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You know it's funny. It's the same thing over and over in Redskins land. You look at the threads and fans will say McNabb is a bum, Shanahan can't call plays, ect, ect. None of that matters. The Redskins can't block. They have had the worst oline in the nfl for several seasons now.

The Redskins can't run block, and they can't pass protect. Guys used to talk about how terrible Campbell was last year, and he probably is a bust, but bring in HOF QB McNabb and other than a little more success on broken plays nothing looks any different. People used to dump on Zorn, who was definitely in over his head, but HOF coach Shanahan and all the talk of how much better the off-season was, and things really don't look different.

Aikman was exactly right when he siad it doesn't really matter what Shanahan does, Bruce Allen is the one that has to change things. But how long will that take?

The Skins have almost zero young talent to develop other than Orakpo and Williams, and once again they don't have many draft picks next Spring. They need a NT, a RB, a WR, at least 1 LB, and at least 3 olineman. Meanwhile we just cut our top draft pick from a couple of seasons ago and the other is on IR and can't stay healthy. New England in contrast has 2 picks in each of the first 4 rounds next season.

I hate to say it guys, but this situation is going to be bad for a long time. It's a shame b/c put a decent line in front of McNabb and this is a decent team.

Savvy fans in ES have been saying it for years: It all starts up front and the Skins just don't have the horses on the line. But Redskins management, no matter who that is, continues to propigate the fantasy that they are a McNabb, or a Haynesworth, or a Jason Taylor away from being contenders so they continue to trade away those critical second and third round picks.

When will the Redskins admit defeat and truly start over? Until they face the fact that the formula they've used for the last decade has been a failure, they will continue to stink it up on the field. Me, I don't know how much more I can watch of this.

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This all starts at the top. Under Snyder and his right hand man Vinny, the Redskins have turned into the travesty that you see on the field. Snyder may have learned his lesson, and Vinny is gone, but IMO It is going to take at least 3 years to undo the mess and rebuild

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This all starts at the top. Under Snyder and his right hand man Vinny, the Redskins have turned into the travesty that you see on the field. Snyder may have learned his lesson, and Vinny is gone, but IMO It is going to take at least 3 years to undo the mess and rebuild

That is exactly right and my fear is that Allen isn't any better. So far he seems to be following the same pattern of drafting away picks.

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what will make Allen look bad and sink shannys ship is that in a seaosn when we needed to completely revamp our offence and especially our Line, for some reason shanny decided to blow up the defence , and thats gonna take several draft picks now. so we will need

developmental qb, RB, fb, OG, OG, C, RT, WR then depth and then on defence we need NT, DE, OLB, ILB, ILB, FS, and perhaps a CB, the worst part is that those positions are now in dire need of STARTERS.how many teams require that massive a turnover in the second season of a changeover?I hope everyone is ready to be patient, like I said , this will be at least 3 years before we really see improvement

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That is exactly right and my fear is that Allen isn't any better. So far he seems to be following the same pattern of drafting away picks.

Well to be fair this past off-season was quite different than any other. I would hazard a guess that 2/3 of the free agents were hindered so that left little ability to pick up any young talent.

And as for the draft picks, they have traded a few, but the deal for McNabb is worth it provided they can get him extended. The deal for Brown was not terrible and he is a better option than Heyer. I thought the trade for Carriker was a dang good trade for us and it really did not cost us much.

If I recall, we have lost the 3rd and 4th round picks so far. ( McNabb and Brown trade but they do get a late rounder back from the Saints)

Free agency should be much better next off-season. All those RFA will either be UFA or resigned. I think a few guys will be picked up there.

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You know it's funny. It's the same thing over and over in Redskins land. You look at the threads and fans will say McNabb is a bum, Shanahan can't call plays, ect, ect. None of that matters. The Redskins can't block. They have had the worst oline in the nfl for several seasons now.

The Redskins can't run block, and they can't pass protect. Guys used to talk about how terrible Campbell was last year, and he probably is a bust, but bring in HOF QB McNabb and other than a little more success on broken plays nothing looks any different. People used to dump on Zorn, who was definitely in over his head, but HOF coach Shanahan and all the talk of how much better the off-season was, and things really don't look different.

Aikman was exactly right when he siad it doesn't really matter what Shanahan does, Bruce Allen is the one that has to change things. But how long will that take?

The Skins have almost zero young talent to develop other than Orakpo and Williams, and once again they don't have many draft picks next Spring. They need a NT, a RB, a WR, at least 1 LB, and at least 3 olineman. Meanwhile we just cut our top draft pick from a couple of seasons ago and the other is on IR and can't stay healthy. New England in contrast has 2 picks in each of the first 4 rounds next season.

I hate to say it guys, but this situation is going to be bad for a long time. It's a shame b/c put a decent line in front of McNabb and this is a decent team.

Savvy fans in ES have been saying it for years: It all starts up front and the Skins just don't have the horses on the line. But Redskins management, no matter who that is, continues to propigate the fantasy that they are a McNabb, or a Haynesworth, or a Jason Taylor away from being contenders so they continue to trade away those critical second and third round picks.

When will the Redskins admit defeat and truly start over? Until they face the fact that the formula they've used for the last decade has been a failure, they will continue to stink it up on the field. Me, I don't know how much more I can watch of this.

How can Allen change an entire roster in 1 offseason? Come on, bro!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I disagree, I think the FO is on the right track. I don't see them giving up the top two picks and I can see them not giving up third round picks anything other than a clear impact player.

My only concern is the same as any other team. Finding talent in the draft. If the skins can draft well, they will continue to get better.

Also, we have good coaches. We just need better players.

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its why you dont bring that smug smack before the final gun. GSF is a smart dude with good football takes and then he dumbs himself down later in the thread by continuing to predict with his suddenly stubborn take.

classic extremeskins fail. even the smart ones make em..

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Good luck with that. Defense and packers' injuries are keeping us in it.

No luck needed they beat a good team, a playoff team, even with all our flaws. Everybody counted us out and we found a way to win. Thanks Redskins and Shanny/Allen especially with all our injuries we still beat a better team.

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Yes we won, but cmon we got lucky. All those Packers injured including Mattews. Everyone want to move on and talk about drafting a WR or RB when really we are still not finish building this offensive line. We can't allow McNabb to be taking hits like that every week. Grateful for the win though...

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Yes we won, but cmon we got lucky. All those Packers injured including Mattews. Everyone want to move on and talk about drafting a WR or RB when really we are still not finish building this offensive line. We can't allow McNabb to be taking hits like that every week. Grateful for the win though...

for what its worth, I totally agree except the luck part. we created a ton of good luck today by being extremely well coached and physical.

it will be neat to watch what the roster accomplishes as shanny and allen get there own menu out there to eat from.

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Yes we won, but cmon we got lucky. All those Packers injured including Mattews. Everyone want to move on and talk about drafting a WR or RB when really we are still not finish building this offensive line. We can't allow McNabb to be taking hits like that every week. Grateful for the win though...

Thats part of the game. I guess whoever Green bay plays next week will be considered lucky too if they beat Green bay because of the injuries suffered from this week if they don't play?

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How can Allen change an entire roster in 1 offseason? Come on, bro!!!!!!!!!!!!

that's not the argument GSF made...follow the logic:

- trading draft picks undercuts the ability to restock with youth

- the team created greater off-season needs by shifting to the 3-4 w/o the right talent

- the team still has 2-3 gaps on the O-line and obvious problems in the receiving corps

he's saying the ability to turn this around might actually take longer than expected because of current decisions. and if that is the case...the part he left out is when does QB become a concern again?

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