Would a lockout year benefit the Redskins? Yes, it would

[Burgold]

Sure, on one level it would really suck. No football for a whole year, but would it be good for the Redskins?

I think it might be. Afterall, what are the biggest problems on the Redskins?

Lack of talent and lack of depth.

A lockout would give the Redskins two full drafts to address their depth and begin to assemble the team that Shanny truly envisions. Given that, and a strong free agency class and the Redskins might actually be able to get much younger, stronger, and faster. The aging vets we'd have to keep despite their fragility and declining skills could be let go and all our injuries that usually take a year to fully get over would get that year.

On the downside, whatever momentum, comradery, or discipline this team was finally learning would probably have to be retaught from ground zero, but overall for the Redskins a year off may be just the thing that the doctor ordered.

And for the fans, it might even be better. There seems to be a growing impatience and a shortening of the fuse caused by too many years of consecutive frustration. Taking that year off might give our psyches a chance to heal as well.

What do you guys think?

[thechalkoutlines]

Sure, on one level it would really suck. No football for a whole year,

All valid points. This being the most valid.

[wrecker]

That year off for the fans could also backfire when we learn life is better without the yearly frustration.

Taking the year off may make some decide to not go back. No NFL season I feel is a lose - lose situation

for the franchises, the teams and the fans. I personnally feel if a bunch of greedy millionaires cannot come to a labor

agreement then screw them all. I will be opting out of the NFL.

[Weganator]

I think it would help the Redskins in a sense, but not as much as if we could guarantee the safety of our FO for 2 more drafts no matter what the results of next season.

The benefit of a lock out would be two seasons in order to build up talent prior to having to play another season, which would allow us to produce a more competitive product of football for the fans (hopefully). It would also guarantee that we have the same FO vision for two more consecutive drafts allowing us to actually draft players to fit a scheme, and then actually play them in it.

All of this could be done just as easily by ensuring the safety of the FO through at least two more drafts, while allowing our players to play games in order to see what we truly do have and not just what we have at practice.

[Boss_Hogg]

it would certainly benefit MY mental health

[Annonymous Source]

Great post. My thoughts on it are

1) As of now it looks like the union and the owners are going to come to an agreement

2) Having that extra year of inaction would serve to make the playing field much more level in terms of talent due to the really strong franchises declining in the off year

3) I doubt there would be much difference in the Redskins drafting and aquisitions regardless of an off year

4) Fans are happy in the offseason because it is when they can picture the team being good, so having an extra year would merely IMO cause for expectations to be raised even higher.

[WhoRUSupposed2Be]

Good post.

[The Tris]

August 26th, 2010:

This thread has me legitimately considering how beneficial the lockout next season could be to our rebuilding efforts. Instead of worrying about what we need to complete in 2011, we could truely focus on the BPA. We would basically be infusing our team with two years of young talent without worrying what the short term ramifications would be. It would be fantastic for our long term health.

It would also suck to not have football for 19 months.

I have long thought that from a personnel stand point it would be extremely beneficial.

I do however think there is something to be said for pressure reps and in-game continuity.

[Chicken Fried]

There might not be a 2012 drat.

[USS Redskins]

A draft with no season would be horrible for the rookies.... lock out = no mini camps, training camps, no games, no tuteledge from the coaches and vets... which all means: no learning and a wasted year of development. A disaster for a rookie player.

A year without the Skins personally? My wife would be thrilled.. but I would have very little to ***** about... maybe my blood pressure would return to earthly levels.... hmmm... No, its all part of the Redskins experience, cant give it up.

[GenMgr]

The Redskins are currently configured for a lockout. See McNabb's contract.

[Tulane Skins Fan]

it would certainly benefit MY mental health

+1. Sometimes, I feel like the Redskins are trying to push me onto Paxil.

[LaRonDontLikeUgly]

No, I don't think taking an extended period of time away from full-speed games/situations is good for anyone. Look at what happened to our friends Maurice Clarrett and Mike Williams a few years ago. You can even look at Vick's struggles last year-- he looked worse than when he was a rookie.

There is no preparation like the preparation for Sunday game. These young guys NEED to get reps (even if it's special teams), they NEED to watch game film, they NEED to get blasted by their coaches, and they even need to learn the importance of interacting with the fans and media. You take away the games, and you take away like 95% of those things.

You want to find out who deserves to be on your football team? You find that out on Sundays. The Redskins and every other team in this league need those games very badly.

[PeterMP]

There might not be a 2012 drat.

I think this. My understanding is that the CBA allows for a 2011 draft, but how will there be a 2012 draft? How will they rank the teams?

I could see there being no 2012 draft and like a "super" 12 round draft in 2013.

