Sticksboi05 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 A wounded Iraq war veteran and Columbia University freshman was jeered during a meeting about bringing ROTC back to the school, the New York Post reports. Anthony Maschek, a wheelchair-bound Purple Heart recipient who was shot 11 times during his time in Iraq, was hissed and booed at when he spoke in support of ROTC during the Feb. 15 town hall meeting. Some students shouted "racist" during Maschek's testimony, during which he stated, "It doesn't matter how you feel about the war. It doesn't matter how you feel about fighting. There are bad men out there plotting to kill you." ... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/21/anthony-maschek-wounded-w_n_825874.html Wow...Disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarrellsMyHero28 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Awful. His quote is spot-on. Disagree with the wars all you want, but direct your hatred towards the suits in Washington who sent these guys over there...not the men and women who are fighting and dying every day to keep us alive and give douchebags like that the right to boo a true hero. People make me sick sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallascrushers Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Awful.His quote is spot-on. Disagree with the wars all you want, but direct your hatred towards the suits in Washington who sent these guys over there...not the men and women who are fighting and dying every day to keep us alive and give douchebags like that the right to boo a true hero. People make me sick sometimes. totally agree with this post...couldn't have said it any better man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinFaninOKC Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 That's ashame. I never served our country but those people at Coumbia sound like a bunch of ungrateful neo hippies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrong Direction Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 That's ashame. I never served our country but those people at Coumbia sound like a bunch of ungrateful neo hippies. Yeah, it's reminiscent of people spitting on soldiers returning from Vietnam. It seems like most of the left has matured beyond that, but some on the radical side are so hateful that they can't help themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madison Redskin Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 That's just plain disgusting. I remember running to a few people like that during college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Personally I think ROTC should be welcomed back on campus and that these idiots should pull their heads out of their asses and realize the nation needs it's military no matter what you think about an individual war. Why exclude them from a good university? To appease the schools inner liberal instead of complaining about the percentage of minority or impoverished recruitment they should see the upward mobility and opportunity for a better life it provides that few other countries can boast. ROTC is a great thing for the military and the US. Let them on campus and in fact celebrate the fact that they want to be there. Having said that I am failing to see how this is so despicable. We live in a country where the President is called, routinely, a war criminal (Bush) and a America hating communist (Obama). This is a political issue on campus and in true political fashion both sides are way too emotionally charged. It appears as if they are booing the Anthony because of his position on the issue, not because he's a soldier. If they are booing him in the old "baby killer" fashion because he fought in a war and because he's a soldier I'd agree. I didn't see that in the article. That would be disgusting. Boos and wild eyed insults are common place in politics however and this seemed like political campus event and I'm afraid recent history has shown us that no one is exempt from political rage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiebear Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 He was shot 11 times to continue our rights to jeer/boo him. You may not like the war of 1812 or Iraq but they all equal the same thing. They step up to protect us, with the current generation going NONSTOP! I'd rip my child out of school and have her working at starbucks within the hour if i saw her face in the crowd... ( I DONT have to allow it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 I heard the tape of the heckling on the news today, absolutely disgusting. I wanted to single out that girl I could hear laughing and smack her. I wouldn't do that because I wouldn't hit another person, but that was my first gut instinct b/c I was so horrified at that behavior. There is nothing wrong with ROTC recruiting on college campuses. People, like these little ****heads at Columbia, need to realize that continued recruitment into our volunteer army is a SEPERATE ISSUE from wars they may or may not disagree with and maintaining numbers and even increasing them in our military is a GOOD THING. These brats seriously need to travel a little bit and bone up on some history to open their eyes and better understand the world we live in and the reason we need a strong military. Finally, these jerks need to learn to act in a decent, civilized manner. What is wrong with people? How can someone not show another human being who has personally sacrificed for our country a basic level of respect and refrain from being jackasses and heckling him? Disrespecting others is one of my biggest pet peeves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Pompous Left Wing Ivy Leaguers booing War Vets? No way!!! Maybe they were booing because they were upset that they ran out of Mr Bubbles for their pipes while sitting in those tweed jackets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticksboi05 