Howie411 Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 So each year I ask if there is green parking available and each year I'm told no and there is a long waiting list for it. Last week I got an email asking me if I wanted to upgrade to Club seats and Orange parking. If I did and decided to move back to the UL after the 2011-2012 season I would be guaranteed Green Parking for the 2012-2013 season. So let me get this straight, they can guarantee I will be able to get Green parking in 2012-2013 even though Green is sold out and there is a huge waiting list? Just another lie from the Redskins..... like their huge season ticket waiting list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCsportsfan53 Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 You could have just stopped at "Redskins lie". Everyone around here pretty much knows the ticket office is a lying, cheating, scamming group that will tell you anything in order for you to purchase tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonnyandSam Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 It's not a lie. By buying club seats, you jump to the front of the green parking wait list. There is always turnover; people do not renew seats and their parking passes each season. Right now there is no green parking for you because you are so far back on the list. Paying Danny a little extra cash for club seats moves you to the front of the line. Is that really so hard to understand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOF44 Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Man going for the cheap offer to get people to buy clubs. A Green pass when you go back to the upper level??? Gee Thanks. I'd need sideline lowers to even consider it. Green passes were available to add to your account on draft day. I know 2 people that added them and were not on any waiting list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky21 Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 You gotta pay to play with this TO. The days of free upgrades are a thing of the past (and there really was a small window then) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsCrushCowboys Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 they will not get any of my money, neither will NFL merchandising. If they (both sides) keep this **** up, don;t worry there will be plenty of parking available, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j23 Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 SonnyandSam....have you checked your account today to see if you got upgraded yet? i know yesterday you mentioned in another post that your seats were gone....just wondering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Going to a Redskins game is not worth the money spent. ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky21 Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Going to a Redskins game is not worth the money spent.~Bang Ouch.It was not too long ago that this phrase would have been unimaginable. Here are a few quotes on the hypercommercialism surrounding the game day experience. "He's turned the Redskins into a cash machine. And the result is a completely soulless, corporate product." - Dan Kaplan, finance editor at The Sports Business Journal. "The priority is it's all about me. I have to have my needs met, then I want to make money, and those are one and two, and then I want to win. You can see by the decisions that are made....” – John Riggins “The issue is not the team's performance on the field, dismal as that is. It is the culture created by the owner--one of greed, expediency, and mean-spiritedness. The general atmosphere around the team suggests Zimbabwe--a failed state, an intractable dictator, and an impotent and suffering populace.” – Steve Coll, two time Pulitzer prize winner "Snyder is great at the business side of the Redskins but the exact opposite when it comes to the football operations side." – Mike Wilbon “[snyder] commercialized the Redskins like my father would have never commercialized the Redskins.” – John Kent Cooke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonnyandSam Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 SonnyandSam....have you checked your account today to see if you got upgraded yet? i know yesterday you mentioned in another post that your seats were gone....just wondering Nothing new today. All my account shows are my green parking passes and the $25 shipping charge. someone else posted their account looks the same. ---------- Post added June-1st-2011 at 01:28 PM ---------- rocky21 posted You gotta pay to play with this TO. The days of free upgrades are a thing of the past (and there really was a small window then) Now that's not true. Starting last year LOTS of STHs got free upgrades as part of the auto upgrade program. For the most part, people are getting upgraded based on seniority and paying on time....although we are seeing some exceptions this year. LOTS of us went from the upper deck last year to the lower deck and we had to pay nothing other than the increased ticket costs. In the past you had to buy a tailgate pass or TD club membership to move downstairs; or sign up for 3-5 years in the club level first. My LL tickets are in the processed of being upgraded as I type this as are other LL STHs. I expect people will be posting their FREE upgrades in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stugein Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 I have 2 GAs and 2 Clubs so I currently have Orange parking. My worry is that in a couple years when my Club contract runs out and I have 4 GAs and no clubs, that I'll be busted down to copper or grey or something instead of Green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stwasm Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 they will not get any of my money, neither will NFL merchandising. If they (both sides) keep this **** up, don;t worry there will be plenty of parking available, I haven't given them nor the NFL a cent since I gave up my seats after the '08 season. Going to a Redskins game is not worth the money spent.