McNabb is on pace to throw for 4,200 yards this year.

[terryb101]

Yards don't matter, only td's/turnovers/wins. It really isn't that difficult to understand. He has failed in all three departments, and the team hasn't helped him. That is factual.

exactly.yall know that old saying..statistics are for losers

[KDawg]

Yards don't matter, only td's/turnovers/wins. It really isn't that difficult to understand. He has failed in all three departments, and the team hasn't helped him. That is factual.

Ehhhh... yards do matter.

But, let's notice how he gets them. He gets a huge chunk on one play, then three more plays and we punt, or kick a field goal (or miss a field goal). Then, he collects some yards in garbage time. These are things that the Campbell hate crew said on a near daily basis, and you know what, they were right. McNabb looks so similar to Campbell that it's scary.

Take a look at his TD to INT ratio. It's disturbing. Any time the ratio is tilted in favor of picks, you have a problem.

[Gibbs Hog Heaven]

exactly.yall know that old saying..statistics are for losers

Or backers of the previous QB, which is pretty much the same thi ..... I'll leave it and be good.

Hail.

[terryb101]

Yeah, I KNOW we re-signed him. But the Skins have the option to cut him. But I assume the Skins could still try to get some picks back by taking the option, and then trading him (by setting up a deal where that would happen). To do it you'd have to find someone willing to take on his contract, or have the Skins pay off some of it. Typical.

what team would be dumb enuff to give up picks for mcnabb? other that the redskins?

[greenspandan]

McNabb looks so similar to Campbell that it's scary.

nah, they are very different. Campbell rarely threw interceptions, for example.

[Gibbs Hog Heaven]

what team would be dumb enuff to give up picks for mcnabb? other that the redskins?

Hindsights great. But at the time, and some of us think it still holds now given the multitude of other holes to fill and one less to worry about, given up a second and what will be a fourth for everything a proven vet. like McNabb brings, both on and off the field; even more so when your looking to implement a complete change of most everything through your organization; was a very prudent move indeed. Even more so when you take into the extension they gave him.

Hail.

[Mr. Sinister]

Ehhhh... yards do matter.

But, let's notice how he gets them. He gets a huge chunk on one play, then three more plays and we punt, or kick a field goal (or miss a field goal). Then, he collects some yards in garbage time. These are things that the Campbell hate crew said on a near daily basis, and you know what, they were right. McNabb looks so similar to Campbell that it's scary.

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That's the point I'm trying to make KDawg, it doesn't matter how many " 50 yard bombs" you throw for, if you can't get the ball in the endzone.

Take a look at his TD to INT ratio. It's disturbing. Any time the ratio is tilted in favor of picks, you have a problem

And thats why the fact that he's on pace to throw for over 4,000 means nothing to me. He has been unimpressive in all other areas on the stat sheet.

[Gibbs Hog Heaven]

nah, they are very different. Campbell rarely threw interceptions, for example.

Weird how that **** happen's when you actually pass down field and attempt to win games isn't it?

Hail.

[GreenRiggins]

MCNABB is NOT the problem on this so-called "Team"

He should be awarded a Purple Heart and a Silver Star for playing behind this line, especially in this division.

and he damn sure isn't the solution

[KDawg]

nah, they are very different. Campbell rarely threw interceptions, for example.

In the pocket, they look similar.

I guess you're right though. Campbell would have thrown the ball to the guys in the flats that were wide open yesterday... McNabb doesn't.

McNabb takes shots down field, Campbell doesn't.

Neither one seems to have any accuracy mid range.

There are similarities and there are differences. But the major similarity is in the win/loss column.

[Annonymous Source]

and he damn sure isn't the solution

When the problem is a terrible offensive line, no QB is the solution

[washedup2]

I like McNabb, i think he could be more accurate and I know that bugs the Shanahans but why didnt he just run out of bounds on that play.

That "scramble" turned fumble yesterday spoke louder than anything.

[Sussudio]

He's also on pace to lose 11 games this year. Obviously it isn't all his fault but he has looked horrible a lot of the time.

