nfl guru Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Robert Quinn. Quinn projects as a top 10 prospect but with the way Von Miller's stock has risen, the redskins are in a good place to pick Quinn. Everybody knows he didn't play this past year for taking improper benefits, but he was considered one of the top defensive players coming off his sophomore year and is a elite prospect IMO. By all accounts, he showed up to the combine and really showed out and seemed eager to play either 4-3 DE or 3-4 OLB. North Carolina’s Robert Quinn was very impressive, running a 4.67 and 4.70 while looking extremely smooth and athletic in the positional drills. Basic scouting report based off draftgeek Pros-Elite athleticism. Has phenomenal speed and quickness for a guy his size -Ideal size and frame -Explodes out of his stance and immediately get blockers on their heels -Plays with good pad level and leverage, able to get underneath tackles -Excellent rip move to the outside -Versatile. Size and athleticism make him a fit in a 3-4 or 4-3 -Great motor, never quits on a play and great in pursuit -Good tackler and has top-notch closing speed -Does a good job getting off blocks Cons -Could stand to improve against the run. Doesn't spend a lot of time in the interior -Would like to see him get stronger -Missed all of the 2010 season. As long as he is in shape now it shouldn't be much of an issue though -Had a brain tumor in high school that he overcame. Teams will do due-diligence Overall It would be very interesting to see how high Robert Quinn's stock would have gone had he not been suspended for the entire 2010 Season. He has every bit the talent that Da'Quan Bowers has, but Bowers gets the edge just because he doesn't have the minor Question marks that Quinn does. Quinn's suspension is a non-factor to me, as long as he didn't pull a Mike Williams and is still in shape, there isn't much to be concerned about. Quinn is an incredible athlete, his speed, explosion, and quickness are unbelievable for a guy who is 6-5 270. He gets off the ball so quickly that O-Lineman often have a hard time even getting a hand on him. He is an elite edge rusher and will beat an OT 1-on-1 every time to the outside. Quinn has a versatile skill set and has the ability to succeed as a traditional 4-3 pass rusher with his hand on the ground, but also has the skills to be good as a 3-4 OLB, so he will appeal to all teams. We would like to see Quinn get a little bit stronger and do a better job against the run, as he can get washed out of the play if blocked well. Outside of getting stronger against the run, Quinn's game does not lack much else, and he should be wreaking havoc on quarterbacks for a long time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuKdkjZf5uk If we're modeling our defense after the steelers, then we need to fix the OLB opposite Orakpo and Quinn would serve as a perfect fit. Big enough to play strongside and brings a passrush threat so Orakpo can't be doubled all the time which we all know started to happen last year. I'd rather pass on reaching for a QB at 10 and take a shot at Ponder in the 2nd round.:logo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Quinn probably will go top 5. There are so many OLB and DE's in this years first round that it's insane. At 10 I'd be happy with Von Miller, Robert Quinn, Cam Jordan, or Nick Fairley if you're simply talking about defensive players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfl guru Posted March 8, 2011 Author Share Posted March 8, 2011 Thing is Bowers, Miller, and Fairley are all projected ahead of Quinn at this point. That year off might lower his stock enough to help our chances of getting him, but he's an elite talent no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Thing is Bowers, Miller, and Fairley are all projected ahead of Quinn at this point. That year off might lower his stock enough to help our chances of getting him, but he's an elite talent no doubt. All projected but all have either limited game experience or physical red flags. Bowers is inconsistent, Fairley is a 4-3 DT only, Miller is a beast. With 5, 3-4 teams drafting before the Skins it's anyone guess what happens right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Whatever happens there is going to be either one of the top QBs, an elite defensive player or one of the top two elite WRs available at 10. We just need to stand pat and see who drops. I would be very happy with Quinn or Aldon Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long n Left Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Because of the uncertainty surrounding this year's draft, the Skins best value may come in trading down. Within just the past couple weeks 've seen mock drafts, from reputable sources, with 8 different players going #1. Nobody has a clue how the first ten picks of this draft are going to pan out, and someone outrageous may fall to the 10th pick (say a Peterson) that would have teams below the Skins offering multiple draft picks for. Personally, I think this draft is very deep with solid talent and not a lot of "can't miss" prospects. In that instance I believe it is best to acquire more picks, especially for a team