BD Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 I think this would be a great move, but I have to think that Milloy will choose the Bills (and Bledsoe, and the AFC East) over our offer. I don't think we're willing to throw money at him, but we do have the cap space... so let's see if the Danny will prove me wrong once again. BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTerps2002 Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 I am one of the people who beleives that Champ wants to be here but wants to win. I think this would be another positive move towards proving that is the motive here,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 Originally posted by RTerps2002 I am one of the people who beleives that Champ wants to be here but wants to win. I think this would be another positive move towards proving that is the motive here,,, This is what champ cares about: $$$$$$$$$ and :allhail: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigCb37 Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 Of course Champ cares about money, this is a huge contract for him because he is at the top of his game and he needs a contract that will set him up for life. Not everybody has a 19 year carrer like Darrell. We should sign Milloy if we can, he is a HUGE upgrade from Terrell or Ohalete. We do play the pats this year too so there can be some revenge there for Milloy to enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigchuck Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 Johnny Punani I love that sig. Who is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTerps2002 Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 Champ definatly cares about money is their anyone on this board who dosen't.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aREDSKIN Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 By Len Pasquarelli ESPN.com  If safety Lawyer Milloy is a veteran of at least moderately declining skills, as suggested by some New England officials after a Tuesday morning departure that sent shockwaves through the Patriots locker room, other teams around the league clearly don't share that assessment of him. Within two hours of Milloy's stunning release, ESPN.com reported Tuesday afternoon that the Buffalo Bills had already made a solid contract offer. By Tuesday night, Milloy and his representatives were mulling offers from at least three franchises, ESPN.com had learned. And a decision on where the seven-year veteran will resume his career could come as early as Wednesday, as some of the teams are seeking an expeditious resolution, and negotiations on all fronts are accelerating. "We'd sign him right now and play him on Sunday," said Buffalo team president Tom Donahoe. "We've made it clear that we want him here." The Bills host the Patriots in Sunday's regular-season opener in what already is viewed as a critical AFC East matchup. Beyond the Bills, the Washington Redskins and New Orleans Saints have made offers and remain in the hunt. It is believed Washington has offered a multi-year contract that would pay Milloy about $5 million over the first two seasons. League sources said that the Saints had offered a three-year contract. The Minnesota Vikings demonstrated early interest and then, when they saw where the market was headed, backed off later in the day. The New York Jets also made at least one exploratory phone call but it is believed their interest waned as well. Responses were mixed when ESPN.com phoned league personnel directors and general managers throughout the day Tuesday to ask if they think Milloy's abilities had declined. But most personnel men surveyed said they felt Milloy is still among the NFL's top players at his position. Several noted that his big-play skills were somewhat diminished but that he still had several good years remaining. "It doesn't show up on film," said one general manager of Milloy's alleged decline. Milloy was entering the fourth season of a seven-year, $35 million contract that was seen as a landmark deal for a safety when he signed it in 2000. New England will save $4.4 million on its 2003 cap but will have to count about $6 million on its 2004 spending limit because of various prorated signing bonus segments. Patriots sources said late Tuesday night that keeping Milloy on the regular-season roster would have pushed the team over the 2003 cap limit and perhaps forced the release of a starter or two. During the offseason, the so-called "rule of 51" applies to a team's salary cap, meaning it must count only its highest-paid 51 players against the ceiling. But when the regular season begins, every player under contract counts against the cap, and a club's account typically rises. The scheduled 2003 cap charge for Milloy was $5.836 million. The two sides had been working on a potential reworked deal for four or five months but could not get together on numbers amenable to Milloy and the Patriots brass. Of the three teams known to still be chasing Milloy, all offer a degree of attractiveness, and he may ultimately be forced to decide between money and a chance to perhaps play in a third Super Bowl game. In Buffalo, he would be reunited with former New England quarterback Drew Bledsoe, who urged Bills officials to sign Milloy, and who spoke with the safety by phone a few times on Tuesday. There is also the specter of being able to play the Patriots twice yearly, an obvious revenge element. Bledsoe, who is being counted on to demonstrate his skills as a recruiter, figures to be Buffalo's big plus. The Bills want more big plays from their safeties and their current starters, Pierson Prioleau and Coy Wire, combined for zero interceptions in 2002. Going to New Orleans would reunite Milloy with his former Patriots safety partner, Tebucky Jones, who was traded to the Saints this spring. During the several weeks in which team officials were negotiating the Jones swap, ESPN.com confirmed the Patriots several times offered Milloy as an alternative in the trade. New Orleans last week lost starting free safety Mel Mitchell to a knee injury. Last year's starter, Jay Bellamy, has been promoted into the lineup. Some Saints officials see him, though, as a liability in the club's revamped defense. Given the past history of owner Daniel Snyder, the Redskins may well offer the most money of all Milloy's suitors. Washington has more than $5 million in cap room, may not blink if the financial ante is raised, and certainly could use a player of Milloy's ilk to anchor its interior secondary. One of the Saints' players said Tuesday night that Milloy had hinted he favored the