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Big Blue Joe

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Of all the changes/rule changes in the game THIS is what you have a problem with? You HAVE to have that rule in place unless you want every WR to get completely MUGGED on every play.
Prior to 2004, there had been 1 season in NFL history where 5 QB's threw for 4000 yards in a season, 1999. SInce 2004, when the league made illegal contact a "point of emphasis," 5 QB's did it in 2004 and another 5 in 2006, 8 accomplished that feat in 2007, 7 made it to 4000 yards in 2008, and a record 10 QB's passed for 4000 yards in 2009. When is enough enough? Quality defensive play is becoming a thing of the past in the NFL.
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VCDefectors

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I like the comparison to American society. I agree the corporate sponsorships is sickening.

FedEx Field? Ugh.

Like I stated above, it took leaving the country to understand that Americans have a certain way of thinking that influences everything within the culture. What can be said about NFL athletes can be said for the vast majority of Americans. Americans largely live in a bubble that prevents them from seeing a bigger truth. Americans also have their heads stuck in the past (the way Cowboys fans have their heads stuck in the 90s). I'm not anti-American per se, I'm just more interested in finding truth and where it takes me.

But I digress (please excuse the political rant). It'll be interesting to see if the NFL adapts to the new economy, and the cry from fans for less big NFL government, or if each year, new regulations continues to water down the sport into a socialist bureaucracy.

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Homercles82

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I am sick of how overhyped everything is. I actually think there is too much coverage on all channels. I can turn the TV on at 6am on Sunday and catch NFL covergae on at least 3 stations. I can turn it on Saturday night for the same thing.

I used to watch football all day on Sunday now I watch only the Redskins game and maybe half of the Sunday night game. Then on Monday night I may watch half of that too. My only interested in non-Redskins games are for fantasy football reasons and to see the Cowboys lose. I have watched soem college football but I think it is nonsensical how their championship and bowl games are chosen. One thing the NFL has over College by far is that a 9-7 team can get hot at the right time and be the team to beat. If you lose one game in college your championship chances fall dramatically, and in the case of BSU, if your opponents aren't the strongest but you are still blowing them out you can be ignored for top ranking or even (eventually) not get to the championship game.

There was this huge emphasis on helmet-to-helmet hits last week, rightfully so, but in yesterdays Redskins/Bears game there were 2 helmet-to-helmet hits that were not called. One was against Cooley who just recovered from a concussion.

Football is overhyped, overcovered and at sometimes it feels like the rules are changed to fit how they want the games to turnout.

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ixcuincle

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The leagues were mostly better in the past (other than the NHL)

NBA was better back then

NFL was better back then

MLB pretty much better now with interleague and wild cards

As the resident NBA hater and troll I will say that the decline of the NBA is much more apparent than the decline of the NFL...in that league you basically cannot play defense anymore. At least you can play defense in the NFL.

Is the NFL declining...yes. Is it more "safe" and "PC" than the previous era when players like Jack Tatum and Ronnie Lott ****ed people up? Yes. It's still a watchable product though.

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ntotoro

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I would say it's looking hay way. It really kind of reminds me of NASCAR in the early 2000's. They tried to take off the rough edges and are now slowly losing at the gate and on TV.

NASCAR was different. They were the latest fad that upon which people were hitching their trailers. The powers-that-be tried to do stupid stuff to make the sport more acceptable to the mainstream, thus alienating core fans. Combine the bad economy, cheap HD televisions and the departure of the fad freaks and what you have is what you see now.

The NFL isn't a fad. I've lost count how many sacks I've seen in old NFL Films documentaries that would be roughing the passer today. I sometimes wonder if the NFL is acting more to protect players, though, or their legal interests (much like Bob Costas said last night).

That said, there's no excuse for a player launching himself off his feet. That's a poor-man's substitution for bad tackling and I think we can all agree the ability to tackle among NFL D-men has taken a nosedive.

