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This is a PowerSpec G210 tower only for 1499.00

Good value? Is the PowerSpec brand any good?

Intel® Core i7-2600K Unlocked

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit)

8GB DDR3-1333

(2) 1TB 7,200RPM Hard Drives (RAID 0)

64GB SSD Boot Drive

22x DVD±RW Drive

8-in-1 Digital Card Reader

(2) ATi Radeon HD 5750

10/100/1000 Network

802.11b/g/n Wireless

Display Not Included

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The PowerSpec G210 Desktop Computer featuring the Intel Core i7 2600K Unlocked processor and Intel DP67BG system board provides the stability and reliability for your most demanding computing needs. Designed for the ultimate in performance gaming, digital content creation, and picture/video editing, this loaded system also includes a 64GB solid state boot drive, a powerful ATI CrossFire video solution featuring two ATI Radeon 5750 PCIe graphics cards, each with 1GB discrete DDR5 video memory. All of these features are complemented by the Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit operating system.

General Features

Color Black

Operating System Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit)

Motherboard DP67BG Extreme

Motherboard Chipset Intel® P67 Express Chipset

Processor Intel® Core i7-2600K Processor

Processor Speed 3.4GHz

Level 2 Cache 4 x 256KB Level 2 Cache

Level 3 Cache 8MB

RAM Installed / Max RAM Supported 8GB DDR3-1333 RAM (Expandable to 16GB)

Memory Configuration (4) 2GB DIMM Memory Modules

Memory Slots Available (0) Available 240-pin DIMM Slots

Hard Drive (2) 1TB 7,200RPM Serial ATA Hard Drives (Raid 0)

Solid State Drive 64GB SSD

Multimedia Drive 22x DVD±RW Drive

Display Type Display Not Included

Video Card (2) ATI Radeon HD 5750 in ATI CrossFire Mode

Video Card Memory (2) 1GB GDDR5 Video Memory

TV Tuner/Personal Video Recorder (PVR) None

Sound Card Realtek ALC892

Sound Output Mode 7.1 Channel Audio Output

Network Features 10/100/1000 Gigabit Network

Wireless Network Features 802.11b/g/n Wireless Network

Ports and Connectors (2) DisplayPorts; (2) USB 3.0; (4) Front USB 2.0; (8) Rear USB 2.0; (2) DVI; (2) HDMI; (2) eSATA 3Gb/s; (1) FireWire 400; (1) RJ-45 Network; (5) Audio; (1) Digital Audio

Memory Card Reader 8-in-1 Digital Media Reader

Supported Flash Media Secure Digital, MultiMediaCard, Memory Stick, Compact Flash

Expansion Bays 3 (2 free) External 5.25" bays; 2 (1 free) External 3.5" bays; 5 (2 free) Internal 3.5" bays

Expansion Slots 1 (0 free) PCI-E x16 Graphics Interface Slot; 1 (0 free) PCI-E x8 Interface Slot; 3 (2 free) PCI-E x1 interface Slots; 2 (2 free) PCI Interface Slots

Power Supply 500 Watt Power Supply

Combined +12V Rating 432 Watts (36A)

Input Device USB Standard Keyboard, USB Optical 3-Button Mouse

What's in the Box Powerspec G210 Desktop Computer, Power Cord, Mouse, Keyboard, Quick Start Guide, Warranty Sheet, Recovery Media, Drivers Discs

Included Software Microsoft Office Starter 2010, Windows Live Essentials, NOD32 Trial, Abobe Reader 9

Dimensions (WxDxH) 7.2" x 17.5" x 16"

Weight 15 lbs.

Manufacturer Warranty 1 Year Limited Warranty

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That is a pretty beast system. I have not been keeping up with computer info for a while now so I cannot say for sure.

The only concern I have is I don't know much about the brand. The chip and motherboard and video seem good, but no details on the drives or memory. Hmmm..

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Those graphic cards are weak. They are last generation. The single card 6870 kills those things and is the same price. See if you can upgrade the gpu for the money that you are spending to at least a ATI 6870.

See this link:

http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-6850-6870-review/16

For reference, the crossfire 5750s are equal to one 5850.

