andyburd Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Not even close, the Ravens have winners, we have losers. Sorry, but the truth hurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDane Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Not fair to Taylor to put him in the discussion. Though I'd probably trade Moss, Portis, and McIntosh for Ed Reed alone. Alright, maybe not Moss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkabong82 Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Not even close, the Ravens have winners, we have losers.Sorry, but the truth hurts Except you're not talking truth. This thread is specifically about ST, CP, and Rocky vs. Reed, McGahee, and Lewis. Looking at their careers as a whole, none of those guys are losers. If you're pissed at the current team fine, but your frusration is misguided in this thread. We're talking specific players, not the overall teams. ---------- Post added January-14th-2011 at 11:30 PM ---------- Taylor was great and all, but you guys are really not giving Reed justice. He's probably one of the best FS of all time... the guy is ridiculous. I'm not sure Taylor could have ever reached where Reed is now. Taylor had the potential to be one of the greatest of all time as well, but most in here it seems have said Reed is a future HOFer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Yeah I wouldn't make a winners vs losers argument on this. Football is the ultimate team sports. But the Ravens still destroy this contest. Two of their three are arguably the greatest of all time at their positions. You can't even begin to approach that discussion with the Skins players. (And I hate having Taylor in this debate. I don't feel comfortable talking about his potential career. And that's ultimately what this comes down to.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 **** it, I'm a homer and I miss Sean Taylor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted January 15, 2011 Author Share Posted January 15, 2011 Yeah I wouldn't make a winners vs losers argument on this. Football is the ultimate team sports. But the Ravens still destroy this contest. Two of their three are arguably the greatest of all time at their positions. You can't even begin to approach that discussion with the Skins players.(And I hate having Taylor in this debate. I don't feel comfortable talking about his potential career. And that's ultimately what this comes down to.) I'm not trying to sound like an ass for saying this, but if you don't feel comfortable talking about his potential, then you really don't need to post in here. No disrespect intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 the ravens have one of the best linebackers of all time, potentially one of the best safeties of all time, and a mediocre running back. the skins had a safety that was amazing coming into his prime, a top tier runningback, and a mediocre linebacker. ill take the the two top defenders in the league plzkthx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laxpunk2006 Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Ravens run away with this one. Clinton Portis is a better back than McGahee. After that the Ravens win at every position. Sean Taylor seemed to be developing into something really special. Ed Reed has already proven to be that type of player. Sean was doing a great job being a game changer in his last season here but that is just the norm for Reed. He's a HOF player. Ray Lewis is one of the all time greats and probably the best I've been able to see. Rocky is above average. Santana Moss is a good WR but Lewis and Reed are good enough that it just doesn't compare. There are some real homers on this site to have voted for our crew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hail26 Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Hail Portis Hail Moss Hail Rocky Hail ST For Life F THE RAVENS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzy Dunlop Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Ravens by a country mile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darklight1216 Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Random useless information: Only nine players have ever topped 1,000 yards on interceptions. Six are in the hall of fame (including Krause, Woodson, Night Trane Lane) one of them is Deion Sanders and the other two are Darren Sharper and Ed Reed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewCliche21 Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Ummmmmmmmmm. Look at darklight's quote in his signature. Ray Lewis is a murdering deity. Portis by a mile and lightyear. Taylor, though, would've topped Reed. Because he can't anymore, I'd say that Reed is literally the GOAT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Ravens. Reed and Lewis are two of the most dominant defensive players of all time, and McGahee, while he hasn't had quite the career that Portis has, has been pretty solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 The Ravens have been more successful than us. Ray Lewis is likely a HOFer. Reed may be too, and ST was on pace for an amazing career.I'd have to give the edge to Baltimore though. Ray Lewis is a first ballot Hall of Famer, and Ed Reed is definitely going in as well, maybe not first ballot, but he's going in. Sean could have been great, but .. Portis has had some great numbers, better than McGahee. McIntosh shouldn't even be mentioned in the company of Reed or Lewis, other than that they have the same Alma Mater. Santana Moss has been a good Redskin. Not great, but he's certainly had his moments. But the fact Ray Ray plays for Baltimore tilts it in their favor. He's one of the best ever at his position. That's a big trump card. ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCsFavoriteAirman Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Are the Redskins in the playoffs? Oh, that's right. We never go. Hope that answers your question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallascrushers Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Unfortunately....the Ravens have a huge edge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrong Direction Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 In order of greatness (actual accomplishments): Ray Lewis Ed Reed Clinton Portis Santana Moss Sean Taylor Willis McGahee Rocky McIntosh Ray and Ed are sooooooooo much better than the rest that it's not even comparable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hail26 Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 As an aside, which linebacker from the U has been better/had a better career: Vilma or Lewis? Lewis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss_Hogg Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Baltimore, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan190 Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Your talking about 2 first ballot Hall of Famers in Lewis and Reed vs a good runningback and overdrafted olb. ST would have been a Hall of Famer imo but I'd still give it to the Balt boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss_Hogg Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Well, we have the obvious... Lewis > McIntosh Portis > McGahee Taylor = Reed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSkins561 Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Ray Lewis is one of the all time greats at LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipwhich Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Well, we have the obvious... Lewis > McIntosh Portis > McGahee Taylor = Reed? You got 2 right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted January 16, 2011 Author Share Posted January 16, 2011 Well, we have the obvious... Lewis > McIntosh Portis > McGahee Taylor = Reed? Lewis >>> McIntosh McGahee < Portis Taylor = Reed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticksboi05 Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Ravens no question. Argue all you want about Taylor, Ed Reed is insane and a future Hall of Famer and Taylor, as high as his potential was, was never better than Reed during his short career. He is the epitome of a defensive play maker and was 2004 defensive MVP. Ray Lewis - 2 defensive MVP's and a Superbowl MVP, enough said. Portis easily over McGahee but not enough. Portis >> McGahee McIntosh <<<<<< Lewis Taylor < Reed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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