When La gets a team should that team leave it's colors/records with old city?

[addicted]

I think LA will get a relocated team, maybe even 2, within the next 2-4 years.

Probably right, they've talked about this for a long long time.

The relocating possibilities:

Vikings, Chargers, Raiders, 49ers, Jaguars, Bills-after Ralph Wilson dies.

The only teams who should be allowed to move is the Jaguars and the Chargers. The others have too much of a history to do that and it will be a very sad day for the league to see the Vikings, 49ers, or Bills no longer around. I don't understand why the NFL has the right to award franchises like they awarded Jacksonville in the early 1990's but don't have the right to block a move. If an owner is a Richard and just wants more money then the NFL Commishioner should block that move and not allow it out of respect to the game. I know it's not going to happen but I think it would be a travesty to see the 49ers not in San Francisco or the Vikings not in Minnesota or the Bills somewhere other then Buffalo.

Should the relocated team leave the old name, records, colors behind and start anew? Or just bring the relocate name and records with them?

It's been done both ways...The Ravens were the Browns, the Colts Rams and Cardnails were named for other cities. I think it's weird how the Ravens deal worked. The Browns disappeared for a few years and then were back. Did that help the fans more then the Browns being moved to another city? I don't know but if it were up to me I'd force the owners to keep the old team name until such time another franchise would be put up to replace the lost one. For example if I were king and the Chargers wanted to move to LA out of respect to the history of the team that new franchise in LA would be called the Chargers until such time comes when a new NFL team in San Deigo arrives. If that team in San Diego comes in 3 years for 3 years the LA team would be called the Chargers and on the 4th year would get a new name. So for the Baltimore Colts for example, when they left Bmore for the years when there was no team there Indy would be called the Colts but once a team was back in Bmore they would get the original name back.

[MrJL]

I don't like the idea of teams moving around. If a owner wants to go to another city/state, then they should have to sell the current franchise and start over with a new team. They did their market research when they became owners. In most cases, the quality of play is the problem, not the local market for a team. Nonetheless, the USA market is well-saturated with NFL teams. Eventually, they will have to get Canada and possibly European franchises for expansion. Mexico would be good if they can get rid of the drug cartels and corruption.

right now the concern for expansion would be division realignments.

Frankly I feel like the NFL should hope for another AFL or AAFC situation, with a league popping up and being successful enough to be worth a merger, instead of expanding within.

[Mania]

This. San Diego is good enough for the likes of them.

If they do get a team, though, it'll probably be Jacksonville. At the same time, I do believe the colors and records should stay there. I say that only because I have to wonder what I would think proper if (and by that, I mean hypothetically because it will never happen) the Redskins left town. I'd fully expect the city of Washington to fight like hell to keep the name, colors, records, and everything else that has anything to do with the Redskins, in D.C. I'm sure Jags fan, where ever they are, would want the same thing.

Many teams have moved in the past and taken the colors until the most recent moves, i.e. the Ravens. The Redskins came from Boston and brought the colors.

---------- Post added February-1st-2011 at 08:41 AM ----------

How can we send Snyder to LA and get the Chargers?

a man can dream.

You've got to be kidding me.....................Do you really want Norv Turner back?

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

One of my best friends works for Casey Wasserman, who is spearheading the effort to bring a team to LA.

He says it's definitely going to happen and soon. The Chargers could be playing in LA as soon as 2013. Heck, Farmers Insurance has already purchased the naming rights of the stadium for some huge amount of money. I'm sure the uniforms will change at least slightly so so they can sell tons of new jerseys.

Personally I would prefer the Rams, but I'll just be happy to have football in my adopted city. I think a team will do great here, especially if the stadium is downtown. I'll get tickets for sure. Nothing beats tailgating in 75 degree weather.

The stadium will be privately funded and state of the art. Retractable roof, HD monitors all over the place, etc... Apparently they've done studies where they've shown that the stadium would pay for itself in ten years even if a team didn't come here. Because of Super Bowls, concerts, Final Four, etc..

---------- Post added January-31st-2011 at 09:42 PM ----------

Yes. Couldn't agree more.

Downtown LA is changing so fast. Everytime I go to a Laker game it seems like something new has been built nearby.