like the Skins, who need to fill many spots, get younger, and get deeper. There should be plenty of NFL starter quality guys well into the 3rd, 4th, and 5th rounds. If Allen can work some magic and parlay that #10 pick into 3-4 picks in the first 4-5 rounds, it could help this team get a lot better, a lot quicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acuratl1984 Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 I have a feeling that both Quinn and Miller wont be available at 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Quinn definitely has talent and is a great athlete. But he is also definitely a risky pick. One year of high level production and that was with an excellent surrounding cast. Not saying I would be against taking him as long as we are pretty sure that he is truly as good as people hoped he would be this past season if it weren't for the permaban he got at UNC. But he is still a risk. Between him and Miller I would definitely take Quinn, though. I think Miller has some great gifts but I don't think he would fit in our defense. He is a pure ROLB in a 3-4 and has very little besides outside speed rushes. Quinn didn't seem as strong as I had hoped, but he definitely looked stronger than Miller did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aarobinson Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 well, I dont think we MUST take Quinn if he's there at 10, but he's certainly a good option. Kid is unbelievably agile for his size--he reminds me of Orakpo a lot, but not quite as fast and a bit better with the moves on the outside rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dacrazy_sun Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 he is a 4-3 DE, why do you think he will fit the 3-4 scheme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GibbsFactor Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 My big board for defense would look like this: 1. Dareus 2. Quinn (stronger than miller, just as explosive) 3. Peterson 4. Watt 5. Jordan 6. Amukamara 7. Miller (Too bad we have this position filled) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumplestilskin Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 The whole brain tumour issue is a little scary but the guy is solid. I would prefer Miller though. Its starting to become obvious that we will be drafting defense unless we want to reach on someone other than Gabbert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GibbsFactor Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Quinn definitely has talent and is a great athlete. But he is also definitely a risky pick. One year of high level production and that was with an excellent surrounding cast. Not saying I would be against taking him as long as we are pretty sure that he is truly as good as people hoped he would be this past season if it weren't for the permaban he got at UNC. But he is still a risk. Between him and Miller I would definitely take Quinn, though. I think Miller has some great gifts but I don't think he would fit in our defense. He is a pure ROLB in a 3-4 and has very little besides outside speed rushes. Quinn didn't seem as strong as I had hoped, but he definitely looked stronger than Miller did. Which is why I'd be willing to go DE in the first and grab a Houston/Moch (it's like the plan b's of Miller/Quinn) in the second round. I'd love to trade with the Pats, get that 17 for Jordan/Watt and use the 33 for Houston. Then grab best guard/Wr on the board at 41. ---------- Post added March-8th-2011 at 10:08 AM ---------- The whole brain tumour issue is a little scary but the guy is solid. I would prefer Miller though. Its starting to become obvious that we will be drafting defense unless we want to reach on someone other than Gabbert. Curious, why do you prefer Miller? You'd be okay sliding Rak over to Sam? I see people saying this all the time. Look, Miller may be a beast, but he's a Jack. He's got to be on the right side, facing the left tackle. If he's on the other side, he'll get swallowed up at the POA. That's what happened to our backers last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 I think Quinn is the only player I am interested at 10. If Jones is there (no, Green won't be), we get either the Pats or the Rams to trade up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aarobinson Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 he is a 4-3 DE, why do you think he will fit the 3-4 scheme Most 3-4 OLB's are college 4-3 DE's. It's a matter of projection. You look at this guy, he's built like DeMarcus Ware, is sufficiently agile and fluid, and plays like a 3-4 OLB. It's an inexact science, even to those who know what they're doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Edds Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 I agree, I am a Clemson alum and a huge Bowers fan (obviously) ... and even though its been ingrained in me to not tout/promote any players from the other Carolina schools (:-)) ... Quinn is a beast! His strength and speed separate him from the rest of the pack of OLB/DE's on the board (imo) ... and that flexibility has got to have Shanny-Hass very intrigued with the possibility of him playing alongside