skins4ever17 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Your thoughts on this? I think we need a center or guard in the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukes and Skins Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Your thoughts on this? I think we need a center or guard in the first. Well lets be realistic too, there's not an OG or OC worth a 1st round pick, so while you may like the idea of doing it, there's no way I see us reaching poorly for an OL and bypassing a talent like Julio Jones, Von Miller, Marcell Dareus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEAUX SAINTS Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 None worth 10th pick, if trading down to end of 1st then Pouncey could be a good pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABSTRACT Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 We had the last ranked defense We are transitioning to a 3-4 defense This draft class is one of the strongest in a while in terms of huge defensive ends, nose tackles, and outside rushing linebackers (all of these positions are significant to a 3-4 defense) There are some key offensive linemen we can pick up in the following free agency period Our offensive line is actually a middle of the pack group that began to grow together at the end of the season We're getting Mike Williams back next year at RG and there are no OL (especially ZBS linemen) worth the top 25 picks Encompassing all of those facts....I can't find a reason in which drafting an offensive linemen with the #10 pick would be feasible. I actually hope we go defense in rounds 1 and 2 (JJ Watt & Phil Taylor). Leonard Hankerson is the only exception for offense in rounds 1 and 2 imo. On a side note, Hopefully we can get Ricky Stanzi or Kaepernick in the later rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrifNick21 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Only O-lineman I would take at 10 is Tyron Smith. Other than that, no thanks unless they trade down. Value's not there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirt Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Kind of funny to think...what if last years 1st round was devoid of any Oline talent worth a first round pick? With Samuels retiring, we were in DESPERATE need of a LT. Would we have gotten one anyway? Would it have been a blessing in disguise, as we would have drafted someone like Eric Berry, and made do with a mid round guy at LT? Would the Oline had really been that much worse? Would we have won less than 6 games? In other words, in a year that you have the 4th overall, we were pretty lucky to have our choice between Trent and Okung. It's not nearly as pressing this year. I was saying last year that we should just go Oline 1st round for the next 3 years no matter what, and I was only halfway joking. Vinny destroyed this Oline and its depth. But considering we have Trent, and Shanny's knowledge of the ZBS, I don't think there's any reason to force another guy in there with the 10th overall. It's not a bad place to be, there should be some pretty good defensive help there, and really plenty of QBs to choose from. I personally hope we go DE or LB. If you're suddenly without a LT going into the draft, it's a no brainer to draft one. Just as when you go into the draft after putting up the 32nd ranked defense, it's a no brainer to go, uh, defense. Maybe even more so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk4theHall81 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 As others have said no ol coming out this year is worth top 10. There should be a few ol worth looking at in the 2nd. Rodney Hudson from FSU and Steven Wisnewski(sp) from PSU just to name 2. I think we have to go D with the first pick, Von Miller is our best hope. I'd love to see Marcel Dareus fall too but would put him behind Miller. If If we can trade down in the first and you want to target an ol I'd go for Gabe Carimi from Wisc or Mike Pouncey from Fla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chump Bailey Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 I'd take Tyron Smith or Derek Sherrod in the first without question. These are guys you can likely plug in and forget about for the next decade to steal one of my favorite Mayock expressions. We'd have outstanding bookends for years to come. I like skill players as much as anyone and the DL in this draft are deep, but I would still be very content landing either of these guys at #10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyvern Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 I think this may evolve into the old Need vs. Best Player Available (BPA) question. I'd note that the Redskins have lots of "Needs" being created as they re-tool the team -- so they can probably go BPA and still fill a Need! That said, it seems like there's more Need with the defensive front 7 than the Offensive front 5. (Of course, a lot will depend on what we can do in free agency.) I'm leaning towards a one-two pick of either BPA (LB?) /NT, .....or NT/OLB .....or NT/C. O-line seems slightly less needy. While it would be great to have a premier Center ©, I've noted that Shanahan's system doesn't require that monster center that usually gets drafted in the first three rounds. And depending on Brown's 2011 status, we might already have a RT. Lastly, there are a lot of current candidates at G who Shanahan has been grooming and maybe only the RG slot needing to be filled. But the defensive front seven is riddled with needs. Age, system fit, contract status, and even talent level -- are all causes demanding the Skins try to infuse new players here. And some will have to be brought in by the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Best player available at a need positiong is what I'm rooting for. If you think there's a Steve Hutchinson out there then he's worth a first rounder. If you think there's a Russ Grimm out there grab him too (even though poor Russ really suffered on draft day back in the day), but if there's a great d-linemen (my hope would be NT, but NT or DE is fine) or an incredible outside linebacker then that's the way to go. I'd be happy with a O-linemen in the first, but he's got to be the best or very close to