gortiz Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 i know we are only in year one of the Shanahan era and this question was probably better asked during the search last year for a new coach ... but. Can anyone ever see Danny hiring a Raheem Morris, John Harbaugh or Jim Schwartz type? A young (under 45) coach that maybe was not even a coordinator? I don't think we'll ever see that, just cause danny would have serious trust issues handing over his team to someone younger than him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
December90 Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 See Zorn, Jim Danny will feel "twice shy" about hiring the inexperienced. (Yes I know Zorn is older than those you mentioned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.T.real,lights,out Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 See Zorn, Jim Danny will feel "twice shy" about hiring the inexperienced. (Yes I know Zorn is older than those you mentioned) Yea, i was gonna say the same thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 I think if Bruce stays beyond the Shanahan era, there is a very good chance we'll see something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paloosa Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Hellooooo!!! Jim Zorn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destructis Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 I think that once Shanny retires, his son will take over. That is assuming he doesn't get fired. I don't have a problem with them hiring a young inexperienced coach. That was Gibbs when he came in. My name isn't Snyder though. I firmly believe that Shanny is the right person at the moment. The biggest thing I felt the Skins needed was some discipline. I really got tired of hearing about players by passing the HC and going straight to the owner. Yup, Shanny does get into some pissing contests, but he hasn't lost one yet. Also remember that some coaches don't pan out with their first HC job. See Belicheat at Cleveland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clutch03 Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 I think if Bruce stays beyond the Shanahan era, there is a very good chance we'll see something like that. I agree with this. I also believe that at this time Snyder needs a veteran tough nosed coach like Shanahan because he is still going through Cerrato withdrawal. One of these days he'll rid himself of the impulses of the past and he'll be able to hire a young coach. But no today and not tomorrow either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 God I hate the off-season. The lockout's making it doubly worse this time out. No disrespect gortiz, but why are we even contemplating this when we have a 2 time SB winning, HoF headed hungry HC entering year two of changing everything about this organization and making us a respectable football franchise again? As you said in your opening sentance, this question was better asked last year after Zorn was canned. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 I was hoping we'd get a young up and comer, someone who was hungry for success, instead of Shanahan. You look at the teams who win Super Bowls and it's mostly the newer coaches nowadays: Tomlin, McCarthy, Payton, etc. I know Dungy and Coughlin were retreads but neither won SBs with their first teams. What I'm hoping for is Shanny gets us back into relevancy(kinda like what Parcells did for Dallas)and then someone else can step in and be our leader for the next 10+ years(maybe Kyle, we'll see). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLredskin Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 You need to ask this question towards the end of the year when Shanahan is no longer a Redskin... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gortiz Posted March 30, 2011 Author Share Posted March 30, 2011 Hellooooo!!! Jim Zorn? Young is the key word here killer ... zorn was 55 when danny hired him. he was also a respectable nfl player and at the time a well, well, respected qb coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GibbsFactor Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 I can, that's why I'm all for him hanging out with the likes of Shanny and Gibbs. He'll eventually get it and being involved, at the very least as just a fly on the wall, can only help the future of this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 You need to ask this question towards the end of the year when Shanahan is no longer a Redskin... Your love for the HC just shines through with every post man. Remind me to never piss you off the way Shanahan so obviously has. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gortiz Posted March 30, 2011 Author Share Posted March 30, 2011 God I hate the off-season. The lockout's making it doubly worse this time out.No disrespect gortiz, but why are we even contemplating this when we have a 2 time SB winning, HoF headed hungry HC entering year two of changing everything about this organization and making us a respectable football franchise again? As you said in your opening sentance, this question was better asked last year after Zorn was canned. Hail. non taken ... just wondering if anyone has ever thought of this. i know its pretty out of context, but i think its fascinating. with the league obviously going in this direction and it being a copy cat league, i was wondering if danny would ever be swayed or is too damn stubborn ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLredskin Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Your love for the HC just shines through with every post man. Remind me to never piss you off the way Shanahan so obviously