[Burgold]

the practice and experience thing is a good counter argument. I still think the benefits of the pruning and the talent infusion would be worth the effects of a year off esp. long term. As for the 2012 draft, I suspect it would go on using the previous team rankings. That's what I'd do anyway.

[Popeman38]

A lockout benefits NO ONE. Players lose. Owners lose. Fans lose. TV Networks lose. ESPN loses. That is why there will be no lock out. In this economy, neither the players nor the owners are willing to sacrifice the hundreds of millions of dollars generated by football. There will be huffing and puffing, and then they will at least agree to a 1 year deal. No one want to see the goose that lays the golden eggs killed. The NHL hasn't recovered from their strike. MLB is just now fully recovering from their lockout. The NFL will be playing in 2011, most likely an 18 game season. The NFL issued that refund statement yesterday for leverage, plain and simple.

[Burgold]

Actually, fans would save thousands of bucks, reaquaint themselves with family, devote time to charities, and rediscover active passions. So, the fans might not lose all that much.

Vegas and bookies on the other hand.

[Skins-Canes-Mounties]

No, it doesn't benefit the redskins. All of the benefits that you list (2 drafts, releasing vets) are present 2 years from now anyway, without a lockout.

[Hollywood1127]

That year off for the fans could also backfire when we learn life is better without the yearly frustration.

Taking the year off may make some decide to not go back. No NFL season I feel is a lose - lose situation

for the franchises, the teams and the fans. I personnally feel if a bunch of greedy millionaires cannot come to a labor

agreement then screw them all. I will be opting out of the NFL.

I have to agree. A lockout year may shut the doors to the NFL. Just think of all the money the owners will lose. That's money that they won't make on concessions, season tickets and advertisements. They may be rich right now, but you let a lockout year happen and see how hard it hits their pockets. After a lockout year, we may end up seeing less teams than what their were before. That would change things a lot.

So imagine all the Redskins fans that can't go to FedEx and see the team play for a whole year. Are you still going to waste money on keeping your season tickets. Most people would end up getting season tickets for the Washington Wizards, and basketball would became DC's new sports image. Ted Leonsis would love to have a bunch of fans at his games, given the fact that the Verizon Center has a lot of unoccupied seats during games. If he could get all those Redskins fans to buy season tickets, there would be a demand for a new basketball arena to be built.

[rydost]

We don't want a whole season without football - just a temporary work stoppage. The last 2 times that happened, we went on to win the Superbowl.

[terpskins10]

Great post. My thoughts on it are

1) As of now it looks like the union and the owners are going to come to an agreement

How do you figure that? Right now it looks less likely as time goes on, though something could change very quickly.

I think this. My understanding is that the CBA allows for a 2011 draft, but how will there be a 2012 draft? How will they rank the teams?

The assumption is that a CBA will be agreed upon by the time a 2012 draft rolls around. Your question of selection order is valid, though, and I'd just assume that they would have to go by the same order as 2011. Is it fair? Who knows. But it's what we got!

[Isifhan]

As for the 2012 draft, I suspect it would go on using the previous team rankings. That's what I'd do anyway.

I dunno about that. To me that's a pretty heavy advantage to a team that is drafting within the first couple of picks. Two number one picks in two consecutive years? Not sure how the financial ramifications would go (rookie cap etc) but to have your pick of the litter twice is pretty incredible. How many times in the past has the same team drafted #1 overall? Anyone know offhand?

[KDawg]

A draft with no season would be horrible for the rookies.... lock out = no mini camps, training camps, no games, no tuteledge from the coaches and vets... which all means: no learning and a wasted year of development. A disaster for a rookie player.

Well, I never think a lockout is good no matter what. However, keep in mind, that the players would be locked out of the facilities... That doesn't mean the players can't find other means to get together and practice to keep sharp/learn systems. And that doesn't mean the players can't communicate with the coaches.

[Hollywood1127]

Bottom line is, if there is a lockout, there is no football on tv. If there is no football on tv, there is no advertisement. If there is no advertisement, there is no money being made. If there is no money being made, players start looking for regular day jobs. And lets mention, all the money that is lost from people not spending money at the stadium. And who is say that the lockout won't last for more than 1 year? Lets say there is a 3 year lockout. Imagine how many college kids that majored in sports, will begin to take different routes. That's a lot of personel that will be leaving the football scene.

A lockout year, could ruin the foundation of the NFL. We don't want that to happen.

[HRNY4ZRNY]

We could draft a 1st and 2nd round pick next year... Like Julio Jones and a OL. Pick up a couple FA's.

Then next year we could draft all of our picks and after waiting what would seem like a lifetime we would have a completely different team.

Problem is so would every other team.