Also the 5750 is 120 * 2 = $240. The 6870 is $260.

They are ripping you off on the GPUs which is without a doubt the most important thing for gaming.

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They are ripping you off on the GPUs which is without a doubt the most important thing for gaming.

Thanks for the advice, although gaming is not really a concern for me. Video editing is what I'm looking to mostly do with this machine.

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Wouldn't it depend on the system you are upgrading from? I've got an AMD 3500+ single processor w/2GB RAM. I do some audio processing work and its slow; but I'm fairly certain I could make a much more "value" upgrade.

I would spend some time reading the computer site forums and seeing what other people are buying for comparable budget.

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Bleh. I wouldn't buy that system for a few reasons:

1) RAID 0 produces very little actual gain in performance. If you don't know what RAID is, I can elaborate. If you do, I won't bother.

2) As someone already mentioned, the dual graphics cards are behind the times. Dual graphics cards are rarely a good solution in the first place, and definitely not something that a person who isn't play video games should even start to consider. You could downgrade this significantly. If you don't, your computer is likely to generate more heat and noise (and suck more power, though probably not so much that you'd notice it in a big way on an energy bill) than necessary.

3) As far as the quality of the RAM and drives, PowerSpec does not, as far as I know, manufacture any themselves. This means that the drives come from some other manufacturer, which could be a good thing or a bad thing. A lot of computer companies like Dell and HP use pretty good drives like Western Digital or Samsung, but I dunno about PowerSpec.

4) I don't see much point in SSDs for the moment. They aren't bad technology, but the value isn't there in terms of $/GB, especially when all your video work is going to be going back and forth from the 2TB drives.

5) Even more than the drives and memory, I would be considered with what sort of PSU is used by a company I've never heard of. It may be fine, but it may also be a low quality unit.

6) (Minor point) I think filling up all the RAM slots on the motherboard when you don't have to is a bad idea. If you ever decide you need more RAM you have to ditch what you already have. If they used 2 4GB sticks instead of 4 2GB sticks you wouldn't have that problem. Also, filling fewer slots on the motherboard generally puts less stress on the memory controller and can be more stable.

Edit: Are you willing to build it yourself Bob? You may be able to put together a much more cost-effective system that way. If not, I would probably just go with a Dell or HP where you have a little bit more idea what you're getting into. Whatever you want to say about Dell, they generally don't cheap out on drives/RAM, and their power supplies are up to the task.

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Edit: Are you willing to build it yourself Bob? You may be able to put together a much more cost-effective system that way. If not, I would probably just go with a Dell or HP where you have a little bit more idea what you're getting into. Whatever you want to say about Dell, they generally don't cheap out on drives/RAM, and their power supplies are up to the task.

Many moons ago I did build them myself, but am very aware that things can become a pain fast. Would rather just order one. The other option I was looking at was this Dell for 1099.00.

What's Included

* Dell Studio XPS Desktop / Intel® Core™ i7 Processor / 8GB Memory / 1.5TB Hard Drive

* Power cable

* Multimedia keyboard, optical mouse

* Owner's manual

Product Features

* Intel® Core™ i7-2600 processor

Features an 8MB cache and 3.4GHz processor speed.

* Intel® Core™ i7 processor

Features 8-way processing for ultimate smart performance. Intel® Turbo Boost Technology automatically speeds up your processor when your PC needs extra performance.

* 8GB DDR3 SDRAM

For multitasking power, expandable to 16GB.

* Multiformat DVD±RW/CD-RW drive

Create custom DVDs and CDs.

* 1.5TB Serial ATA hard drive (7200 rpm)

For fast read/write times.

* ATI Radeon HD 5770 graphics

Feature 1GB GDDR5 dedicated video memory for lush images with stunning detail.

* 19-in-1 media card reader

Supports Secure Digital, miniSD, microSD, Secure Digital High Capacity, MultiMediaCard, Reduced-Size MultiMediaCard, MultiMediaCard Plus, Reduced-Size MultiMediaCard Plus and MultiMediaCard micro formats.

* Also supports Memory Stick, Memory Stick Duo, Memory Stick PRO, Memory Stick PRO Duo, Memory Stick micro, CompactFlash I/II, SmartMedia, Microdrive and xD-Picture Card formats.