Posted February 21, 2011 Author Share Posted February 21, 2011 Personally I think ROTC should be welcomed back on campus and that these idiots should pull their heads out of their asses and realize the nation needs it's military no matter what you think about an individual war. Why exclude them from a good university? To appease the schools inner liberal instead of complaining about the percentage of minority or impoverished recruitment they should see the upward mobility and opportunity for a better life it provides that few other countries can boast. ROTC is a great thing for the military and the US. Let them on campus and in fact celebrate the fact that they want to be there. Having said that I am failing to see how this is so despicable. We live in a country where the President is called, routinely, a war criminal (Bush) and a America hating communist (Obama). This is a political issue on campus and in true political fashion both sides are way too emotionally charged. It appears as if they are booing the Anthony because of his position on the issue, not because he's a soldier. If they are booing him in the old "baby killer" fashion because he fought in a war and because he's a soldier I'd agree. I didn't see that in the article. That would be disgusting. Boos and wild eyed insults are common place in politics however and this seemed like political campus event and I'm afraid recent history has shown us that no one is exempt from political rage. The man was shot eleven times protecting you and those punks at Columbia in a war that who knows if he even agrees with. The least we can do is show some damn respect for someone who has a lot more courage than most to put his life on the line for us. The President is a public figure, the biggest figure and regardless, he does not personally go into battle and take the risk of being killed. There's absolutely no problem in arguing against ROTC as that is your right as an American, but there are far more respectful ways to do it than to heckle a wheelchair bound veteran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 The man was shot eleven times protecting you and those punks at Columbia in a war that who knows if he even agrees with. The least we can do is show some damn respect for someone who has a lot more courage than most to put his life on the line for us. The President is a public figure, the biggest figure and regardless, he does not personally go into battle and take the risk of being killed.There's absolutely no problem in arguing against ROTC as that is your right as an American, but there are far more respectful ways to do it than to heckle a wheelchair bound veteran. I hear what you're saying but ultimately that mindset is part of the problem. You should behave based on the setting you find yourself in not because you happen to believe person A deserves respect and person B doesn't. I mean look at what you just did, you justified disrespect towards the PRESIDENT for crying out loud. That same logic will be applied be people that will absolutely disagree that this man was shot defending Americans as they view the wars as not being about "defense" at all (wrongly, I might add). If we pick and choose who is worthy of us behaving like adults this **** will just get worse. At a political rally scream and get all emotional, that's the point. At a meeting intended for the sides to state their case and are appealing to reason and seeking a resolution, act like a damn decent adult and keep quiet. Politics in the US needs a lot less emotion in general. This guy shouldn't have been called any names or should have been afforded an audience that came to listen. That was the point. Sadly that's not the case and he had to face ridicule at the hands of a bunch of entitle pukes. It's a shame that behaving like animals is cool these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticksboi05 Posted February 21, 2011 Author Share Posted February 21, 2011 Yes, President is a position that in itself, justifies criticism. He's a public figure. The laws regarding libel etc. are specifically stricter because of that. ---------- Post added February-21st-2011 at 05:25 PM ---------- And I didn't justify all disrespect did I? I simply said a public figure knows what comes with their job. To me, no matter the position there are cases where people just need to shutup and be respectful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 College age kids do goofy stuff all the time. At least nobody got a broomstick up their ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLredskin Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 This Alex Maschek guy...the presentation seemed off to me. The "other parts of the country are plotting to kill you" line was weird. That is another thing that bothers me when people praise the military for protecting us from terrorists attacks. That is cool and all, but what about American on American crime that happen everyday. 9/11 this, 9/11 that...are we holding mass memorials for everyone that was murdered in Washington, DC last year? Another thing that annoys me is calling these men heros and praising them. Its like going to the military automatically make you some type of great person. You have all these men in the military and i'm supposed to believe they are all saints. Back to the ROTC presentation, I think the people were booing what he had to say instead of actually booing him. Only reason you guys think its despicable is because he is a handicap person. Why would the military send him him anyway? I'll take a look at him and say "I don't want to end up like that". You go defend country and then come back crippled, but get called a hero and honored while your friends go on to live a happy legs and 4 limbs and a functioning brain...nah its not worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuposse87 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 This Alex Maschek guy...the presentation seemed off to me. The "other parts of the country are plotting to kill you" line was weird. That is another thing that bothers me when people praise the military for protecting us from terrorists attacks. That is cool and all, but what about American on American crime that happen everyday. 