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A Very Serious Question for ASF and Others: Why Don't You Walk Away?

kleese

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a bad owner can rob a team of its fan base over time. it's not that fans just stop watching, but the heightened interest that fans show on Sunday morning for a 1pm game just gets sapped.

you can look around at teams where the ownership has been very poor, teams like the old Bidwill Cardinals and the current Buffalo Bills.

fans have just withdrawn.

I know that the past two seasons I've been a lot less enthusiastic about watching games. I used to make sure i reserved the 3 hours on Sunday to watch the game (and only the game). I'd come on here and BS with other fans in the thread and stuff. But lately, I've used that time as an opportunity to catch up on reading, do some math problems, do some grading, etc. I still have the game on in the background, but now that I've grown to expect bad stuff, its not too fun watching it happen.

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Bulldog,

I totally agree with your above post- where there is smoke there's fire; Snyder has probably earned well over half of the negative press he received. But he is not a political leader or the president of the school board; I don't believe a revolt can stop or change him and I don't think it should. It's a free country; he bought the team and it's his right to be a jerk. Its my right to walk away or continue supporting the team he owns. Engaging in smear campaigns and protests just stoops to a level I don't want to be at; it's just my point of view and I don't think anyone is in the wrong for doing otherwise. But I do believe it is a waste of time and energy.

Well, that's what's so sad about it. For those of us who grew up in this area, the Washington Redskins used to be a huge part of our local culture. That was something that really brought us together (especially immigrants like my family) and it's something I always hoped I would share with my own children and neighbors and friends.

But what you say is true, with Snyder in charge, there is very little reason to spend the time and energy on this team that we did in the 70s and 80s. Fast forward to 2020 and even fewer people will care any more. In a very real sense, Snyder has destroyed a big part of our DC culture.

My wife and I won't renew our club seats. As if we needed any more reason, bullying reporters is not something we will sponsor with one dime of our family's money. And others will give up on their tickets over time as we all find better more positive things to do on Sundays.

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Bulldog,

I totally agree with your above post- where there is smoke there's fire; Snyder has probably earned well over half of the negative press he received. But he is not a political leader or the president of the school board; I don't believe a revolt can stop or change him and I don't think it should. It's a free country; he bought the team and it's his right to be a jerk. Its my right to walk away or continue supporting the team he owns. Engaging in smear campaigns and protests just stoops to a level I don't want to be at; it's just my point of view and I don't think anyone is in the wrong for doing otherwise. But I do believe it is a waste of time and energy.

I'm trying to nail down your position.

Who is engaging in smear campaigns? McKenna or McKenna and posters who side with him in this lawsuit?

Are fan protests equal to smear campaigns in sinking to a "lower level?"

Is your stance on this on a practical -- "waste of time and energy" or a moral base -- "sinking to a lower level?"

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kleese

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See, it's still the same passion for me as it was 25 years ago. I feel the same about the Redskins as I did when I was a kid. No change at all. Snyder can't take anything away from you unless you let him. I choose to not let him.

Well, that's what's so sad about it. For those of us who grew up in this area, the Washington Redskins used to be a huge part of our local culture. That was something that really brought us together (especially immigrants like my family) and it's something I always hoped I would share with my own children and neighbors and friends.

But what you say is true, with Snyder in charge, there is very little reason to spend the time and energy on this team that we did in the 70s and 80s. Fast forward to 2020 and even fewer people will care any more. In a very real sense, Snyder has destroyed a big part of our DC culture.

My wife and I won't renew our club seats. As if we needed any more reason, bullying reporters is not something we will sponsor with one dime of our family's money. And others will give up on their tickets over time as we all find better more positive things to do on Sundays.

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Actually my life does revolve around my career/family/friends. This is supposed to be a fun distraction that has turned into a debacle of epic proportions.

Well if it is only a distraction, people shouldn't get so worked up about it.

---------- Post added February-6th-2011 at 04:38 PM ----------

You do realize that the name of this website is "Extremeskins?"

Yep.

Just helps to focus on what is actually important.

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Pointless thread because any real fan of a team doesn't just walk away from that team. Whether it's good times or bad times you ride it out. I'm a fan of the team, not Dan Synder. He's not out there playing the games he's just financing it. You don't scrap a product because you don't like the investor, you go out and find new people to fund it.

