chow184 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 They are clearly victims but I'd liken them to someone going down a dark sketchy alley with hundred dollar bills sticking out of their pockets. It's just not a bright place to go , not for a tanker or a yacht with 4 older people. It's a sad situation, I'm not blaming them, just saying their actions contributed to them being put in that situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Again, apparently we're talking about the entire northern part of the Indian Ocean. Which should be an international outrage. Oh no doubt, it's the wild west out there. But the shipping companies say it's cheaper to pay the ransom than to confront the piracy, until that changes then the status quo will remain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Again, apparently we're talking about the entire northern part of the Indian Ocean. Which should be an international outrage. Well we know where they are based and have plenty of old ordinance that needs to be disposed of.....Dresden II? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSkins561 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 This is a perfect example for the "blame the victim" thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 This is a perfect example for the "blame the victim" thread. *edit... are you saying that's what we're doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Its time to adopt a shoot first answer questions later stance when it comes to these scum. If they are not fishing along their waters then its time for the proverbial kick in the teeth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejaydana Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I still like the suggestion that our Navy use high powered water cannons to swamp the boats of these idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortisBetts Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 This is a perfect example for the "blame the victim" thread. I dont know where you see that. I dont think anyone is blaming the victims, but actually putting the situation in the correct perspective. "It is not the yachters fault they were murdered, but they did take a risk in going on these oceans and leaving the other boats. Especially in a place as bad as this." It is a shame they got killed and it is not right in anyway, and i feel bad for them and their families, but also take into account they didnt have to sail these waters and could have avoided the situation. None the less, they are still innocent victims and didnt deserve what they got. I hope the US make a retaliation effort and shows not to **** with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 We need to start sending a special forces over there on Yachts and wipe out the pirates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSkins561 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 We need to start sending a special forces over there on Yachts and wipe out the pirates. One group was trying to offer hunting expeditions, I'm not sure if they ever succeeded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCBnG21 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Why even waste the time to capture these bastiges? A much better message would have been to bust a cap in all of them and turn them into sea snake and great white food. Well, I'm just dreaming, but hopefully to gain information that can be used on a shore-bound field trip to Somalia for the SEAL team out there. The head guys are nowhere near those boats. ---------- Post added February-22nd-2011 at 02:00 PM ---------- One group was trying to offer hunting expeditions, I'm not sure if they ever succeeded. This happened for a while after the fall of the Soviet Union, because when they quit getting paid, their SPETZNAZ soldiers were going down on hopping on boats for work. Turns out them being on boats led to a worldwide shortage in pirates for a while.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 I honestly did not know that the entire northern Indian Ocean is now considered dangerous waters because of Somali pirates. It's an outrage that those ill-equipped ragtag thugs can terrorize such a vast stretch of international waters. I had assumed that their domain was much more localized to the waters off the coast of Somalia. It's unfortunate, but there is a huge region of the Indian Ocean now that is considered dangerous because of piracy. When I was in Madagascar, Somali pirates took hostages from waters off the northwestern tip of the island. Also, the waters around the Seychelles is well known for piracy. That whole area, eastern African up to the Middle East is at higher risk for piracy. Even these victims knew this and apparently had sent emails expressing their concern about where they were sailing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCsportsfan53 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I still like the suggestion that our Navy use high powered water cannons to swamp the boats of these idiots. Kind of off topic but, for how much longer should it essentially be our unilateral military responsibility to police the seas the world over? For how much longer can we afford it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejaydana Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ we can't and we shouldn't. Israel might feel differently however (at least in this specific region). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 This is a perfect example for the "blame the victim" thread. Not if you've actually read the posts in here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ we can't and we shouldn't. Israel might feel differently however (at least in this specific region). I don't know about the rest of the world, but there are vessels from various navies (including Russia, China, India, Japan, and NATO) patrolling around Somalia due to these pirates: http://www.ethjournal.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2080:-pirate-attacks-drop-34-as-navies-patrol-somali-coast-&catid=13:headlines&Itemid=19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Kind of off topic but, for how much longer should it essentially be our unilateral military responsibility to police the seas the world over? For how much longer can we afford it? I imagine wiping out some rag-tag band of pirates to be much less expensive than occupying two countries in the middle-east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostofSparta Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/piracy;_ylt=AqbdaoouR4DkzEWS7iEKCAAEq594;_ylu=X3oDMTJxMTFucXFrBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTEwMjIyL3BpcmFjeQRjY29kZQNtcF9lY184XzEwBGNwb3MDMwRwb3MDMwRzZWMDeW5fdG9wX3N0b3JpZXMEc2xrAzRhbWVyaWNhbmhvcw-- Killing hostages "has now become part of our rules," said a pirate who identified himself as Muse Abdi and referred to last week's sentencing of a pirate to 33 years in prison for the 2009 attack on the U.S. cargo vessel the Maersk Alabama."From now on, anyone who tries to rescue the hostages in our hands will only collect dead bodies," he said. "It will never ever happen that hostages are rescued and we are hauled to prison." Well they've certainly made their ROE clear. I think it's time to start blowing their boats out of the water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSkins561 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Not if you've actually read the posts in here. You're right, however it is similar to some of the situations discussed in that thread. I dont think people were blaming Cooper for walking into a riot and getting punched, however he could have avoided the situation. It's horrible what happened to these people, may they RIP, but damn, why would they put themselves at risk. they had to have known the dangers of the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zguy28 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/piracy;_ylt=AqbdaoouR4DkzEWS7iEKCAAEq594;_ylu=X3oDMTJxMTFucXFrBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTEwMjIyL3BpcmFjeQRjY29kZQNtcF9lY184XzEwBGNwb3MDMwRwb3MDMwRzZWMDeW5fdG9wX3N0b3JpZXMEc2xrAzRhbWVyaWNhbmhvcw--Well they've certainly made their ROE clear. I think it's time to start blowing their boats out of the water. Carpet bomb the entire Somali coast line and anchorages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiebear Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Their lives should be used as an example: 1. For the International Body to keep a large contingent near that location from a UN/Nato Country nearby so its not that expensive. (but big enough to Stomp!) 2. Warn others, no matter the great intentions: Don't go there, for any reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I still like the suggestion that our Navy use high powered water cannons to swamp the boats of these idiots. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ You know what would be really cool? Say if someone who knew how to build website forums would put a button that one could click that would quote a previous post so later readers could reference quickly the portion of the quote that a user is responding to....if only such a thing existed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiebear Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ You know what would be really cool? Say if someone who knew how to build website forums would put a button that one could click that would quote a previous post so later readers could reference quickly the portion of the quote that a user is responding to....if only such a thing existed. If only people knew you didn't have to use the "hypertext code for quote ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^" while quoting said quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ we had one, but those damn Somali pirates absconded with it! ~Yarr! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 If only people knew you didn't have to use the "hypertext code for quote ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^" while quoting said quote. If only... I knew what this was supposed to mean. :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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