9/11 this, 9/11 that...are we holding mass memorials for everyone that was murdered in Washington, DC last year? Another thing that annoys me is calling these men heros and praising them. Its like going to the military automatically make you some type of great person. You have all these men in the military and i'm supposed to believe they are all saints. Back to the ROTC presentation, I think the people were booing what he had to say instead of actually booing him. Only reason you guys think its despicable is because he is a handicap person. Why would the military send him him anyway? I'll take a look at him and say "I don't want to end up like that". You go defend country and then come back crippled, but get called a hero and honored while your friends go on to live a happy legs and 4 limbs and a functioning brain...nah its not worth it. ...oh boy lol. I'm pretty far left liberal and am really indifferent to the ROTC but this is a bit out there dude. If I'm reading this right, you are saying that they boo'd him because they think its worth it to become handicapped like him? I'm pretty sure the military sent him because he exemplifies what a "hero" is, he went ABOVE his duty to the country. I'll give him his dues for that, so should have the students, even if they disagreed with the message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Fried Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Having said that I am failing to see how this is so despicable. I wouldn't even expect you to say that. Come on, man. If the school name was blacked out, you'd have about a 25% chance of guessing which school it was. ---------- Post added February-21st-2011 at 06:26 PM ---------- This Alex Maschek guy...the presentation seemed off to me. The "other parts of the country are plotting to kill you" line was weird. That is another thing that bothers me when people praise the military for protecting us from terrorists attacks. That is cool and all, but what about American on American crime that happen everyday. 9/11 this, 9/11 that...are we holding mass memorials for everyone that was murdered in Washington, DC last year? Another thing that annoys me is calling these men heros and praising them. Its like going to the military automatically make you some type of great person. You have all these men in the military and i'm supposed to believe they are all saints. Back to the ROTC presentation, I think the people were booing what he had to say instead of actually booing him. Only reason you guys think its despicable is because he is a handicap person. Why would the military send him him anyway? I'll take a look at him and say "I don't want to end up like that". You go defend country and then come back crippled, but get called a hero and honored while your friends go on to live a happy legs and 4 limbs and a functioning brain...nah its not worth it. THIS IS WHY OUR COUNTRY IS DYING. So they aren't heroes? This is just another job? For some it is. For some it's a calling. It doesn't matter, because anyone who lives in a foreign country with no comforts and no friends and no family to fight for my country and all of us, all the while running the risk of getting killed or injured so badly that life is a living hell, that is a hero. What in the hell makes a hero in your book? You must have done some pretty damn near divine deeds to not think of these guys as heroes. I also find it outright pathetic that you find it strange that he says people are plotting to kill you. You know what, if you don't, I just don't have anything to say. 9/11 has been forgotten. Nowadays, it's a chore to think about and remember it. I sure hope another 9/11 never ever happens, but you are the insane one if you don't think people out there are trying to do it all over again. People are trying to kill you. This soldier is one of the brave who are trying to keep you safe. There is no way everyone on here who thinks it's despicable does so because he's crippled. They think so because he has put his life on the line for me and you. They could send someone who'd never been grazed by a bullet, and I'd have the same respect. All I have to say is you probably don't know too many servicemen. And if you do, you're just not paying attention to what they say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spec138 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 If the school name was blacked out, you'd have about a 25% chance of guessing which school it was. 0% because I hoped this kind of **** only happened at UCB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 This Alex Maschek guy...the presentation seemed off to me. The "other parts of the country are plotting to kill you" line was weird. That is another thing that bothers me when people praise the military for protecting us from terrorists attacks. That is cool and all, but what about American on American crime that happen everyday. 