Barry.Randolphe Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Gil ruined his reputation with Twitter posts about WNBA players not being hot enough. No team is coming within a 10 foot pole of him now....sad 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, Barry.Randolphe said: Gil ruined his reputation with Twitter posts about WNBA players not being hot enough. No team is coming within a 10 foot pole of him now....sad Well, yea...that, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Gil is tremendously charismatic but he is unemployable. He's going to have to live on edgy and unconventional media outlets. Remember when ESPN used to publish his blog on their website? That was fun. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry.Randolphe Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Whatever happened to his show with Mia Khalifa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 It's not even that he's charismatic...dude KNOWS his stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 (edited) He would probably have to go through some mental health counseling, and likely be upfront about it. Maybe then after some time, they give him a job as a reclamation story. He needs help and change that he doesnt seem ready to make In other news: Edited July 25, 2019 by StillUnknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Wizards get a lot of **** and rightfully so but this is a good move. Imagine being in your early 30's and being an assistant GM, and a lifelong fan of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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StillUnknown Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 That assistant GM kinda has an Igor from Ghostbusters look. Looks are deceiving but dude looks like he's never shot a ball in his existence. He could probably make some serious money hustling, although it could get dangerous real quick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 He's the nerdiest looking white dude I have ever seen. I would like to know what his Reddit handle is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 16 hours ago, StillUnknown said: In other news: God dammit. We took on salary for this guy. Although we weren't exactly getting much for the five something we were gonna spend on Dwight. I don't know anything about medicine, but my 2 minutes worth of research said that surgical procedure was minimally invasive so hopefully he'll be back soon, but as the article stated, we're not going to have a timetable for return until a couple weeks before the season starts. Kind of a weird way for the article to frame his acquisition though, as a replacement for Wall's production? It's clear Miles was intended to have a very different role. Basically, he's supposed to be Ariza's replacement. A poor man's version. Everything points to us being some bull**** this season. Gonna have to set expectations very low, and use these as measurements for success: 1 - Getting an extension done with Beal 2 - Getting a good draft pick and spending it well 3 - Hachimura looking decent 4 - Troy Brown looking a lot better 5 - Bryant getting better on defense Bonus would be having any of these other new faces like the Lakers prospects or Bertans demonstrating long term value. Super bonus would be showing legit signs of life on defense and demonstrating a foundation to build on from that side of the court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 I'm far from an expert, and I seriously do like the new plan for Monumental basketball that the organization has come up with and begin to implement. I think it's a grand vision and I would enjoy supporting it. But I have a persistent apprehension that the people we're putting in place to execute this impressive plan are all B level personnel when the NBA is just too good and we need some guys who are A level to win a championship with the Wizards. For instance Beal is like a B level star who isn't in the same class as the Clippers and Warriors and Rockets and Bucks and 76ers and Lakers guys. Hachimura is a B level prospect--a good find at nine in a bad draft--but not at the same level as the guys the Grizzlies and Pelicans got. Bryant is like a B level young big prospect who isn't in the same class as a Clint Capela or Myles Turner. Not even sure I'd call Scott Brooks a B level coach... We need someone transcendent in the organization. Not sure if any of the new hires qualify. Not sure if an organization full of B level personnel can collaborate their way to elite competitiveness. But I think that's what we're hoping for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) I remain hopeful that the structure produces some kind of cohesive vision for the franchise moving forward. I still have some questions about Sheppard, but i like the fact that he has stated we will not be chasing 8th seeds just to say we made the playoffs Part of me wonders if Leonsis is overcorrecting from a previous error. He's gone from having one odious voice in his ear to a collection of seemingly smart individuals who will all have their influence on how we move forward. Listening to only person is clearly wrong, especially when it was grunfeld, but this current setup can easily turn into to too many cooks in the kitchen. Everybody is preaching collaboration and harmony, but it will never be easier to do so than at the current moment. The real test will come when some of the move inevitably dont work out for whatever reasons. Edited July 26, 2019 by StillUnknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) 17 hours ago, ixcuincle said: Wizards get a lot of **** and rightfully so but this is a good move. Imagine being in your early 30's and being an assistant GM, and a lifelong fan of the team. Ok, first of all that dude is not a Wizards fan. He was probably talking about Dungeons and Dragons or some other nerd game when he said he grew up idolizing the Wizards. If it actually is the basketball team, I question his decision making. A 33 year old wunderkind should have been smart enough to find a different team to cheer for. Edited July 26, 2019 by Sacks 'n' Stuff 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