* IEEE 1394 interface and 8 high-speed USB 2.0 ports

For fast digital data transfer and easy peripheral connectivity.

* Built-in Dell 1501 wireless networking PCI Express card

Connect to the Internet without wires.

* Integrated Ethernet LAN

For flexible wired Web connectivity options.

* Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64-bit operating system preinstalled

Provides a stable computing platform.

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PowerSpec's are good and reliable. It is Microcenter's homegrown PC's. My dad has used them for 20 years, granted he just gets a bit over basic needs.

I just built a Phenom II x4 970, 8GB, 1TB HDD, and a Nvidia GTS 450 for about $700. Takes all I can throw at it.

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this is a good machine, but I don't like that price.. If you're comfortable building one yourself you could save yourself hundreds of dollars.. Give me a few and I'll price you out a box if equal or greater spec.

---------- Post added January-10th-2011 at 12:45 PM ----------

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Qty. Image Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price

1 GIGABYTE GA-H55M-S2V LGA 1156 Intel H55 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard

Model #:GA-H55M-S2V

Item #:N82E16813128457

Return Policy:Standard Return Policy

In Stock

$79.99 $79.99

1 Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor BX80601950

Model #:BX80601950

Item #:N82E16819115211

Return Policy:CPU Replacement Only Return Policy

In Stock

$299.99 -$5.00 Instant $294.99

1 G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-8GBRL

Model #:F3-10666CL9D-8GBRL

Item #:N82E16820231311

Return Policy:Memory Standard Return Policy

In Stock

$89.99 $89.99

1 EVGA 012-P3-1470-AR GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

Model #:012-P3-1470-AR

Item #:N82E16814130550

Return Policy:VGA Replacement Only Return Policy

In Stock

Mail in Rebate Card14-130-550

$269.99 -$10.00 Instant $259.99

1 Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

Model #:WD1002FAEX

Item #:N82E16822136533

Return Policy:Standard Return Policy

In Stock

$89.99 $89.99

1 ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM

Model #:DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS

Item #:N82E16827135204

Return Policy:Standard Return Policy

In Stock

$19.99 $19.99

1 Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case, comes with Three Fans-1x Front Blue LED 120mm Fan, 1x Top 140mm ...

Model #:CHALLENGER

Item #:N82E16811147153

Return Policy:Standard Return Policy

In Stock

$59.99 -$5.00 Instant $54.99

1 Rosewill Xtreme Series RX850-S-B 850W Continuous @40°C ,80 PLUS Certified, ATX12V v2.2 & EPS12V v2.91, SLI Ready CrossFire ...

Model #:RX850-S-B

Item #:N82E16817182072

Return Policy:Standard Return Policy

In Stock

$149.99 -$50.00 Instant $99.99

1 Rosewill RCR-IC001 40-in-1 USB 2.0 3.5" Internal Card Reader w/ USB Port / Extra Silver Face Plate

Model #:RCR-IC001

Item #:N82E16820223103

Return Policy:Standard Return Policy

In Stock

$14.99 $14.99

Subtotal: $1,004.91

There's your total.. Now that machine I priced out doesn't have the SSD or SLI/Crossfire but will kick the dog **** out of the machine you specced.. If you want to SLI/Crossfire it up and add the SSD Boot drive then add 400 bucks which still puts me under your cost..

What I don't like about your build out is the ATI card is a 100 dollar card.. 2 mediocre cards don't make a good one. The RAID 0, the performance gain vs cost doesn't make sense and never has to me. The SSD Boot drive, is a friggen scam.. Will it increase performance? marginally not enough for the cost involved and most of the time only a pro could tell the performance difference anyway.. Hope this helps

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What I don't like about your build out is the ATI card is a 100 dollar card.. 2 mediocre cards don't make a good one.

It's not really my build, the machine comes boxed that way. Not customizable like some sites have available. After reading what you guys have to say I'm leaning more away from the raid ssd solution. I would however like to get a Sandy Bridge processor. As I understand things the processor is more important in video editing than the video card. Not really positive how the two interact during that process. Hmmm back to the search again.