Rak, Fletch and Riley/Henson/L'Zo. That would be a pretty nasty LB core for us! "The Quin-Rak Attack!" ... sounds good to me. I think if this guy is there at 10 we need to take him (unless we get a ridiculous offer for more picks)... I don't know much about Akeen Ayers or any of the other projected 34 OLB's ... but this guy seems like a physical freak compared to the rest (other than Von Miller). HAIL to em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bird_1972 Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 The whole brain tumour issue is a little scary but the guy is solid. I would prefer Miller though. Its starting to become obvious that we will be drafting defense unless we want to reach on someone other than Gabbert. Not to sound crass, but I'd want to see a recent MRI before risking a top-10 pick on the kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x96bryan10 Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 I have a feeling that both Quinn and Miller wont be available at 10 Well good thing there are so many talented players in the top 10 this year. We are almost guaranteed to have someone fall at a need. I just hope some how Gabbert and Newton go in the top 10. Cards seem like the biggest threat to take Miller as they are setting up a defense similar to ours. I have my doubts about taking Quinn after missing a year. But i also havent seen many of his games/highlights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rypien1191 Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 This definitely required its own thread. Anyways, Quinn would be a fine pick, but like has been said 800 times, we really can't go wrong at #10 (unless its Cam). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyUtah Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 My number one choice is definitely Von Miller. However, I really don't think he'll be there. I would gladly taking Quinn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKIN4WAHOOZ Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 he is a beast...however, 90% of that video was againt duke and UVA. Virginias O/OL was absolute garbage 09/10. Maybe the worst in school history. Trust me, I know. Check the username. PS: Mike London is the real deal tho. Stay tuned for "The Building of a Program". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 I got no opinion one way or another Quinn, if the theory proves correct that he's another Orakpo of course am all for it. I notice the NFL Network guys love him. He has his detractors, too -- mainly that he wasn't hot at the combine and he had his big games against inferior opponents and disapeared in games where the competition was stiff http://twitter.com/#!/RUSSLANDE RUSSLANDE Russell Lande After just an average workout at Combine, I graded 4 more games of R. Quinn and will definitely be lowering his grade out of the 1st round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmerz Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 What will we do about our offense?? All signs are pointing to drafting a defensive player. Quinn would be solid IMO. It seems as if if defensive rookies have much more of an impact early in their careers, but I can't take anymore of these horrid Offenses. Ugh......so many holes, hopefully they have a plan for the offense to at least compete next year. Please no Newton though!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Full Monty Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 I'm all for it. Improve the D with a pass rusher opposite of Orakpo. We got next to zero pressure from the other side. Also, there's supposedly some stout 3-4 DEs available too and we could definitely use our own version of a young Richard Seymour / Aaron Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumplestilskin Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Which is why I'd be willing to go DE in the first and grab a Houston/Moch (it's like the plan b's of Miller/Quinn) in the second round. I'd love to trade with the Pats, get that 17 for Jordan/Watt and use the 33 for Houston. Then grab best guard/Wr on the board at 41.---------- Post added March-8th-2011 at 10:08 AM ---------- Curious, why do you prefer Miller? You'd be okay sliding Rak over to Sam? I see people saying this all the time. Look, Miller may be a beast, but he's a Jack. He's got to be on the right side, facing the left tackle. If he's on the other side, he'll get swallowed up at the POA. That's what happened to our backers last year. I think Miller could play either side and even inside for that matter. He would be great as a Sam and he would adapt to any assignment and make the transition smoothly. I think he is far more than just a right side pass rush specialist. Rak and Miller would be no more smaller in stature than Woodley and Harrison. There is also no limits to his athleticism and he is a thumper of a tackler and would be fine at the point of attack. If anything I think Quinn would be less of a fit because he brings less versatility and more similarity to Orakpo's game. That being said I would love to draft either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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