drtdrums Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 I simply do not understand how anyone could believe that any CODMW or BO is superior in any fashion to BC2, at least multiplayer-wise. BC2 eats CoD's lunch in so many ways. 1. Balanced gameplay 2. Superior game types (CoD has nothing that can compare to the intensity of Rush, and Conquest beats CTF any day of the week) 3. Vehicles (that are also balanced) 4. Camo that works 5. Massive maps that require tactical play 6. More realistic weapon/character physics 7. No lame killstreak crap 8. Destructible environments (and the tactical mayhem they cause -- it's not just about blowing stuff up, although that's great, too) 9. Squad-based play!!! CoD will never be able to match DICE on this. Things CoD has that BF doesn't: 1. It's easier (more forgiving). I guess that can be a good thing. 2. Killstreaks. If you're into that sort of thing (ugh). 3. This is the only thing I think BO is amazing for: Theater Mode. 4. Training Mode 5. Zombies 6. More customizable characters Things I don't like about BC2: 1. No theater mode 2. Lack of squad mute button for those games with randoms that need to do their homework 3. That I can't fly a chopper. That's on me, though. God, I suck. Things I don't like about BOPS: 1. Instaknife 2. Spray and pray actually works 3. Killstreaks ruin entire rounds 4. Horrible maps (imho...I hate Nuke more than I care to mention, and that's just for starters) 5. I got dropped waaaaaaaaaaaay too often. I get dropped about one match in 30 or so in BC2. It was around 1 in 3 for BOPS. 6. People think KDR is all that matters. All that being said, zombies were fun for a couple of days. I understand why a certain type of gamer is drawn to CoD. I really do. I enjoy it (on a 5/10 level or so). A little mindless killing never hurt anyone. But for any serious, objective gamer to try to argue that CoD has been and will continue to be superior after BC2 either hasn't played BC2 or simply has no interest in the completely different paradigm that DICE has created. Never mind the fact that BF2 changed the FPS genre forever. DICE is the only studio I have complete faith in to deliver on this much hype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins_Fan82 Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 Yeah, i'm pretty sure I'll be buying both. And even though we only have a single player trailer right now, i'm sure with the new engine that Battlefield 3 will look a lot better than Battlefield 2... Oh, that's one thing you definitely have to give to Black Ops. Theater mode is by far the coolest new tool to come to FPS games in the last 5 years. How many epic games did you have in MW2 and other games where you said to yourself "man, if only i could get a recording of that and share it with friends." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtdrums Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 Yeah, i'm pretty sure I'll be buying both. And even though we only have a single player trailer right now, i'm sure with the new engine that Battlefield 3 will look a lot better than Battlefield 2...Oh, that's one thing you definitely have to give to Black Ops. Theater mode is by far the coolest new tool to come to FPS games in the last 5 years. How many epic games did you have in MW2 and other games where you said to yourself "man, if only i could get a recording of that and share it with friends." Yeah, I'd give anything to have a few clips from BC2. Especially the one where I had a Cav vehicle bearing down on me and couldn't get out of the way. I was out of ammo in my assault rifle. Switched to pistol, killed the driver through the windshield and hit O. I was suddenly driving the jeep that was bound to run over me two seconds before. I also got a good chuckle last night when two guys bailed out of a Heli I was pouring bullets into from my tank. As my machine gun cooled down, I thought, "Eh, why not?" Fired the main turret and killed one of the parachuters mid-air from about 200 yards away. Given the gravity drop on the shell and the fact that the 'chuter was drifting right to left on my screen, I gotta put the shot up there with my marksman headshot +171 on a full-speed jetski rider. Both were crap luck, but I'll take'em. Would love to have vids of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty dread Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 I'll believe it when I see it. So far every "COD Killer" that came out has fell flat on it's face. It will be no different with BF3 as well minus the falling flat on it's face. BF is definitely a really popular game, change of pace, vehicular manslaughter, fun type of game. But it's no COD and never will be. And that's a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kubstix Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 I simply do not understand how anyone could believe that any CODMW or BO is superior in any fashion to BC2, at least multiplayer-wise. BC2 eats CoD's lunch in so many ways. Your in the rare minority who thinks so. I'm not attacking you personally but the people who don't like any COD are the people who are absolutely garbage at it. You can be an 80 year old man picking up his first controller ever and do work in BF2. You can't in COD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticksboi05 Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 Sure, if you like run and gun, smaller maps, and static environments.I think COD will always be wildly popular. But... the BF franchise offers a legit alternative to those that are tired of the same old from COD, and I think with BF3 they have a real shot at stealing away some gamers. How man FPS's can you play? I mean really, they're all almost the same no matter how much you say they aren't. Since Goldeneye, console FPS's have been beaten to death. I mean they're fun, I have COD but damn, gotta break out of the genre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted April 19, 2011 Author Share Posted