Darth Tater Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Dockery- 2011: $3.815 millionHicks-2011: $1.15 million Rabach-2011: $3 million Mike Williams-2011: $840,000 How much of that is due in bonus form before FA and/or draft? It seems to me the primary reason for cutting a guy out of hand before you actually sign his or get the negotiation rights to his replacement is that he is due cash. The only other reason I can think of is to give him time to hook up with another team. I don't think there's much intelligence he can gather between now and March even if you do have a plan to replace him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 As much as it pains me to say this, it doesn't seem like Portis will be back unless he is willing to restructure/take a pay cut. Until we get his replacement on the roster or at least have the exclusive negotiating rights (ie, draft pick), CP will not be cut unless by being on the roster as of a certain date, he's owed cash. This thread is not about who will be on the roster in July or even April but by the beginning of March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLongshot Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Portis is the only guy who I could see getting cut now, and even then I think the team would look to see if he'd want to come back at a lower price, so I wouldn't see it until a CBA gets done. They certainly don't need to worry about cutting for cap room yet, since they did a lot of cleaning house last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolio47 Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Portis is the only guy who I could see getting cut now, and even then I think the team would look to see if he'd want to come back at a lower price, so I wouldn't see it until a CBA gets done.They certainly don't need to worry about cutting for cap room yet, since they did a lot of cleaning house last season. I would hope Portis realizes that he doesn't have many options and should take a pay cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLongshot Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 I would hope Portis realizes that he doesn't have many options and should take a pay cut. Portis will be on the market and will look at his options, as any FA should. He still has a lot of value to many teams, but I suspect they will let him sit out there for a few weeks, if he decides not to come back. (Or, if Shanahan decides not to bring him back.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 I wish they could cut some of our fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destructis Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 They won't cut anyone right now. They aren't required to cut anyone unless they have a bonus coming up soon. Shanny rarely plays anything like that. Usually when a team cuts a player before free agency, it's either a bonus coming due or they really want the guy to have a chance to catch on somewhere else and give him a head start. Shanny is pure business and if it doesn't benefit him, then he won't release anyone. I could even see him keeping McNabb on the roster until right before the first game because that is when his bonus comes due. It's not personal, it's just business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirt Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Sometimes I forget that we still have McNabb on our team. What the hell are we are going to do with that guy'? This summer he's gonna be announcing where he'll take his 'talents' on a big ESPN special. ok a CSN special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefPowhatan17 Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 They will cut: Dockery Carter Portis They should trade: Haynesworth for 4th or 5th McNabb for 4th or 5th Carter if they could, but probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oraphus Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Moore will not get cut.. he is really cheap and will be kept around for depth. He actually played well pre-injury. Also i hope Portis agrees to restructure.. i think with a full training camp and pre-season he can still be very effective on this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildbill1952 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Without a CBA, meaning there is danger that all the players available in FA are RFA, wouldn't cutting our players without having replacements already lined up be a little risky? As an RFA, any team who currently owns the rights to the player has the right to match, whcih meas we over bid or they simply match our offer and keep the player. Wouldn't it be be better to wait until after the CBA is done? RFA's almost never leave their teams because of the potential high cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSF Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Portis, Dock, and Rabach have the best chance of not being on the roster if cuts are made. I don't think they will cut Rabach unless they find a replacement first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xero21 Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Gone: Portis (unless he takes a major pay cut) Rabach (same as Portis) Dockery Haynesworth Kemoeatu Carter McIntosh Rogers McNabb will be traded if we can get good value. Also, if Jammal Brown's contract is up (I can't remember if it is or not), I'm not sure if he'll be back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Without a CBA, meaning there is danger that all the players available in FA are RFA, wouldn't cutting our players without having replacements already lined up be a little risky? As an RFA, any team who currently owns the rights to the player has the right to match, whcih meas we over bid or they simply match our offer and keep the player. Wouldn't it be be better to wait until after the CBA is done?RFA's almost never leave their teams because of the potential high cost. Even with a CBA, you DO NOT cut guys until you've got their replacements committed to you unless you are going to owe them new money if you keep them on your roster or are being nice and letting them try to hook up with another team ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johns Bass Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Don't see any cuts for a while. But, if there was a god, Rabach would top my list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 throw in davis and hall too for fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 I'm pretty sure Carter's contract has already voided. He's listed as a 2011 free agent on Rotoworld. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdcskins Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Moore will not get cut.. he is really cheap and will be kept around for depth. All I will ever remember Moore for is making that pick at the end of the first half in the Saints game two years ago and getting stripped by that WR for a TD. Cut him just for that. I exaggerate. Safety depth is key like you said. But he is nothing special to me at all. Better than Doughty though that's for sure. Cut that chump. Can't cover a statue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
authentic Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Gone:Portis (unless he takes a major pay cut) Rabach (same as Portis) Dockery Haynesworth Kemoeatu Carter McIntosh Rogers McNabb will be traded if we can get good value. Also, if Jammal Brown's contract is up (I can't remember if it is or not), I'm not sure if he'll be back. Don't have a problem with that list at all....Here are some additionals: P. Daniels, HB Blades, M. Williams (heart issues). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enter Apotheosis Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 I exaggerate. Safety depth is key like you said. But he is nothing special to me at all. Better than Doughty though that's for sure. Cut that chump. Can't cover a statue. I'd actually say that Doughty is the much better player between the two of them, he's just more physically limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Don't have a problem with that list at all....Here are some additionals: P. Daniels, HB Blades, M. Williams (heart issues). Agreed, except for Daniels. He still plays well in a back up roll. He is a team leader and a great guy to have. I hope he becomes part of our training staff when he does retire. I think Doughty and Horton are both FAs as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Agreed, except for Daniels. He still plays well in a back up roll. He is a team leader and a great guy to have. I hope he becomes part of our training staff when he does retire.I think Doughty and Horton are both FAs as well. Doughty I would agree with, but Horton still has some value IMO. He has shown flashes, and would be a decent backup SS IMO. He had as many INTs in his rookie season as Landry does in his career... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flock53 Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 P S. PaulescuP J. Bidwell WR M. Furrey WR M. Kelly NT Kemoeatu LB McIntosh RB C. Portis Not Kelly but Carter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freefalln Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 I would start with Sam Huff..seriously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 I would start with Sam Huff..seriously How about just the whole broadcast team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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