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There's your total.. Now that machine I priced out doesn't have the SSD or SLI/Crossfire but will kick the dog **** out of the machine you specced.. If you want to SLI/Crossfire it up and add the SSD Boot drive then add 400 bucks which still puts me under your cost..

Doesn't look like you added in the cost of a Windows 7 license.

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Here is the build with the SSD, SLI with two (MONSTER!) Vid cards. and Raid 0

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Qty. Image Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price

1 Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor BX80601950

Model #:BX80601950

Item #:N82E16819115211

Return Policy:CPU Replacement Only Return Policy

In Stock

$299.99 -$5.00 Instant $294.99

1 G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-8GBRL

Model #:F3-10666CL9D-8GBRL

Item #:N82E16820231311

Return Policy:Memory Standard Return Policy

In Stock

$89.99 $89.99

2 EVGA 012-P3-1470-AR GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

Model #:012-P3-1470-AR

Item #:N82E16814130550

Return Policy:VGA Replacement Only Return Policy

In Stock

Mail in Rebate Card14-130-550

$269.99 -$10.00 Instant $519.98

2 Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

Model #:WD1002FAEX

Item #:N82E16822136533

Return Policy:Standard Return Policy

In Stock

$89.99 $179.98

1 ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM

Model #:DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS

Item #:N82E16827135204

Return Policy:Standard Return Policy

In Stock

$19.99 $19.99

1 Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case, comes with Three Fans-1x Front Blue LED 120mm Fan, 1x Top 140mm ...

Model #:CHALLENGER

Item #:N82E16811147153

Return Policy:Standard Return Policy

In Stock

$59.99 -$5.00 Instant $54.99

1 Rosewill Xtreme Series RX850-S-B 850W Continuous @40°C ,80 PLUS Certified, ATX12V v2.2 & EPS12V v2.91, SLI Ready CrossFire ...

Model #:RX850-S-B

Item #:N82E16817182072

Return Policy:Standard Return Policy

In Stock

$149.99 -$50.00 Instant $99.99

1 Crucial RealSSD C300 CTFDDAC064MAG-1G1 2.5" 64GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

Model #:CTFDDAC064MAG-1G1

Item #:N82E16820148357

Return Policy:Limited Replacement Only Return Policy

In Stock

$141.99 -$20.00 Instant $121.99

1 Rosewill RCR-IC001 40-in-1 USB 2.0 3.5" Internal Card Reader w/ USB Port / Extra Silver Face Plate

Model #:RCR-IC001

Item #:N82E16820223103

Return Policy:Standard Return Policy

In Stock

$14.99 $14.99

1 BIOSTAR T5 XE CFX-SLI LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard

Model #:T5 XE CFX-SLI

Item #:N82E16813138162

Return Policy:Standard Return Policy

In Stock

Mail in Rebate13-138-162

$134.99 -$25.00 Instant $109.99

Subtotal: $1,506.88

---------- Post added January-10th-2011 at 01:02 PM ----------

Doesn't look like you added in the cost of a Windows 7 license.

You mean people pay for Windows?

Oh and it's 172 for an Ultimate 64 License which in my original build in still way under.

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It's not really my build, the machine comes boxed that way. Not customizable like some sites have available. After reading what you guys have to say I'm leaning more away from the raid ssd solution. I would however like to get a Sandy Bridge processor. As I understand things the processor is more important in video editing than the video card. Not really positive how the two interact during that process. Hmmm back to the search again.

Oh I know, I was speaking generally.. wasn't trying to insult you or anything. and the SB proc will make no different in your video editing compared to the bloom. Even if it does it will be so minute you won't be able to see the difference.

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You mean people pay for Windows?

:whoknows:

I've never been one to assume that people are okay with pirated software, so I've always tossed that cost into the mix when I've been hired to do a build. Usually the people that are inclined towards piracy will take care of the OS installation themselves and leave out a licensed copy.

Oh and it's 172 for an Ultimate 64 License which in my original build in still way under.

Professional is $30 cheaper and you don't miss out on any features you will actually use.

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I've never been one to assume that people are okay with pirated software, so I've always tossed that cost into the mix when I've been hired to do a build. Usually the people that are inclined towards piracy will take care of the OS installation themselves and leave out a licensed copy.

