HapHaszard Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 I normally don't post article down herein the stadium, but think this might require some discussion. http://www.csnwashington.com/12/07/10/Suspension-Could-Cost-Haynesworth-21-mil/landing.html?blockID=368347&feedID=272 The Redskins could be going after some big money from Albert Haynesworth. The four-game suspension without pay will definitely cost Haynesworth some $847,000, the pro-rated portion (4/17th) of his $3.6 million 2010 salary, if the suspension stands. At this time, Haynesworth, his agent, and the NFLPA are deciding how they are going to react to the Redskins' action. However, according to J. I. Halsell of SalaryCap101.com, a former Redskins cap manager, says that the team could go after much more money than that. Halsell said that what could be at stake here is the $21 million check that Haynesworth cashed in April. The Redskins wanted to structure that bonus so that the entire amount would be charged to 2010, which is an uncapped year. According to Halsell, the structure of the deal may put either the entire amount of the bonus, $21 million, or 5/6 of it (Haynesworth's contract had six years remaining on it going into 2010), $17.5 million, subject to forfeiture by Haynesworth. But just because the money is subject to forfeiture doesn't mean that Haynesworth will be writing out a check to the Redskins any time soon, or ever. It is very difficult to do. Halsell cited the example of Michael Vick's contract with the Atlanta Falcons. Even though Vick was convicted of involvement in a dog fighting ring, including the killing of dogs, he did not have to pay any bonus money that he already had been paid. click on the link to continue reading ---------- Post added December-7th-2010 at 03:21 PM ---------- Heres hoping that the Redskins are able to get some of the money back, the way to get this selfish ****'s attention is thru his wallet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addicted Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Serious question for everyone. Why should we care about Snyder getting his money back from Hanyesworth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HapHaszard Posted December 7, 2010 Author Share Posted December 7, 2010 Serious question for everyone. Why should we care about Snyder getting his money back from Hanyesworth? I could care if SNYDER gets his money back but there is just so much money available for payroll, even Snyder doesn't have unlimited funds, so it will go towards getting better quality free agents in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Serious question for everyone. Why should we care about Snyder getting his money back from Hanyesworth? We probably shouldn't care all that much...but for those of us who are disgusted by AH's behavior, it would be nice to see that justice is served if he has to pay back some money. Just the same way we shouldn't care if someone goes to jail for fraud on a personal level...but it's nice to see a system work and punish bad behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Serious question for everyone. Why should we care about Snyder getting his money back from Hanyesworth? For me, its the principle of the thing. This ass made us suffer through a couple of years of BS and its pretty obvious he only came here for the money. In fact, its pretty obvious that he's only ever played close to his potential when there was money in it for him. So, for me, its to take that away. He doesn't deserve the money, except maybe as a pat on the back for being the latest player to take advantage of Vinny Cerrato. Haynesworth has continually made being a Redskin even more of a joke than its been for the past decade or two...and for that, I'd like to see him lose his precious money. I hate this age of athletes playing for their money, rather than for their love of the game. And Haynesworth is the biggest representation of that. So **** him, and **** his money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 We probably shouldn't care all that much...but for those of us who are disgusted by AH's behavior, it would be nice to see that justice is served if he has to pay back some money. Just the same way we shouldn't care if someone goes to jail for fraud on a personal level...but it's nice to see a system work and punish bad behavior. yup. its just nice to see this team taking hard stances on diva clowns. some of you dont seem to realize that if this had happened last year, snyder would be siding with haynesworth, he'd get to do whatever he wanted, not practice, not show up, etc, and our coach would look like a bumbling fool. the only thing shanny looks like is a pissed off coach whos tired of BS from a diva player, and the diva just lost BIG TIME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Serious question for everyone. Why should we care about Snyder getting his money back from Hanyesworth? It's not about the money per se. It's about sending a message that we are no longer a place you come to collect a cheque with no accountability. it's part of a culture change which is long overdue - if you want paying perform and work within the team structure. The lunatics are no longer running the asylum. Edit. by the way I think it's long odds we get any of the money already paid back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champskins Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Damn, we could have had that check! damn you McDonalds! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 I seriously doubt the NFLPA is going to let him lose the entire 21 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortlandSkins Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 If I was presented with a suitcase containing 21 million dollars that I had to either give to Haynesworth or Snyder, I would set fire to it. Seriously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.T.real,lights,out Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 I doubt that will happen but i would love it if it did!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark The Homer Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Serious question for everyone. Why should we care about Snyder getting his money back from Hanyesworth? For me, its the principle of the thing. ... Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasRoane Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Serious question for everyone. Why should we care about Snyder getting his money back from Hanyesworth? I don't think that Shannahan and Allen are that concerned about getting the money back to Dan. More importantly this means that AH will now NEED to make more money! Based on the banks and other creditors suing him (and all the babie's mamas he has to support) he will have to get that next big contract. Which means he will be back in the gym working out to show he can bring value to a team. Which in turn would make it easier for the Redskins to secure a draft pick in a trade. At this point something is better than nothing. Our team needs as many picks as we can get! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 If I was presented with a suitcase containing 21 million dollars that I had to either give to Haynesworth or Snyder, I would set fire to it. Seriously :applause: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasRoane Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 It's not about the money per se. It's about sending a message that we are no longer a place you come to collect a cheque with no accountability. it's part of a culture change which is long overdue - if you want paying perform and work within the team structure. The lunatics are no longer running the asylum.Edit. by the way I think it's long odds we get any of the money already paid back. Another great point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Levi Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 I don't think that Shannahan and Allen are that concerned about getting the money back to Dan. More importantly this means that AH will now NEED to make more money! Based on the banks and other creditors suing him (and all the babie's mamas he has to support) he will have to get that next big contract. Which means he will be back in the gym working out to show he can bring value to a team. Which in turn would make it easier for the Redskins to secure a draft pick in a trade. At this point something is better than nothing. Our team needs as many picks as we can get! Dude, give it up. That ship has sailed. Albert's last trip to the Redskins locker room will be to clear his stuff out. He's never working out as a redskin again. he's never playing as a Redskin again. And he's certainly not going to be traded for anything as Redskin. It's over. It's time to cut this joker loose and get on with our lives. As far as the whole "principle" of the thing...come on, grow up people. This isn't a 2nd grade class where any lessons are to be learned. I'm all for suing Al for the bonus money, but only if it can be restricted to the courts and far away from Redskins park. The second it becomes a distraction, it's just cutting off our noses to spite our face. It's time for everyone to move on. Albert was a huge fiasco the second Snyderatto signed him. Before the ink was dry we all knew it was a disaster. The time has come to close the book on yet another Snyderatto masterpiece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HapHaszard Posted December 7, 2010 Author Share Posted December 7, 2010 If I was presented with a suitcase containing 21 million dollars that I had to either give to Haynesworth or Snyder, I would set fire to it. Seriously Personally I'd swear I lost it on the metro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hp703 Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Screw Fat Albert While it may not necessarily hurt Mr. Snyder's pocket, we should still try and go after some of that undeserved bonus/contract money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasRoane Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Dude, give it up. That ship has sailed.Albert's last trip to the Redskins locker room will be to clear his stuff out. He's never working out as a redskin again. he's never playing as a Redskin again. And he's certainly not going to be traded for anything as Redskin. It's over. It's time to cut this joker loose and get on with our lives. As far as the whole "principle" of the thing...come on, grow up people. This isn't a 2nd grade class where any lessons are to be learned. I'm all for suing Al for the bonus money, but only if it can be restricted to the courts and far away from Redskins park. The second it becomes a distraction, it's just cutting off our noses to spite our face. It's time for everyone to move on. Albert was a huge fiasco the second Snyderatto signed him. Before the ink was dry we all knew it was a disaster. The time has come to close the book on yet another Snyderatto masterpiece. He doesn't have to be in the locker room for us to trade him. My understanding was that we have him under contract next year. I think it's only for $4mil or something. Reasonable for another team to take a chance. If we got a 4th rounder that would be acceptable I'd think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandman69 Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Dude, give it up. That ship has sailed. I don't think he was meaning that the Fat **** would be here next year to prove his worth. I think he meant maybe a team would give us something, hell the last pick in the draft, a ham sammich, a bottle of Jack. Anything. The skins could, though not bloody likely, convince the team since AL will be needing the money, I am sure he will be a good school boy for your team... lol... Besides, wouldn't a team, if they wanted him, rather trade us and take over his contract, which isn't that bad now that we paid him a big chunk of it, than to get into a bidding war with another team that may be stupid enough to want him? Wishful thinking. I am just glad the drama will be dialed down a bit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zkinzfan Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Cant wait to get rid of this cancer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blue Joe Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 He doesn't have to be in the locker room for us to trade him. My understanding was that we have him under contract next year. I think it's only for $4mil or something. Reasonable for another team to take a chance. If we got a 4th rounder that would be acceptable I'd think.If he's under contract in 2011 the Redskins can't stop him from showing up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Levi Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 Besides, wouldn't a team, if they wanted him, rather trade us and take over his contract, which isn't that bad now that we paid him a big chunk of it, than to get into a bidding war with another team that may be stupid enough to want him?... Well, that was the reasoning THIS season before the trading deadline, and nothing happened. Word has it the Titans offered a 4th, right? What are they gonna offer this time around, a 6th? If they can trade him in the offseason, fine, but you know it isn't gonna work out that way. We'll be fighting over Danny's scraps with the union and the courts, and this horror show will just continue into next season. Cut this joker loose, regardless of the bonus situation, by the time training camp starts next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 If he's under contract in 2011 the Redskins can't stop him from showing up. If they trade him away they can't. I don't think anyone thinks they can just keep him on the shelf for all of next year. But, we own one last chip in this game...and that's the fact that we get a say in where he ends up if we want it. We could trade him to Oakland for an autographed Jason Campbell jersey just so he's out of the NFC for a couple years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Levi Posted December 7, 2010 Share Posted December 7, 2010 If they trade him away they can't. I don't think anyone thinks they can just keep him on the shelf for all of next year. But, we own one last chip in this game...and that's the fact that we get a say in where he ends up if we want it. We could trade him to Oakland for an autographed Jason Campbell jersey just so he's out of the NFC for a couple years... Don't take this as an indictment of the awesome negotiating prowess of Dan Snyder and Vinny Cerato....but don't you think it's at least possible that Hayensworth has some kind of no-trade or say-in-trade clause in his fabulous $100 million contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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