~Bang That pretty much sums it up. I never thought I'd see the day. Ouch.It was not too long ago that this phrase would have been unimaginable. Here are a few quotes on the hypercommercialism surrounding the game day experience. "He's turned the Redskins into a cash machine. And the result is a completely soulless, corporate product." - Dan Kaplan, finance editor at The Sports Business Journal. "The priority is it's all about me. I have to have my needs met, then I want to make money, and those are one and two, and then I want to win. You can see by the decisions that are made....” – John Riggins “The issue is not the team's performance on the field, dismal as that is. It is the culture created by the owner--one of greed, expediency, and mean-spiritedness. The general atmosphere around the team suggests Zimbabwe--a failed state, an intractable dictator, and an impotent and suffering populace.” – Steve Coll, two time Pulitzer prize winner "Snyder is great at the business side of the Redskins but the exact opposite when it comes to the football operations side." – Mike Wilbon “[snyder] commercialized the Redskins like my father would have never commercialized the Redskins.” – John Kent Cooke It's why I'm a "former" Skins season-ticket holder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonnyandSam Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Have you discussed this with your premium seat ticket agent? Maybe there is something he or she can do for you while the Skins are hurting for STHs. Perhaps just promising to keep all four GA tickets you can get a rider/addendum to your club seat contract promising a downgrade from orange to green. Worse case, I would think if you were willing to exted your club seat contract for one year, they could throw in the green parking pass when your contract ends. Be creative. Sounds like the premium seat agents have a little more leeway to sign/maintain customers. Remind him/her what a great customer you have been and always paid your bill on time, etc. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss_Hogg Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 We have a green pass, but sometimes the parking attendants let everyone in our lot, green pass or not. So it does not really matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFKFedEx Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Here's my take on the history of parking at the Stadium in Landover. Feel free to add or debate the data. Some of the years may be off. 1997: JKC Stadium opens with enough onsite parking for permit holders and cash parking. Prepaid permit holders get to park in the paved lots near the stadium while cash paying patrons must use the more distant church lots and gravel fields, but all parking is within walking distance of the building. Premium seat holders are afforded closer spots than GA STHs. Parking now costs $15, up $5 from the previous year at RFK. Season passes are $250, no single game sales. 1999. It was too late in May of 1999 for Snyder to rearrange parking permits, season ticket packages, team roster, stadium name etc. Parking remains unchanged from the Cooke administration's policy for one more season, still $15 cash or prepaid permit. 2000: Stadium parking is raised to $250 per season. Each stadium parking lot is recoded i.e. purple, orange, green, etc. All cash parking is relocated to satellite lots across the Beltway. Shuttle buses rides with lengthy lines are now required for all cash parking patrons. Pedestrian access points into the stadium grounds are blocked to prevent competition from nearby private cash lots in the name of "fan safety". The PGPD and MD State Police enforce the new rules. A waiting list for permit parking at the stadium begins in the TO. GA patrons are told that wait times "may" be in the 3-5 year range due to all of the stadium lots being sold to capacity with little turnover from year to year. 2003: I joined the parking permit waitlist. There is no way to identify one's place or status on the list according to the TO. The numbers are not made public at this time. 2005: Metro rail opens a stop w/ in one mile of the stadium. Parking demand takes a hit. 2006: All parking is raised to $350 per season. I finally get offered blue parking, but I declined bc I didn't need it. Green parking I was told would still be a few years away, and unobtainable if I didn't purchase blue. It was at that time I joined ES and began sharing observations with other members. Still no way to tell where you are on the green parking waitlist. 2007: The TO calls me to offer blue or red parking, but I decline once again deeming the cost not worth it. Evidence is mounting among conspiracy theorists that stadium parking is not sold out, rather supply is capped to maintain demand or create demand for premium parking which is immediately available. 2008: The Great Green Give Away. In July, Several ES members report that suddenly any GA STHr can call in and obtain green parking regardless of waiting list status or current lot assignment. It actually worked for many of us, myself included. The fun stops after a few days. 2009: Any STH can now call in and get red or blue parking. Those who hold out renewal of STs till spring and summer have a good chance of getting green parking, though many TO agents still hold to claims of a "waiting list". To expand parking capacity, the team purchases nearby land to create a new stadium lot classified as gray parking, reserved for permit holders only. The gray lots are gravel and distant walk, but the team holds on to the claim of it being onsite parking despite being further than any other lot. 2010: Cash parking at the stadium returns after a decade hiatus. Satellite lots and long shuttle bus rides become a thing of the past. I'm unsure of who owns the cash lots today, but the team acknowledges their presence on maps, street signs, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam@section118 Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Going to a Redskins game is not worth the money spent.