Was a joke.. I invest in many smaller IT companies in the tri-state area so MS throws everything at me for free.. i haven't had to pay for a legit copy of Windows since 98 so I didn't even think about it =)

---------- Post added January-10th-2011 at 01:12 PM ----------

Anyway HOF if this is something you'd be interested but are uncomfortable putting the pieces together.. Let me know, if you live close enough I'll come over and give you a hand.. I love this stuff so I'd do it for free =)

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Here is the build with the SSD, SLI with two (MONSTER!) Vid cards. and Raid 0

The SLI is a (MONSTER) waste for what you're doing Bob. Cutting back to a reasonable single-card solution also lets you bring the power supply back down to earth. That money could go towards a nice display, sound system, or some good whiskey. :)

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That money could go towards a nice display(58" HDTV), sound system(Denon with Boston Acoustic Speakers), or some good whiskey (Now there you go, can never have enough good Whiskey!). :)

Seems to me the most important thing for me are the i7 2600 processor, a motherboard with no bottleknecks,a decent amount of good RAM, a fast large hard drive, and a middle of the line single video card.

So how does this look for a build? Cost of 1511.91. Still not sure about the video card. This is all available for pick-up tonight at Microcenter. ;)

Intel Core i7 2600 LGA 1155 Boxed Processor

Corsair Graphite Series 600T Mid-Tower Gaming Case

Asus P8H67-M LE LGA 1155 mATX Intel Motherboard

Corsair GS600 Gaming Series High Performance 600 Watt ATX Power Supply

Corsair XMS 8GB DDR3-1333 (PC3-10666) CL9 Dual channel Desktop memory Kit (Two 4GB Memory Modules)

Barracuda XT 2TB 7,200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive ST320005N1A1AS-RK

ENGTX460DC2D1G5 NVIDIA Ge Force GTX 460 1024MB GDDR5 PCIe 2.0 x16 Video Card

LG 10x Internal Blu-ray Disc Rewriter- OEM

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (PC)

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The SLI is a (MONSTER) waste for what you're doing Bob. Cutting back to a reasonable single-card solution also lets you bring the power supply back down to earth. That money could go towards a nice display, sound system, or some good whiskey. :)

100% agree.. Why the first build didn't include it. One of those cards would do a very good job 2, would be overkill imo.

---------- Post added January-10th-2011 at 03:06 PM ----------

Seems to me the most important thing for me are the i7 2600 processor, a motherboard with no bottleknecks,a decent amount of good RAM, a fast large hard drive, and a middle of the line single video card.

So how does this look for a build? Cost of 1511.91. Still not sure about the video card. This is all available for pick-up tonight at Microcenter. ;)

Intel Core i7 2600 LGA 1155 Boxed Processor

Corsair Graphite Series 600T Mid-Tower Gaming Case

Asus P8H67-M LE LGA 1155 mATX Intel Motherboard

Corsair GS600 Gaming Series High Performance 600 Watt ATX Power Supply

Corsair XMS 8GB DDR3-1333 (PC3-10666) CL9 Dual channel Desktop memory Kit (Two 4GB Memory Modules)

Barracuda XT 2TB 7,200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive ST320005N1A1AS-RK

ENGTX460DC2D1G5 NVIDIA Ge Force GTX 460 1024MB GDDR5 PCIe 2.0 x16 Video Card

LG 10x Internal Blu-ray Disc Rewriter- OEM

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (PC)

Digging this build much better than the first one. Still price is bothering me. But hey it's your money ;p

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Here are the retail prices of the components:

i7 2600: $300

Corsair Case: $150

600W PSU: $70

P8H67-M LE: $105

8GB Corsair XMS DDR3: $90

Barracuda XT 2TB: $170

GTX 460: $165

LG 10X Blu-Ray burner: $100

Total without windows: 1150

Tack on $150 for Windows and shipping costs, and you're paying about $200 for them to pick the parts and put everything together for you.

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Total without windows: 1150

Tack on $150 for Windows and shipping costs, and you're paying about $200 for them to pick the parts and put everything together for you.

That's actually with me putting it together. I just wanted someplace local cause I'm getting antsy.

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