9/11 this, 9/11 that...are we holding mass memorials for everyone that was murdered in Washington, DC last year? Another thing that annoys me is calling these men heros and praising them. Its like going to the military automatically make you some type of great person. You have all these men in the military and i'm supposed to believe they are all saints. Yeah lets ignore the idea of being the beacon of freedom and being the standard bearer for what most of the world envies, because we should rate hoodrats, chicken heads and other human scum who are killed or kill the innocent as something more significant. How very Isolationist of you. Nobody expects snivelers, haters or the self centered to respect my troops but that does not mean they deserve disrespect either. Back to the ROTC presentation, I think the people were booing what he had to say instead of actually booing him. Only reason you guys think its despicable is because he is a handicap person. Why would the military send him him anyway? I'll take a look at him and say "I don't want to end up like that". You go defend country and then come back crippled, but get called a hero and honored while your friends go on to live a happy legs and 4 limbs and a functioning brain...nah its not worth it. Yeah sort of like why should the police respond to a call from people like you while they are attacked or why should firefighters counties and cities away show up to help fight fires? Its just not worth putting their life in danger for the unappreciative,right? Not saying that I completely advocate turning a blind eye on those some would call dingleberries who don't know how lucky they have it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 About what I would expect from the intolerant bigots there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wantarace17 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 i think we should ship everyone who booed to Afghanistan for a month or two... lets see who is booing then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjah Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Disagree with the wars all you want, but direct your hatred towards the suits in Washington who sent these guys over there...not the men and women who are fighting and dying every day to keep us alive and give douchebags like that the right to boo a true hero. Well said. That's ashame. I never served our country but those people at Coumbia sound like a bunch of ungrateful neo hippies. Some of "those people at Columbia" sound like a bunch of ungrateful neo-hippies. Listening to the audio of this guy's comments, most of the audience was respectful. The moderator certainly was, as he directly told the catcallers to cut it out, and you can get a sense for the large audience size when everyone applauds the vet's remarks at the end. Compare that against the smattering of jeers from the dumbass contingent while he's talking, and I think the true nature of "those people at Columbia" becomes more clear. Be it a group of morons heckling a disabled vet at Columbia or a rogue moron heckling the President during a speech before Congress, the inconsiderate brain-dead dumbasses are always the ones who hog the spotlight for themselves. But they don't represent the majority of the audience. Not even close. "Oversubscribed A-hole" is a state of mind; only the targets change as a function of political whim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebluefood Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 This Alex Maschek guy...the presentation seemed off to me. The "other parts of the country are plotting to kill you" line was weird. That is another thing that bothers me when people praise the military for protecting us from terrorists attacks. That is cool and all, but what about American on American crime that happen everyday. 9/11 this, 9/11 that...are we holding mass memorials for everyone that was murdered in Washington, DC last year? Another thing that annoys me is calling these men heros and praising them. Its like going to the military automatically make you some type of great person. You have all these men in the military and i'm supposed to believe they are all saints. Back to the ROTC presentation, I think the people were booing what he had to say instead of actually booing him. Only reason you guys think its despicable is because he is a handicap person. Why would the military send him him anyway? I'll take a look at him and say "I don't want to end up like that". You go defend country and then come back crippled, but get called a hero and honored while your friends go on to live a happy legs and 4 limbs and a functioning brain...nah its not worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 I am vehemently against our involvement in the middle east and am full withdraw at once, with no warning and even I find this disrespectful. I'm also a vet, who is in the joining the military (regardless of getting shot) does not automatically make anybody a "hero". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baculus Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 This is another take on this incident: "But then I found this audio file of Maschek's comments, and what I heard wasn't anywhere near what I would call 'heckling.' There's incredulous laughter after he warns the other students there are 'bad men out there plotting to kill you,' and you can hear someone say "racist" at one point. But the moderator quickly rebuked them and warned them against any more outbreaks. "The students laughed because like many of us, they've grown so skeptical of the justifications for these wars, and the 'bad men' remark was treated as just another excuse. Someone did call Maschek a racist, presumably because to them, it sounded like he was lumping all Muslims together as terrorists. (It didn't sound that way to me.)" http://crooksandliars.com/ To me, we have a double standard here, because, as this Crooks & Liars article says, some people want to pain all liberals and progressives as simply hating on the military, as opposed to having genuine issues with our country's foreign policy. I also found the "bad men" remark to be a bit absurd, because that sort of sentiment led us to invading an entire country partially due to faulty evidence. Yes, there are evil men out there, but we ain't making things any better. Look at the Middle East and all the autocratic regimes falling despite of efforts to invade Islamic countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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