[andyburd]

I believe Jay Shraeder (spelling ) did in 1986, if not it was very close

[TSO]

It's impressive on one level. Behind this line and without a lot of help at receiver that's a lot of yards. It's also frustrating. He's accumulating this many yards because the game's never in hand.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. That's a massive exaggeration, Burgold. Yeesh. We've been in every game except two this year, maybe you can say three if you count the Rams game. His best game was against the Texans, and we were in control of that game up until the 4th quarter pretty much.

I know we're all disappointed, but let's not take every positive and turn it into a negative. This is a positive, period.

[Thirtyfive2seven]

Maybe the skins can gain interest from the Cards/Vikes if McNabb keeps up playing so well

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Whoa, whoa, whoa. That's a massive exaggeration, Burgold. Yeesh. We've been in every game except two this year, maybe you can say three if you count the Rams game. His best game was against the Texans, and we were in control of that game up until the 4th quarter pretty much.

I know we're all disappointed, but let's not take every positive and turn it into a negative. This is a positive, period.

I agree, don't the skins have the most 40+ yard pass plays this year? If not, 2nd. He's been throwing some pretty downfield passes (some underthrown that should have been TD's but better the JC).

[texasthunder]

Maybe the skins can gain interest from the Cards/Vikes if McNabb keeps up playing so well

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Thats my hope also.

Problem is what do we do for a QB next year ??

And as for the yardage- it really doesnt have that much of an impact.

One would only have to look at the top two qb;s in the league right now, and what their team records are-

1) Peyton Manning..... 3709 yds

2) Phillip Rivers......3642 yds

[VetMinimum+Incentives]

Hip hip hooray the Redskins get yet another pyrrhic victory!

[88Comrade2000]

He is on pace to set the single-season Redskins record, and his own personal best. I believe Jay Schroeder has the record right now at like 4,207.

***Edit, Schroeder had 4,109 yards, I believe that is still the Redskins single season record.

Well, it would be good for him to hold the single season record for the single season he will probably be here.

If Shanny sees a better option, we are trading him. IF not, we will pay that roster bonus and he's back for 2011.

[Frostx08]

Ehhhh... yards do matter.

But, let's notice how he gets them. He gets a huge chunk on one play, then three more plays and we punt, or kick a field goal (or miss a field goal). Then, he collects some yards in garbage time. These are things that the Campbell hate crew said on a near daily basis, and you know what, they were right. McNabb looks so similar to Campbell that it's scary.

Take a look at his TD to INT ratio. It's disturbing. Any time the ratio is tilted in favor of picks, you have a problem.

Some of you are getting carried away here.

McNabb has had this much yards because he's pretty much been the offense. For the most part we've had NO running game, so if I'm not mistaken McNabb accounts for the majority of our offensive yards. The Titans game, Packers, and Texans are 3 games for which he threw for over 375 yards, and those weren't exactly garbage time efforts. So that's the reason...late in the Giants game was the only memorable garbage time yards and it wasn't that much to speak of anyway

As for his Td to Int ratio...or should we say his Int to Td ratio, well that's among one of the many things that McNabb is having 1sts with as a Redskin

He's never thrown more than 14 interceptions in a season, he now has 15. He came in with the best all time TD to Int ratio behind Tom Brady and Steve Young..he now has more interceptions than touchdowns. He was 5-0 against the Vikings...now he's 5-1. He's been a New York Giants killer even as recently as last year, and he has his worst game against them as a Redskin. He did well against the Bears last year...does horribly against them this year

So it depends on how all this plays out. If we release McNabb but then he finishes his career strong elsewhere, It won't matter. What must be decided is if McNabb is a fit with us. I don't believe in hanging onto a player for the sake of it, so if it's in our best interest(and Donovan's) to both move on...so be it. If the best move for us is to build around him and hand a good team off to a rookie, do that too

nah, they are very different. Campbell rarely threw interceptions, for example.

I wish Jason Campbell well but let's be real here...he hardly threw the ball more than 20 yards downfield...let alone 40

[terryb101]

Hindsights great. But at the time, and some of us think it still holds now given the multitude of other holes to fill and one less to worry about, given up a second and what will be a fourth for everything a proven vet. like McNabb brings, both on and off the field; even more so when your looking to implement a complete change of most everything through your organization; was a very prudent move indeed. Even more so when you take into the extension they gave him.