April 19, 2011 Your in the rare minority who thinks so. I'm not attacking you personally but the people who don't like any COD are the people who are absolutely garbage at it. You can be an 80 year old man picking up his first controller ever and do work in BF2. You can't in COD. You're one of the only people I've ever seen claim the COD is harder to pick up. Maybe if it's the first FPS you've ever played... because COD is a standard FPS. It's known for it's wonderful sound quality, not innovative game play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 BF and CoD are two different playstyles which you can both enjoy, there's no need for competition or "CoD killer" when they are different forms of play. One has cars and is vehicular based over wide, expansive maps, and one is close quarters. You can enjoy both. The difference is there isn't a new BF 1942 / 2 / 3 game every year LOL PS: BF2 came out with BattleRecorder before the CoD theater mode. I haven't played CoD since 2 but one of the best things they used back when I was playing CoD2 is that kill cam or whatever. I demand to know how I died. Sometimes I'll just be running around in BF2 and just collapse out of nowhere to the ground. Why? How? What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spec138 Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 You're one of the only people I've ever seen claim the COD is harder to pick up. Maybe if it's the first FPS you've ever played... because COD is a standard FPS. It's known for it's wonderful sound quality, not innovative game play. This. Go pick up Counter Strike for the first time to find a game you can't just jump into Also, BC2 has amazing sound. My CPU dedicates an entire core to it on "War Tapes" mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Do Itch Big Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 I will buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 I will buy. +1. I love destructable environments. If someone wants to camp a building, Ill bring it down around them! Cant wait for Battlefield 3. Crysis 2 is ok, and Homefront was the hottest of hot garbage. I really tried to like that game, but it just felt poorly thrown together and rushed to production...I tried to defend it, but I just couldn't after they failed at multi-player, and then i read that the game was supposed to be based around the multiplayer. I admit that I tried to support it vocally, but it was a failing effort on my part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boysetsfire Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 Your in the rare minority who thinks so. I'm not attacking you personally but the people who don't like any COD are the people who are absolutely garbage at it. You can be an 80 year old man picking up his first controller ever and do work in BF2. You can't in COD. What? You're the FIRST person i've seen say this. There is absolutely no way someone new can pick up BC2 and do "work" in it. My g/f who has never played a FPS in her life started playing COD when I got tired of it. She's not the best but she ended up getting the hang of it pretty quickly. She is of the spray and pray type (lol) but whatever works for her. There is no way she would have been able to do that in BC2. And no I wasn't garbage in COD, ask anyone in here, I just think Battlefield in general takes WAY more skill. I will say tt's two completely different styles of games so it's unfair to compare both in that regard. One being an arcade like style (COD) and the other being a tactical strategy style (Battlefield). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty dread Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 COD is far easier than BF. There's no debating this. My k/d in Black Ops is 1.5, in BF it's .80 ---------- Post added April-20th-2011 at 09:50 AM ---------- How man FPS's can you play? I mean really, they're all almost the same no matter how much you say they aren't. Since Goldeneye, console FPS's have been beaten to death. I mean they're fun, I have COD but damn, gotta break out of the genre. COD and BF are very different shooters. You may be tired of the genre, but people eat these games up like crack, so the demand is obviously there and shows no signs of slowing down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Would say that other than MMORPG (and that's only because of WoW) , FPS are the 2nd most popular types of games out there. They ain't going away FPS isn't only shoot and aim, they throw in a ton of fun ****. Best FPS right now is TF2, you have different classes to choose from, different modes like capturing briefcases (CTF), escorting carts, or capturing points...etc Only complaint about FPS is this whole perk thing. Even TF2 is not immune to the perks, you got ubers and kritz and guys paying for microtransactions just so they can get that dumb spy knife. But despite the damn perks, FPS still remain a good fun genre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slateman Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Battlefield has always been about multiplayer modes. I remember 1942 didn't even have a single player to speak of, it was basically multiplayer where everyone else was computer controlled. The key differences is that while COD does the soldier v soldier well its an old design. BF has superior vehicle integration, lower foot speed v larger maps for a more strategic gameplay, and of course destroyable environments. A wooden won't save you from a shooter. A building can't save you from a tank. You can literally collapse a building if the enemy team can't stop you from shelling it. It feels great to see that building come down when you know there are 5 enemies "hiding" in it. Plus when you're flanking and you use c4 to make your own "entrance" through a wall... it makes for a great nice surprise. Yes, that was old BF Then COD started making money. Lots and lots of money. I have this bad feeling that this game is going to be geared