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If your life revolves around what 53 men do on 16 Sundays throughout the year, you should spend more time on your family/career/hobbies.

meh, what a cop-out.

Did anyone here imply that the Washington Redskins mean more to them than their wives and children? No.

I WOULD say my 'life revolves around the Redskins' but it's just a figure of speech, after all.

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Pointless thread because any real fan of a team doesn't just walk away from that team. Whether it's good times or bad times you ride it out. I'm a fan of the team, not Dan Synder. He's not out there playing the games he's just financing it. You don't scrap a product because you don't like the investor, you go out and find new people to fund it.

Umm, Snyder is a pretty young. I'm going to ask my kids to "ride it out" until things get better when they're like 50? Remember, we can't go find "new people to fund it". I'll always root for the Skins. But my kids are losing interest in going to the games or even watching them on TV. Their best friends in school are Ravens fans and Steelers fans and Cowboys fans. So my kids are just as interested in those teams as the Skins. And I don't blame them. When I was 12, most of my friends in school or in the neighborhood were diehard Redskins fans and that became part of our culture. No so any more at all, even here in northern virginia just miles from Redskins Park.

We may want to think of it as "our team". But it's really his team. And it's getting harder and harder to justify financing his team (which is what we all are doing when we watch, buy jerseys, buy tickets, etc.) Snyder doesn't finance the team. He COLLECTS money from the fanbase. It's the only thing that he makes money on now that all his other businesses have turned to **** because of his own massive insecurities.

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Kid Zoloft

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The Redskins are included in some of my earliest memories. Nothing can change that. It's part of who I am.

The issue for me is that now, because of his less than honorable practices and behavior, Mr Snyder has made

made me feel as though cheering for my team is the equivalent to clubbing babby seals, ridiculing the handicapped

and not recycling.

Are there meetings I can attend for this or something?

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Kid Zoloft

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I've cheered for this team since I was a little kid. I also never use to recycle, lived in a house with asbestos and did drugs.

I'm feeling much better about "me" now. This team is feeling more and more like a drug addiction.

Word. My name use to be "Mr Happy Skins Fan". Now look at me.

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I don't walk away because I can't walk away. Unlike fans who have walked away, I have too much pride for the city of Washington. D.C. and the Redskins are inextricably linked. Unless you can export the 'Skins and import a new team, I'll never give up on them. My loyalty stays to D.C.-based sports teams and that's that.

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I don't walk away because I can't walk away. Unlike fans who have walked away, I have too much pride for the city of Washington. D.C. and the Redskins are inextricably linked. Unless you can export the 'Skins and import a new team, I'll never give up on them. My loyalty stays to D.C.-based sports teams and that's that.

This. As I've mentioned before on the boards, my roots in Washington stretch back to the early 1800s. I AM a Washingtonian. Hell, I didn't even root for the O's before the Nats came to town because they weren't a Washington team.

(Before anyone gets started, University of Maryland is in PG County which boarders Washington. That's close enough)

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This. As I've mentioned before on the boards, my roots in Washington stretch back to the early 1800s. I AM a Washingtonian. Hell, I didn't even root for the O's before the Nats came to town because they weren't a Washington team.

(Before anyone gets started, University of Maryland is in PG County which boarders Washington. That's close enough)

Its not the university of Washintong Dc.. just saying haha

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It's a free country; he bought the team and it's his right to be a jerk.

Even though I believe anyone who is an NFL owner has to have a pretty healthy ego, don't you think that some of Snyder's "jerk" tendencies have impacted some of the decisions made in his time as owner?

Overall Kleese, I agree with you.......but also realize that its pretty easy for you and me to say. You and I have the "good memories." Those 30 and younger have scant few, mostly having experienced a miserable team.

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kleese

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Even though I believe anyone who is an NFL owner has to have a pretty healthy ego, don't you think that some of Snyder's "jerk" tendencies have impacted some of the decisions made in his time as owner?

Overall Kleese, I agree with you.......but also realize that its pretty easy for you and me to say. You and I have the "good memories." Those 30 and younger have scant few, mostly having experienced a miserable team.

I wonder if that makes it easier or harder?

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