Hail.

Hindsight ? lets see. 35 yrs old, gets hurt every year. maybe if we had a good quality 2nd yr or rookie qb whom he could teach

then it mite not have been a bad deal. but to be the only qb.(we all saw his back up). not really worth it, probably could have spent a little more and got a better qb. and your gonna say who was available. ive been following football for 41 yrs, believe me if you offer the right price you can get anybody you want(i dont mean 100 million for brady or anything like that,, but they could have gotten a younger one for a lil more

[Conn]

I was at the game - even the Giants fans took pity on me. Nobody messed with me and some Giants fans even gave me beer on the train.

Interesting. I was there as well (section 328), and I had the exact opposite experience, and did nothing to provoke it other than wearing my Portis jersey.

Came away with the impression that once you give them a few beers and a couple-touchdown lead, Giants fans can be some of the biggest asses I've ever met.

I'm not talking about good-natured ribbing that I couldn't handle, or something. I'm talking about straight-up rude, incredibly childish things.

Of course there were some really nice people too, but mostly asses.

In the end, we'll probably pull a "sign and trade." We'll end up re-signing McNabb, and trading him to the Vikings or Cardinals for a 4th rounder in 2012. Another Skins humiliation.

First off, that very rarely happens in the NFL, sign-and-trades. It just doesn't happen. Teams trade a player with the agreement that that player will sign a new deal with his new team, usually.

Also, McNabb's already been re-signed....

[KDawg]

Some of you are getting carried away here.

Perhaps. But I haven't seen a single thing from McNabb that warrants a 2nd rounder + another pick. Nothing. I haven't seen him ignite this team with leadership, I haven't seen him make a huge play to help us turn a game around. I've seen several mistakes that cost us drives, though.

We could have stunk just as bad with Rex Grossman.

So no, I don't feel like I'm getting carried away at all. McNabb may still be talented enough to quarterback a good team to big places. He's not good enough to quarterback a bad team anywhere.

[Burgold]

Whoa, whoa, whoa. That's a massive exaggeration, Burgold. Yeesh. We've been in every game except two this year, maybe you can say three if you count the Rams game. His best game was against the Texans, and we were in control of that game up until the 4th quarter pretty much.

I know we're all disappointed, but let's not take every positive and turn it into a negative. This is a positive, period.

I agree with your major point, but the Texan game couldn't have been in hand. We lost. It did feel that way though through three quarters. I didn't actually mean it in a negative way though. Just observing that there hasn't been a game really where we could shelve the qb and go into Riggo Drill mode. That means more pass attempts and more yards completed.

Still, breaking that 4,000 mark is an achievement esp. given all the obstacles.

[jabronijames]

I like McNabb...but he really looked terrible yesterday. Just awful. I was at the game - even the Giants fans took pity on me. Nobody messed with me and some Giants fans even gave me beer on the train.

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I was at the game too. It appeared to me that McNabb just doesn't trust his receivers to be open when they're supposed to be. He always held the ball just a little too long, giving the DB time to cover back up on the receiver. I don't blame the guy. The receivers we have are frankly not all that good. Moss is fast, but is a sloppy route runner, Armstrong is a small target who seems to catch everything thrown his way, but he's sloppy in his routes too. I was honestly surprised when we didn't make a move to acquire Randy Moss. We need receivers.

Now to part two of the problem. We need to stop kidding ourselves: Portis will never be a Redskin again...or he shouldn't. It's time to let him go. When K. Williams can get 120 yards behind the cruddy line that we have, Portis has no excuse.

Line: we need a couple of guys with good footwork.

DEFENSE!!! We have none. Teams can run and pass on us at will. It's embarassing. What was the basis for Haslett deciding he wanted to go to the 3-4? We didn't have the personnel, we didn't trade for the personnel, and he had never coached the 3-4! Are we some kind of experiment? A good coach assesses his talent and employs its strengths to its advantage.