA Dan Orlovosky, rookie: Adam Froman/ Jerrod Johnson RB: Ryan Torain, Roy Helu #2 on a bullet with butterfly wings, Keiland Williams, James Davis FB: Darrell Young, Mike Sellers TE: Chris Cooley, Fred Davis, Logan Paulsen WR: Santana Moss, Anthony Armstrong, Malcolm Kelly, Leonard Hankerson, Terrence Austin, Brandon Banks OL: Trent Williams, Kory Lichtensteiger, FA: Samson Satele, Will Montgomery, RT: FA, Stephon Heyer, Selvish Capers, Oldenburg, Eric Cook Options: Marshall Yanda, Jamaal Brown, Jeremy Trueblood, Jermey Clary, Brandon Dombrowski, Charlie Johnson, Tyler Polumbus DL: Adam Carriker,FA: Justin Bannan, Anthony Bryant, Jeremy Jarmon, Chris Neild, Jarvis Jenkins, Darion Scott LB: (ROLB) Brian Orakpo, (LOLB) Ryan Kerrigan, London Fletcher, Perry Riley, Chris Wilson, Rob Jackson, Robert Henson, Lorenzo Alexander DB: DeAngelo Hall, Kevin Barnes, Chris Houston, Brandyn Thompson, Byron Westbrook S: FA OJ Atogwe, Laron Landry, Reed Doughty, DeJon Gomes Practice Squad: Nile Paul and Aldrick Robertson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tris Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 QB: Rex Grossman?, John Beck, FA?RB: Roy Helu Jr., Ryan Torain, Keiland Willaims FB: Mike Sellers, Darrel Young TE: Chris Cooley, Fred Davis, Logan Paulsen WR: Santana Moss?, Anthony Armstrong, Leonard Hankerson, Terrance Austin, Malcolm Kelly/Niles Paul OT: Trent Williams, Ryan Harris?, Artis Hicks, Selvish Capers OG: Kory Lichtenstiger, Davin Joseph?, Eric Cook C: Interstate 61, Will Montgomery NT: Anthony Bryant, Chris Neild DE: Adam Carriker, Jarvis Jenkins, Vonnie Holliday, Jeremy Jarmon, Darren Scott OLB: Brian Orakpo, Ryan Kerrigan, Rob Jackson, Chris Wilson? ILB: London Fletcher, Perry Riley, Robert Henson, Lorenzo Alexander CB: Deangelo Hall, Kevin Barnes, FA?, Byron Westbrook, Reggie Jones SS: Laron Landry, Reed Doughty FS: OJ Atogwe, Kareem Moore K: Graham Gano/UDFA? P: Sam Paulescu/UDFA? LS: Nick Sundenberg PR/KR: Brandon Banks This was my guess/hope for the 53 made on May 19th. Players with ?'s by their name are not currently under contract. ---------- Post added June-7th-2011 at 10:08 AM ---------- FYI DG, Jerrod Johnson signed a UFL contract and will not play in the NFL this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpskins10 Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 If you look at Shanny's offenses in the past, each of his recievers was a different type. Marshall, Lelie, Royal, Stokely...all different types of dudes. Armstrong and James Jones are the same types of guys. Fast, and medium sized. Jones runs cleaner routes, has more experience/upside, and is bigger than Armstrong. He is an upgrade. Shanny would choose him over Armstrong in a second. And Shanny wouldn't keep two of the same player. Is that a little better? HAIL! AA - 5'11, 182 JJ - 6'1 208 AA, as we know, runs somewhere in the mid-4.3s in the 40 *EDIT* my mistake, he ran closer to the mid 4.2s. JJ has run between 4.54 to 4.59 JJ's highest career YPC average is 14.4, AA had almost a 20 YPC average AA is just over a year older than JJ with less tread on his NFL tires. And his season last year (as essentially a rookie) was better than anything Jones has put up in a 4 year career. I really have trouble seeing your case for how they are the same type of receiver OR that JJ has more upside than Armstrong. And, like I've said before, I don't even think Armstrong is that good and he'd be better suited to be a slot receiver/3rd option. Plus, Shanny put Armstrong on the roster when no one else gave him a shot and no one had even heard of him before camps. In addition, a quick google search of each players' name followed by "route running" shows that Jones is perceived to be a lazy route runner and Armstrong has drawn "rave reviews" during OTAs for his route running skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grhqofb5 Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 LT: TrentLG: Lichtensteiger C: Remains Rabach, despite fans clamoring for his head. Call it a hunch. RG: Montgomery RT: Brown is out. We sign free agent Ryan Harris, who Shanny drafted in Denver. Man, this brings tears to my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaper 21 Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 John Beck Torain Helu Royster Darrell Young Armstrong Hankerson Robinson Paul Austin Cooley Davis Paulson Trent Heyer Corey ? Rabach Cook Montgomery Hurt Capers ? Carriker jarmon Bryant Neild Jenkins Gholston Kerrigan Jackson Fletcher Riley Henson Blades Orakpo Wilson Hall (FA signing) Barnes Westbrook Gomes OJ. Moore Landry Harris Daughtry Gano Preliscu KR Paul Banks Banks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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