Redskins but wanted more time to consider his decision. While the action was heated for the teams pursuing Milloy, his former New England teammates remained puzzled by the move, and by its unusual timing. "Has it ever been this quiet in here? I don't think it has," said linebacker Tedy Bruschi, a former Milloy teammate, of the Pats' locker room. "I think 'shocked' is the word. . . . You sort of just shake your head and ask yourself, 'Why?' " Milloy started in 106 consecutive games going back to his rookie year in 1996, when the Patriots won the AFC championship but lost to Green Bay in Super Bowl XXXI. He led the team in tackles in 2001, when New England won Super Bowl XXXVI. But last year, Milloy had no sacks, no forced fumbles, no sacks and no interceptions. His 91 tackles represented his fewest since he became a full-time starter. The Patriots will not concede this point, at least not publicly, but some team officials and coaches felt Milloy had not performed on the field to his salary level. Said coach Bill Belichick in announcing the release: "Today is a day that nobody is happy about. This isn't the way we wanted this story to end. This is the hardest player that I have had to release. It was the hardest situation that I've had to go through like this, here or anywhere else." The Patriots have said they did not make the move in order to create a position for a player to be added from outside the organization. They stressed publicly the release was a financial matter only and said Milloy's successor will come from a group of younger players that includes Antwan Harris, Aric Morris and Chris Akins, none of whom has ever been a starter. "It is scary in the timing," said New England cornerback Ty Law, who has the same agent as Milloy, and who has also been approached about reworking his contract. "There is such a thing as good business and bad business. I don't know what category this one falls under. But to my eyes, and being selfish, at this late in the game and in regard to him and his family, I'm sure this is something that could have been done a long time ago." Len Pasquarelli is a senior writer for ESPN.com. The Associated Press also contributed to this story. Milloy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 Originally posted by RTerps2002 Champ definatly cares about money is their anyone on this board who dosen't.... But that is all it seems he cares about. They offered him a 14.7 mill SB and he didn't even give them a counter offer. He doesn't want to be on the skins he wants to get paid. I have lost a lot of respect for him by the way he has handled this whole contract situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J33Edwards Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 Originally posted by jbooma He doesn't want to be on the skins he wants to get paid. I have lost a lot of respect for him by the way he has handled this whole contract situation. same here...hopefully we just don't have all the facts yet :dallasuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 They got any footage about how he matches up against Shockey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 The saints know because Tebucky Jones also played safety in New England with Milloy I prefer that the Jest sign him tomorrow if we dont so he isnt a factor in any games against us this season. Champ is sounding like he is ONLY about the money. If he thinks he deserves 18 to 20 million in signing bonus I guess it time to project those two number one draft picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nighthawk Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 I just heard Herm Edwards on the radio and he said that he was going to talk to Milloy right after he was done with the radio interview. From the things he said, and didn't say, it sounded like something was up, like he knows that he's coming to the JETS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gridironmike Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 Originally posted by Oldskool For the one to two years we could get out of Champ (with the tag) and Milloy not losing a step, it would be. after that it would explode in our faces. :doh: The Future is Now!! Ever heard that one. George Allen would've thrived in the free agency movement of todays players. What would be wrong with having Milloy in here (cheaply) and letting Iffy learn a little while longer. How do you think Gibbs groomed QB's for our system?? The IR meant In-training Redskin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 The great thing about bringing Milloy here would be that he can contribute almost immediately. The only thing holding him up would be how we call our defense. Bowen can tell him in the huddle where to go. He just has to be an athlete after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNorth Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 $2.5 Million for a top 5 safety is a good deal, especially when you consider that Tebucky Jones got some big money from the saints & he is not even close to being the player that Milloy is. That said I feel Milloy will stay in the AFC East. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryman of the North Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 (HOMER simpson voice)Do it,DOOOO it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronMike Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 Milloy is NOT a top 5 safety! Let me get this right.... You want to spend how much for a guy who plays SS and had 0 sacks, 0 INTs and 0 forced fumbles last year? It is obvious to me that he got the Stubblefield disease: sign the big contract, then let your skills decline or slack off with the big payday. No, please NO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 why would Milloy go to the Jets? they just lost 4 starters in the offseason and their starting QB is out for the season. the Jets aren't going anywhere in 2003. you would think Milloy would go to a team with a better chance to win right away or to the team that offers the most money. in either case it ain't the Jets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTerps2002 Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 Milloy is a top 5 safety.. He didn't have the stats last year but he still went to the pro bowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryman of the North Posted September 3, 2003 Share Posted September 3, 2003 Iron mike even if he is not a top 5 safety he is a significant upgrade over our current guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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