Est.1974 Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Shanny isn't and hasn't been enamored with Beck.Mike shanahan made a comment that he had faith ect in Beck and people have taken and ran with it. Mike should have confidence in any player currently on the roster and Beck is the only qb on the roster at them moment.Beck will have a shot to compete like every other player in camp. Whilst he might not be enamored with Beck, it is easy to see why this story has ran. To be fair, ``everything you look for in a quarterback'' is quite a statement. Maybe Mike was just stiring the pot :whoknows: http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/redskins/2011/04/shanahan-beck-i-think-world-him Shanahan said... “He has everything you look for in a quarterback. No. 1 you have to love the game, you have to have the mindset. What I’m looking for is a guy first to work and last to leave. You’ve got to be able to run this offense at a very high level. He can do things with his legs that a lot of quarterbacks can’t do.”“I have a lot of confidence in John Beck,” Shanahan said. “I think the world of him.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derskinsfan Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 The more i think about it, the more i think Beck might be the smartest QB choice to make this season. Why? 1) We're not close, so there is little downside in starting him in a transitional year. 2) He sounds like an overachiever. I think the fan base can get behind that. It's better than a talented underachiever, which we have seen far too much of the past 10 years. 3) If he does okay or better, great. Maybe it gives us some options next offseason to trade him, start him until a young QB is really ready, etc. If he stinks, so what? We draft a blue chip QB next season like everyone expects anyway. 4) Given the labor situation, he may be our best option. A new guy will need to learn the system. Hasselbeck, Young, Kolb, all of these guys will come in handicapped and will be set up to disappoint. It's a bad time to be signing a vet QB and expect him to step right in. In short, I have no reason to believe Beck will set the world on fire. I have no expectations other than he sounds like a maximum effort guy who will try hard. He may surprise, or he may be exactly what we think he is — a nobody, a career backup. But the point is I don't think he can disappoint — which is exactly what we need for right now. Sets the right expectations for everyone this season at the most important position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouvan59 Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Beck can say all the right things and act like a starter but it is coincidence that he has been with two other clubs before coming to DC. . Why don't you ask Rich Gannon, Trent Green, Kurt Warner, or Len Dawson? Not saying that Beck will be as good as any of these guys but there are plenty of examples of guys not getting their chance until a little later but succeeding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 The more i think about it, the more i think Beck might be the smartest QB choice to make this season. Why?1) We're not close, so there is little downside in starting him in a transitional year. 2) He sounds like an overachiever. I think the fan base can get behind that. It's better than a talented underachiever, which we have seen far too much of the past 10 years. 3) If he does okay or better, great. Maybe it gives us some options next offseason to trade him, start him until a young QB is really ready, etc. If he stinks, so what? We draft a blue chip QB next season like everyone expects anyway. 4) Given the labor situation, he may be our best option. A new guy will need to learn the system. Hasselbeck, Young, Kolb, all of these guys will come in handicapped and will be set up to disappoint. It's a bad time to be signing a vet QB and expect him to step right in. In short, I have no reason to believe Beck will set the world on fire. I have no expectations other than he sounds like a maximum effort guy who will try hard. He may surprise, or he may be exactly what we think he is — a nobody, a career backup. But the point is I don't think he can disappoint — which is exactly what we need for right now. Sets the right expectations for everyone this season at the most important position. I like this. We win with him, its a great thing. We lose with him, we "hate" him and the coaches the entire season and then rejoice when we draft a top-5 or top-10 QB next offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWFLSkins Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Why don't you ask Rich Gannon, Trent Green, Kurt Warner, or Len Dawson? Not saying that Beck will be as good as any of these guys but there are plenty of examples of guys not getting their chance until a little later but succeeding. OR Doug Williams, USFL and the Bucs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavarleap56 Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Whilst he might not be enamored with Beck' date=' it is easy to see why this story has ran. To be fair, ``everything you look for in a quarterback'' is quite a statement. Maybe Mike was just stiring the pot :whoknows: [url']http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/redskins/2011/04/shanahan-beck-i-think-world-him[/url] I agree with all of that pretty much. Mike shanahan has not told john Beck he will be the starting qb. I'm just trying to get the right info out that's all. John Beck could win the job in camp and then he deserves a shot. Right now he is the only qb on the roster who will be here so hope he makes the best of his oppurtunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Redskins Fan Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Please let this lockout end soon please God please...beck starting is not a good thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Please let this lockout end soonplease God please...beck starting is not a good thing Compared to what alternative, that is only feasible without a lockout? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKM311 Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Compared to what alternative, that is only feasible without a lockout? Competition. With VY, Bulger, or Hass (insider info on targets). If he can't beat out an aging vet or QB with documented issues, he is no where close to being a starter in this league. I am glad we have someone like him, but to expect anything from him at this point is praying. Could he prove us wrong? Yes. But lets be real here, it is a long shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 I'm just trying to get the right info out that's all. I appreciate that Everyone is making the right noises at the moment. Shame it's gonna take weeks, maybe months, to find out how this situation will eventually unfold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Redskins Fan Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Compared to what alternative, that is only feasible without a lockout? even though i know this upcoming seaons is goign to bleak and any skins fan is kidding themselves if they think it will be not. Beck starting is going to compound a bleaker situation. Bring in someone to compete with him at least and let see If beck is phony tough (which i beleive wholeheartdely ) or crazy brave. Beck had the keys in Miami and failed..nothing make me beleive he will do otherwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 even though i know this upcoming seaons is goign to bleak and any skins fan is kidding themselves if they think it will be not.Beck starting is going to compound a bleaker situation. Bring in someone to compete with him at least and let see If beck is phony tough (which i beleive