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Yesterday it was reported by Peter King that there was not a single "dirty" hit like the ones last week that caused so much controversy. Yet there were still a total of 9 pick sixes created by defenses, which I believe is the most amount of pick sixes ever scored in one day of NFL football. So yes, Defense is still alive and viable. Players will need to adjust to this new emphasis and it looks like they are. I don't see the NFL suddenly collapsing because guys aren't as reckless as they used to be.

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Big Blue Joe

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Yesterday it was reported by Peter King that there was not a single "dirty" hit like the ones last week that caused so much controversy. Yet there were still a total of 9 pick sixes created by defenses, which I believe is the most amount of pick sixes ever scored in one day of NFL football. So yes, Defense is still alive and viable.
At 52.6 points/game, it was also the highest scoring weekend in 26 or 27 years. If defense is still alive, it certainly isn't kicking.
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Excellent topic!! Yes, the NFL is a mere shell of what it used to be. The change in rules to emphasize is just one thing. To me, the biggest problem is how big money has ruined the sport. Players nowadays live in such a bubble. People forget that at one point, players used to have to take up summer jobs, you know - keep a foot in reality. Players now tend to live in the bubble for so long that they can't function like a normal human being after the days of football are over.

Having all of these corporate names on stadiums is also a huge turnoff.

The NFL is a microcosm of American Society. The gap between the rich and poor widens. The over-commercialization (1 minute of actual football, followed by 5 minutes of commercials), the pain of going to a live game (parking, cost), dealing with insecure dudes at the bars. It took me actually leaving the country to figure it out. That is, the relative decline of the NFL is really just a product of the decline of American Society.

Well said. I didn't have to leave the country to figure all of that out though. ;)

Even the players are sick of all of the flipping commericials. Football is still the best sport in the entire universe, but when I watch hockey it is like a breath of fresh air to see so many consecutive minutes of unbroken play.

Also, Sun Life Stadium, really? I mean M&T is bad enough, but all of the names that stadium has been through is crazy... /rant

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pjfootballer

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Names on the stadium are just money in the pockets of the owners.

Sometimes I love to watch the football follies on NFL Network just to see the old players. I love to pop in my Redskins DVDs from their SB years to watch the NFL the way it used to be.

I agree with alot of you that the game is way overhyped. I don't really need to watch football pregame at 9 AM. I used to enjoy the FOX pregame show, but now, I watch the games only. I don't even really watch highlights anymore.

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SWFLSkins

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Out of curiosity, the decline of the American society in comparison to when?

Wow, get a scoop there are worms running everywhere. Hey speaking of worms how come one worm is slow, but a whole can of them go really fast.

Names on the stadium are just money in the pockets of the owners.

Sometimes I love to watch the football follies on NFL Network just to see the old players. I love to pop in my Redskins DVDs from their SB years to watch the NFL the way it used to be.

I agree with alot of you that the game is way overhyped. I don't really need to watch football pregame at 9 AM. I used to enjoy the FOX pregame show, but now, I watch the games only. I don't even really watch highlights anymore.

Yeah, I used to follow more teams than just the Skins and watch the shows before and after also. Not so much anymore, but I thought it was just me and my schedule.

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Homercles82

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Speaking of stadium names, I would not have as much of an issue with FedEx field if Snyder painted the panels above the stadium burgandy and gold instead of the ugly fedex purple, green and orange. The lots are already colored after FedEx, at least make the stadium match the main attraction.

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Snarky

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No.

Once it becomes established that leading with the helmet is NOT okay (see: Merriweather, Brandon), players will adapt. It's funny because we don't see the kind of crap that Jack Tatum and others used to do... no clotheslining, etc, and we still have Ray Lewis patrolling the middle.

It's a lot like Madden, really. Each year they tweek the offense, but unless the defense keeps up, the game becomes no fun. I get the point. But I think the league does too. Nobody wants Arena football scores in the NFL. But I doubt we'll see three-yards-and-a-cloud-of-dust return anytime soon either.

There's still the NHL if all else fails.

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There's still the NHL if all else fails.

Actually, the best thing to happen to the NHL was to eliminate the clutching, grabbing and interference. The game time is shorter and the action is alot smoother. Scoring has gone up, but not too much. Also, taking out the 2 line pass infraction opened up the ice.

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