I haven't been to LA in three years, but I went pretty much yearly from the late 90s to about 2007. And - yea - every year, there was something new "downtown." A football stadium would be the topper.

And, yes, something like Lucas Oil Stadium in downtown LA would be a huge piggybank.

I'm imagining the USC-UCLA game, a Final Four, all-star games, a Lakers-Celtics Christmas Day game, an NBA all-star game, a Super Bowl, a special prime-time Grammy awards concert. In LA, the possibilities are endless with what you could do.

[Destino]

You've got to be kidding me.....................Do you really want Norv Turner back?

It's a sacrifice I'm willing to make all things considered. lol

[pjfootballer]

It's been done both ways...The Ravens were the Browns, the Colts Rams and Cardnails were named for other cities. I think it's weird how the Ravens deal worked. The Browns disappeared for a few years and then were back. Did that help the fans more then the Browns being moved to another city? I don't know but if it were up to me I'd force the owners to keep the old team name until such time another franchise would be put up to replace the lost one. For example if I were king and the Chargers wanted to move to LA out of respect to the history of the team that new franchise in LA would be called the Chargers until such time comes when a new NFL team in San Deigo arrives. If that team in San Diego comes in 3 years for 3 years the LA team would be called the Chargers and on the 4th year would get a new name. So for the Baltimore Colts for example, when they left Bmore for the years when there was no team there Indy would be called the Colts but once a team was back in Bmore they would get the original name back.

That would be a logistical and cost nightmare for a team to take the name and colors to a new city and then have to give it back after 3 years. I hate that Baltimore lost the Colts name, but if you look at the history of teams moving, many teams have taken the name with them. The Rams started in Cleveland, moved to LA and now St. Louis. The Cardinals started in Chicago, moved to St. Louis and now Arizona. The Chargers started out in LA in their first season.

I was glad Cleveland was able to keep the Browns name. What else would they be named? If I had my choice, I'd rather see Jacksonville of all teams go to LA. They were the worst selection the NFL could have made. Baltimore should have been chosen over them. I was glad to see Houston, Cleveland and Baltimore get teams back. None of their fans deserved to have the team move.

[Hitman21ST]

I was glad Cleveland was able to keep the Browns name. What else would they be named? If I had my choice, I'd rather see Jacksonville of all teams go to LA. They were the worst selection the NFL could have made. Baltimore should have been chosen over them. I was glad to see Houston, Cleveland and Baltimore get teams back. None of their fans deserved to have the team move.

Just think, if the Browns never moved to Baltimore, then Cleveland would have a Super Bowl by now (assuming they draft the same players the Ravens did)

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

Unless I'm mistaken, the Browns' situation is the only time in history where a city got to keep a team's "history." I just think that after the Colts' debacle, the NFL didn't want another PR fight and Cleveland was incensed over that move.

Houston loved the Oilers and that team had quite a history, but the city didn't fight for the team's name. Living here, the strange this is how many fans the Titans still have. Fans here actually transferred their loyalties, it seems - though it's possible that Vince Young plays a large role in that too. No one in Cleveland cheered for the Ravens.

[nonniey]

I imagine that if its not an expansion, but in fact a relocation, then it will be for financial reasons. For example, the Jaguars. Its just an area that really can't support an NFL team.

In that case, I think you leave the colors and name behind, but can take the records. Because its the same team, just moved to a new city. Might even have the same owner.

The only reason I think the colors/name should stay is because I think when you move, you need to create a new identity, even if you do keep the records, etc. of the "old" team. Like the Oilers becoming the Titans in Tennessee.

I also think that not only should the colors/name be left behind....they should also be permanently "locked". For instance, the Houston Texans should never have been able to call themselves the Oilers, even though it was a city that used to have the team.

But, it really depends. Some teams have a history in LA, and it might be appropriate to keep the name/colors.

Im diametrically opposed to your thinking in this area. I believe the Name and colors are tied to the team and not the location and if a city manages to retain the name they get the record and colors too. Much like the Browns/Ravens situation turned out. Addtionally I think Houston should have been able to use Oilers since the Titans forfeited the name and imo records when they changed the name.