has.Hail. When we go 1-11, Shanahan will be fired and rightfully so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 You need to ask this question towards the end of the year when Shanahan is no longer a Redskin... So he should probably ask it in four or five years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPCreativelab Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 When we go 1-11, Shanahan will be fired and rightfully so... so who should be the coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 non taken ... just wondering if anyone has ever thought of this. i know its pretty out of context, but i think its fascinating. with the league obviously going in this direction and it being a copy cat league, i was wondering if danny would ever be swayed or is too damn stubborn ... One would presume Kyle is next in line and being groomed for when his dad hangs it up. But he's still a LONG way to go to show he's anything like HC material. And personally, I think it mainly rests in the hands of Allen now Snyder's taken a full back seat to football matters. I think he's shown over the last year he's mellowed on the stubbornness and is now doing what an owner should do. Long may it continue. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 so who should be the coach? :troll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horatio Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 I think that once Shanny retires, his son will take over. That is assuming he doesn't get fired. That would violate the Rooney Rule...not that Snyder cares. He'll just trot out Sherman Lewis for an "interview" and claim compliance. I don't have a problem with them hiring a young inexperienced coach. That was Gibbs when he came in. My name isn't Snyder though. I firmly believe that Shanny is the right person at the moment. The biggest thing I felt the Skins needed was some discipline. I really got tired of hearing about players by passing the HC and going straight to the owner. Yup, Shanny does get into some pissing contests, but he hasn't lost one yet. Snyder was the enabler of that atmosphere in the first place, with his buddying up to Clinton Portis. He allowed it to continue and undermine the authority of the coaches. Also remember that some coaches don't pan out with their first HC job. See Belicheat at Cleveland. And some coaches don't pan out in their last jobs, like Gibbs 2.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 That would violate the Rooney Rule...not that Snyder cares. He'll just trot out Sherman Lewis for an "interview" and claim compliance. It actually wouldn't, as long as it's in Kyle's contract that he takes over once Mike leaves. That's the one stipluation to the Rooney Rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 See Zorn, Jim Danny will feel "twice shy" about hiring the inexperienced. (Yes I know Zorn is older than those you mentioned) In the years I've followed the Redskins, I can think of only once when we brought in a relatively inexperienced coach who turned out a success and just a total of 3 tries. JKC tried it and succeeded once because he had already brought in a great executive who was the one who actually drove the hiring process. Second time, he failed miserably, maybe because he no longer had a great executive to drive the process? Danny did it once and failed, perhaps because he didn't have a good executive to drive the process. Vinnie seemed to think that Zorn was his puppet who would make Vinnie look good. Beathard seemed to think that if Gibbs was successful, Beathard would also be successful. In the first half of 2008, Zorn looked solid but couldn't repeat it. Yes, with hindsight, there were issues but anybody who says that he new Zorn would be bad is LYING (although they may not realize it). I wouldn't put any coach into the category of a great hire of an inexperienced coach until the they do a repeat or two. Hell, going into 1983, there were still significant questions surrounding Gibbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scruffylookin Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 This is where an honest to goodness real GM would step in. That has been Danny's failure so far, refusing to hire a real pro at GM and then let him hire the coach (be him experienced or a novice). I'm no fan of Allen, but he is a step in the right direction. I still view Allen as more of a Shanahan hire than Danny hire but we'll see. But in Danny's defense, the late great Jack Kent Cooke likely would never have even thought of hiring Joe Gibbs unless Bobby Beathard was there to bring Gibbs before him and to urge him to make that hire. Retreads like George Allen and John Madden were the speculated favorites in the 81 coaching search and if JKC was left to decide, he likely would have gone in that direction. But unlike Danny, JKC had a brilliant GM who ended up being just as talented at finding young no name talent in the coaching ranks as he did in the player ranks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chanhillbilly Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Also remember that some coaches don't pan out with their first HC job. See Belicheat at Cleveland. Nobody seems to work out in Cleveland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veteranskinsfan Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 Scruffylookin- You are dead right about Bobby B. He had an amazing talent and its a shame that he and Gibbs never appreciated each other WHILE they were working together. I think years later they both realized that it was good teamwork- egos got in the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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