the best guy available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 There are absolutely NO offensive linemen worth taking at #10. I don't like the mock drafts saying we're going to take Tryon Smith, either. I'm not big on him and I think our team has so many holes, with so many better players that we could draft to plug those holes than Tryon Smith. I rank JJ Watt higher than Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 The value in this draft in the top 10 is in the defensive front 7, corner or WR. There will also almost certainly be 2 QBs taken top 10 as well (Newton and Gabbert). You can make a case for any of those positions being a need but if Gabbert is off the board when we pick I would go with a DE or OLB depending who is still on the board when we pick. I'm hoping for Gabbert but think he will be gone, outside of him I hope JJ Watt is the pick personally. I look for us to address C/G in the 2nd round when there are a number of interior O'Lineman who project to still be available when we pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldfan Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 The only O-line position worth a #1 pick is the LT. If there's another Ryan Clady in the draft, and no stud at the QB position, we should take him and move Trent to the right side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 The only O-line position worth a #1 pick is the LT. If there's another Ryan Clady in the draft, and no stud at the QB position, we should take him and move Trent to the right side. I don't think there's anyone that good in the draft, to be honest with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Probos Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 I think most would agree that there's no OL prospects worth drafting with the 10th overall pick this year,...that said Nate Solder is a solid looking OT that will probably go some where in the middle of the 1st. My hope is they don't draft a QB @10 because I feel the exact same way when it comes to that position as well. Plenty of great prospects at DL, LB,...a few WR's. I would hope they could find a way to trade down and get an extra pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsCrushCowboys Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 not with the #10, but YES in the first, specifically a center, the kid from Penn State Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdigle Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Just saw this latest, 2-round, mock draft from sbnation: http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2011/2/14/1991938/2011-nfl-mock-draft-combine-two-rounds\ I'm not sold on Julio Jones (I'm thinking Aldon Smith would be the best pick here), but I love who we have taking in the 2nd round. Talk about our luck turning around if he's still available at 41. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrelgreenie Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 I've seen some mocks that have Tyron Smith/Derrek Sherrod in the top 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tris Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 To be honest, I'd almost rather take Ijalana than Pouncey at 41. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morpheusmeyers Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 I've seen some mocks that have Tyron Smith/Derrek Sherrod in the top 12. I saw a mock last week that had Smith going to us at #10. That seems a bit high to me, but he is rising. I think I would feel more comfortable taking Smith if we could move down even just a few spots. Let's say Newton is there at #10 and we work a deal with Minnesota to move down to #14. Take Smith at #14 and pay him less money than you would at #10 and scoop up another pick...even if it's in the 3rd or 4th round. I would have no issue with us taking Smith at #10, though. You can't have enough quality offensive linemen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukes and Skins Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 To be honest, I'd almost rather take Ijalana than Pouncey at 41. That's how I am now I'd love a draft where we got Ijalana at LG and then got Carpenter at RT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tris Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 and pay him less money than you would at #10 FWIW, there will be no rookie contracts signed until there is a new CBA, and no matter what else is in the new CBA, a rookie wage scale is a guarantee. So this is at least something we will not have to worry too much about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morpheusmeyers Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 FWIW, there will be no rookie contracts signed until there is a new CBA, and no matter what else is in the new CBA, a rookie wage scale is a guarantee.So this is at least something we will not have to worry too much about. Thanks for pointing that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins-Canes-Mounties Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 In this draft, I wouldn't go with an OG or Center at ten, but if we move back, then we should start taking a look, depending on how far we drop. There should be some solid talent available when we pick in the second round for one of those positions. I'm not a fan of Pouncey in the first round if we trade back. He isn't his brother. If he was, he would have left last year too. He's a nice player, but somebody will probably reach a little on him because of his brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thirtyfive2seven Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Just saw this latest, 2-round, mock draft from sbnation:http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2011/2/14/1991938/2011-nfl-mock-draft-combine-two-rounds\ I'm not sold on Julio Jones (I'm thinking Aldon Smith would be the best pick here), but I love who we have taking in the 2nd round. Talk about our luck turning around if he's still available at 41. I don't think taking a WR at #10 is a good idea but I have to admit that mock draft is one of the better ones I've seen and the most realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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