towards COD fans. Which is unfortunate because ... doubt i'll even turn the multiplayer on after i get bombed for a jet for the 15th time. Yea, pretty much. In order for me to be interested in this game, it would have to be more like Bad Company than COD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spec138 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Only complaint about FPS is this whole perk thing. Even TF2 is not immune to the perks, you got ubers and kritz and guys paying for microtransactions just so they can get that dumb spy knife. But despite the damn perks, FPS still remain a good fun genre. I'm with you there. I just want to shoot some ****ers, not have to worry about my loadouts and making sure I unlock achievements so I can upgrade gear. It's all a scam to reward you for playtime so that you get hooked and have to buy their $15 map pack of maps that were created months ago and should have been released with the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtdrums Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Yes, that was old BFThen COD started making money. Lots and lots of money. I have this bad feeling that this game is going to be geared towards COD fans. Which is unfortunate because ... Yea, pretty much. In order for me to be interested in this game, it would have to be more like Bad Company than COD. You should check out the interviews with DICE. They know where their fanbase is, and they know it's not the COD crowd. There are several references made to how careful they are to keep what's unique to the BF series in there. They're not trying to reinvent the wheel and they know they don't have to. My only current concern is how they're gonna keep the fighter jets balanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins_Fan82 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Yeah, I'd give anything to have a few clips from BC2. Especially the one where I had a Cav vehicle bearing down on me and couldn't get out of the way. I was out of ammo in my assault rifle. Switched to pistol, killed the driver through the windshield and hit O. I was suddenly driving the jeep that was bound to run over me two seconds before. . ---------- Post added April-20th-2011 at 08:45 AM ---------- I'm an ultimate COD fanboy, but I'll definitely admit that Call of Duty is nothing more than a reaction time race. Especially in Black Ops, where connection means EVERYTHING. who sees who first and who has rapid fire determines 75% of the shootouts LOL. Battlefield, Killzone, and Homefront are a bit more strategic and you've actually got to think about what you're gonna do before you do it. I love Black Ops, but half the time i'm running around the map using marathon/lightweight with my rapid fire MP5K. Call of Duty is based a lot more on reaction time than strategy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty dread Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 You should check out the interviews with DICE. They know where their fanbase is, and they know it's not the COD crowd. There are several references made to how careful they are to keep what's unique to the BF series in there. They're not trying to reinvent the wheel and they know they don't have to. My only current concern is how they're gonna keep the fighter jets balanced. Yeah I wouldn't worry about the direction of the BF series, it's in good hands with DICE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSW Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 You're one of the only people I've ever seen claim the COD is harder to pick up. Maybe if it's the first FPS you've ever played... because COD is a standard FPS. It's known for it's wonderful sound quality, not innovative game play. COD is THE benchmark FPS because it has the best GAME play. That is why every new game tries to compare itself to COD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corcaigh Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Heavy TV advertising for a game that isn't going to be released for six months? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSW Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 I wish they would come out with another Tom Clancy "Rainbow Six" game. Now those are amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pick6 Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Here is great 12 minute clip of actually gameplay: http://www.ign.com/videos/2011/04/18/battlefield-3-full-demo-video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boysetsfire Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 COD is THE benchmark FPS because it has the best GAME play. That is why every new game tries to compare itself to COD. Battlefield doesn't have to. It's the fans hyping up this whole "COD killer" thing. I already know what DICE has to bring to the table. I've YET to be disappointed by a Battlefield game from them. Battlefield 2 (PC), 2142 (PC), B2: Modern Combat (PS2) and Bad Company. Edit: In B2: Modern Combat that is still the game where I had the best k/d ever. I ended up with something around 58,000 kills and 17,000 something deaths. Yeah I played the **** out of that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty dread Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Battlefield doesn't have to. It's the fans hyping up this whole "COD killer" thing. I already know what DICE has to bring to the table. I've YET to be disappointed by a Battlefield game from them. Battlefield 2 (PC), 2142 (PC), B2: Modern Combat (PS2) and Bad Company.Edit: In B2: Modern Combat that is still the game where I had the best k/d ever. I ended up with something around 58,000 kills and 17,000 something deaths. Yeah I played the **** out of that game. It's not just the fans, EA is aiming high http://militarygamer.com/electronic-arts-ready-to-dethrone-call-of-duty-franchise-with-battlefield-3/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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