wholeheartdely ) or crazy brave. Beck had the keys in Miami and failed..nothing make me beleive he will do otherwise I think no matter what happens with the lockout, he'll be competing with whoever's here. And I just want to point out: He "failed" when given the keys in Miami, in his first four games as a rookie, on one of the worst teams in the history of the league. Those are some extenuating circumstances. He hasn't really gotten another chance till now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKM311 Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 I think no matter what happens with the lockout, he'll be competing with whoever's here.And I just want to point out: He "failed" when given the keys in Miami, in his first four games as a rookie, on one of the worst teams in the history of the league. Those are some extenuating circumstances. He hasn't really gotten another chance till now. What are you expecting from him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Fan Standing Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 Competition. With VY, Bulger, or Hass (insider info on targets).If he can't beat out an aging vet or QB with documented issues, he is no where close to being a starter in this league. We could always bring in another QB who doesn't start from day 1 but after some time learning the offense replaces Beck later in the season. We won't go into next season without a couple of QBs on the roster so someone new is coming in to challenge Beck, unless we re-sign Rex. But considering that Beck has had a year in this offense and that the lockout is going to leave the new QB(s) with limited time to digest the offense, if Beck isn't the week 1 starter then that tells me everything I need to know about the rest of his NFL career. Unless Rex comes back it's Beck's job to lose. Which may very well happen as the season progresses, but if it happens BEFORE the season starts, that's a strong indictment on his abilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GibbsFactor Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 He just killed it on LaVar and Dukes. Then handed the phone off to Leonard Hankerson, completely unexpectedly. They are in San Diego working out.h Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 What are you expecting from him? I'm not really sure that I've decided on any concrete expectations at this point. That's kind of the whole idea: that no one, anywhere, has seen enough of this guy in the NFL to guess what he might do if he earns the starting job. ---------- Post added May-17th-2011 at 06:28 PM ---------- He just killed it on LaVar and Dukes. Then handed the phone off to Leonard Hankerson, completely unexpectedly. They are in San Diego working out.h That's pretty sweet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MumboSauce Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 All the talk is great, it sounds good. but can he play? Remains to be seen. Whatever the coaches roll with...I hope it works out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADF Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 I'd feel better about Beck if there wasn't a lockout. He doesn't have a ton of experience in this offense (or in general). He was added about five days after training camp began last year. Once the regular season starts, the second string QB doesn't get a lot of reps. So, I can only imagine what a third string guy like Beck gets. OTAs and mini-camps could have done wonders for him. The longer this lockout lasts, the fewer opportunities Beck (and any QB we bring in through FA) will have to get acclimated. Our QB situation is a mess either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskindan07 Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 I am holding out hope for matt hasselbeck for 2 years and then a drafted QB in next years draft to lead us forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrelgreenie Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 All the talk is great, it sounds good. but can he play? Remains to be seen. Whatever the coaches roll with...I hope it works out.I know right?I think John Beck can be good QB, but man I wish he would stop talking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacePenguin Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 People are crazy, getting upset about Beck possibly starting at QB. I can understand why, but normally when our QBs fall apart, they cost us draft picks or big money. John Beck? Try Doug Dutch lol.....honestly if Beck's even remotely mediocre, we come out ahead. If he's the worst QB we've had in a decade, what does it matter? Its a win win situation for a rebuilding team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre The Giant Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 The more i think about it, the more i think Beck might be the smartest QB choice to make this season. Why?1) We're not close, so there is little downside in starting him in a transitional year. 2) He sounds like an overachiever. I think the fan base can get behind that. It's better than a talented underachiever, which we have seen far too much of the past 10 years. 3) If he does okay or better, great. Maybe it gives us some options next offseason to trade him, start him until a young QB is really ready, etc. If he stinks, so what? We draft a blue chip QB next season like everyone expects anyway. 4) Given the labor situation, he may be our best option. A new guy will need to learn the system. Hasselbeck, Young, Kolb, all of these guys will come in handicapped and will be set up to disappoint. It's a bad time to be signing a vet QB and expect him to step right in. In short, I have no reason to believe Beck will set the world on fire. I have no expectations other than he sounds like a maximum effort guy who will try hard. He may surprise, or he may be exactly what we think he is — a nobody, a career backup. But the point is I don't think he can disappoint — which is exactly what we need for right now. Sets the right expectations for everyone this season at the most important position. Great post ... totally agree. Skins need more of this long-term thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Was anybody else bothered by Beck's "me first" statements in the Sirius interview? Basically he said he's glad McNabb failed because it gives him a chance to start. In other words, who cares if the team's quarterback - and by extension, the team - fails, as long as that gives me a shot. It just sounded like a real selfish statement, and the attitude of a loser who can't win the job on his own merits, but must hope for the failure of others.. Even if you THINK that there are better ways to say it. Here's what he said" "I have to say I'm glad it happened," Beck said of McNabb's demotion. "If I want my opportunity, I have to have stuff like this happen so I can get an opportunity. If McNabb stays as starter of the Washington Redskins, I remain a backup, and I want to be a starter. So, I have to hope for things like this to happen." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowhunter Posted May 18, 2011 Author Share Posted May 18, 2011 No, that didn't upset me at all. He was responding to a question about McNabb, he didn't bring up the topic. I think he gave the answer he should have given Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 No, that didn't upset me at all. He was responding to a question about McNabb, he didn't bring up the topic. I think he gave the answer he should have given I really disagree. Though I want every player on my team always burning to play, I don't want them openly cheering the misfortune of their teammates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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