~Bang Five years ago I would have been furius at this comment. Now I could not agree more. Going to one or two games a year is fine, but even then you know it is goingto be a hell of an expensive day. A shame, but I bet winning cure's this a little bit (though I still argue you can replace Redskins with NFL and the statement is still accurate) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonnyandSam Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 No doubt that the cache of becoming a season ticket holder wears off after 5-10 years when the team is not winning. There would be a lot less anger if the Redskins looked more like the Colts or the Patriots over the past decade. I always find some of the complaints made by folks on ES are not complaints by fans of winning franchises. A lot of stuff that Snyder/Skins do are done by most other NFL teams. Of course, there are also the signature Snyder screwups that none or almost none of the other teams do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkabong82 Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 So each year I ask if there is green parking available and each year I'm told no and there is a long waiting list for it. Last week I got an email asking me if I wanted to upgrade to Club seats and Orange parking. If I did and decided to move back to the UL after the 2011-2012 season I would be guaranteed Green Parking for the 2012-2013 season.So let me get this straight, they can guarantee I will be able to get Green parking in 2012-2013 even though Green is sold out and there is a huge waiting list? Just another lie from the Redskins..... like their huge season ticket waiting list. Club seats get preferential treatment since they are so hard to sell. There is a season ticket waiting list, unless you are getting club level. Try and get season tickets right now anywhere else but club level, let me know how that goes. And, if there isn't actually a long waiting list then they aren't filling GA seats, so why would they tell people those seats are unavailable if they were? Just to create the illusion of a filled stadium and high demand, foregoing thousands of dollars a year, per person, in the process? That doesn't sound like the greedy, money-grubbing Snyder constantly referenced on ES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam@section118 Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 No doubt that the cache of becoming a season ticket holder wears off after 5-10 years when the team is not winning. There would be a lot less anger if the Redskins looked more like the Colts or the Patriots over the past decade. I always find some of the complaints made by folks on ES are not complaints by fans of winning franchises. A lot of stuff that Snyder/Skins do are done by most other NFL teams. Of course, there are also the signature Snyder screwups that none or almost none of the other teams do. I agree, but I would argue regardless of who you root for the cost of attending a NFL game is getting more and more outrageous (and even not just NFL games, but entertainment in general. But that is a story for another day) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkabong82 Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 No doubt that the cache of becoming a season ticket holder wears off after 5-10 years when the team is not winning. There would be a lot less anger if the Redskins looked more like the Colts or the Patriots over the past decade. I always find some of the complaints made by folks on ES are not complaints by fans of winning franchises. A lot of stuff that Snyder/Skins do are done by most other NFL teams. Of course, there are also the signature Snyder screwups that none or almost none of the other teams do. like charging for training camp once upon a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuppajones Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Club seats get preferential treatment since they are so hard to sell. There is a season ticket waiting list, unless you are getting club level. Try and get season tickets right now anywhere else but club level, let me know how that goes.And, if there isn't actually a long waiting list then they aren't filling GA seats, so why would they tell people those seats are unavailable if they were? Just to create the illusion of a filled stadium and high demand, foregoing thousands of dollars a year, per person, in the process? That doesn't sound like the greedy, money-grubbing Snyder constantly referenced on ES. Dude there is no waiting list, anyone can call the ticket office and sign up for season tickets. Not club level, GA tickets. Why do you think Snyder is taking out thousands of upper level seats? Because he cannot sell them, that's why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Janky Spanky Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 They lie about almost everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Dude there is no waiting list, anyone can call the ticket office and sign up for season tickets. Not club level, GA tickets. Why do you think Snyder is taking out thousands of upper level seats? Because he cannot sell them, that's why. im really tempted to call them next week and see if that is true. id definitely buy season tickets in the nosebleeds up top as long as they were between the 25s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cool as Crud Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 im really tempted to call them next week and see if that is true. id definitely buy season tickets in the nosebleeds up top as long as they were between the 25s. Why wait til next week? Give it a shot and let us know how it goes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horatio Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 You could have just stopped at "Redskins lie". Everyone around here pretty much knows the ticket office is a lying, cheating, scamming group that will tell you anything in order for you to purchase tickets. Whaddaya expect from a team that's owner by a guy who forged signatures and got nailed by the FBI for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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