“Misdirection” Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 All jokes aside, I worked with Brett at Monumental and have talked to him a few times. Kid is smart as hell. Understands the game. Got his start when Tim Connelly was back with the organization. Been here awhile, truly is a Wizards fan. Very analytics and modeling heavy to compliment Tommy's strengths. FWIW Tommy is a good dude too. Can't say if he'll succeed or not but interactions I've had with him vs. Grunfeld were night and day. Tommy is a way more personable dude. I think Ernie knew everyone in the building (but one) wanted him gone for the last few years lol. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 33 minutes ago, StillUnknown said: Everybody is preaching collaboration and harmony, but it will never be easier to do so than at the current moment. The real test will come when some of the move inevitably dont work out for whatever reasons. Well I suppose the hope is that, if you build up enough trust between your collaborators, then you will have a good culture and you won't get all of the finger pointing that could result from mistakes. I think there is another risk to the approach too. Groupthink. It kind of feels like the product of a collaborative approach is safe consensus, and that it can lead to missed opportunities. Whereas if you have one genius at the top making decisions, like a Masai Ujiri, they can make those next level moves that no one else can see the value in until later. Our draft discussion in this thread prior t the draft is an example of groupthink leading us down the wrong path, for example. We have a kind of collaborative atmosphere in here, and we largely settled on a consensus that Bol Bol was our favorite option at 9. If we had been in charge, we would have committed a draft reach by 35 picks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 Groupthink: Where no one person will be forced to take blame but everyone will be happy to take credit. Jack Kent Cooke for all his faults did it right. Picked people to run things. If there was a stalemate, he made the final decision. Wash, Rinse, Repeat. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 1 hour ago, @SkinsGoldPants said: Groupthink: Where no one person will be forced to take blame but everyone will be happy to take credit. Jack Kent Cooke for all his faults did it right. Picked people to run things. If there was a stalemate, he made the final decision. Wash, Rinse, Repeat. He owned the Redskins prior to the information revolution. We're still in the early stages of mass data's effect on pro basketball. In ten years people will probably look back on me using "advanced" metrics derived from common box score stats and consider me a chimpanzee. I think Ted's right that the next era of competitiveness will involve heavy collaboration in front office organization just to handle all of the data and all of the different parts of the job of modern pro sports management. Executive talent will always matter though. Ted's argument is that, because Monumental owns all of these different entities, they can pool resources to pioneer a new way of sports management that would be cost prohibitive to other teams, and that will give them a competitive edge. I don't know about that. The Wizards don't strike me as a revenue beast and I can't imagine the other teams are that profitable. Is all of this getting paid for with Caps money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 3 Advanced issues found ▲ 1 23 minutes ago, stevemcqueen1 said: Ted's argument is that, because Monumental owns all of these different entities, they can pool resources to pioneer a new way of sports management that would be cost prohibitive to other teams, and that will give them a competitive edge. I don't know about that. The Wizards don't strike me as a revenue beast and I can't imagine the other teams are that profitable. Is all of this getting paid for with Caps money? He also said he wasn't that involved in what Ernie was doing which seems super shady. You still need a final say. If that means you have people and when they agree, you go with it and when they don't. You break the tie. Or if they present their options to you and you make the decision. Either way, somebody needs to be in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 https://wizofawes.com/2019/07/25/washington-wizards-caesars-over-under/?mi_u=AD2145F1-30C1-4ADB-9AEA-158848EFAC00 Washington Wizards Towards the Bottom of Caesars’ NBA Win Totals by Ethan Smith 3 days ago Follow @eth_dougie Tweet Share x Comment Like most others, Caesars Sportsbook doesn’t see many wins in the Washington Wizards’ future. Fewer wins than they had last season, in fact. The exciting Monumental Basketball announcement hasn’t changed many folks mind about the upcoming season. The Tommy Sheppard – Sahsi Brown duo may have sparked some hope, just not for this season according to the over/under win totals released by Caesars Sportsbook on Thursday, July 25. Similar to what we saw in Power Rankings from ESPN and The Athletic, the Washington Wizards find themselves towards the bottom of Caesars Sportbook’s list. They set the over/under at 28.5 wins for the Wizards. Only four teams (New York Knicks, Phoenix Suns, Memphis Grizzlies, Cleveland Cavaliers, and Charlotte Hornets) have smaller over/under totals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 I'll take the under. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry.Randolphe Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 I like this move actually....he seems to have a good background + connections to the Euro leagues. Hopefully he can find us a Doncic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterMP Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 On 7/26/2019 at 2:25 PM, stevemcqueen1 said: He owned the Redskins prior to the information revolution. We're still in the early stages of mass data's effect on pro basketball. In ten years people will probably look back on me using "advanced" metrics derived from common box score stats and consider me a chimpanzee. I think Ted's right that the next era of competitiveness will involve heavy collaboration in front office organization just to handle all of the data and all of the different parts of the job of modern pro sports management. Executive talent will always matter though. Ted's argument is that, because Monumental owns all of these different entities, they can pool resources to pioneer a new way of sports management that would be cost prohibitive to other teams, and that will give them a competitive edge. I don't know about that. The Wizards don't strike me as a revenue beast and I can't imagine the other teams are that profitable. Is all of this getting paid for with Caps money? Teams are already tracking each player in space with the position of the ball. There's a crazy amount of data out there to be collected in basketaball and more and more of it is being collected and analyzed in real time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 46 minutes ago, PeterMP said: Teams are already tracking each player in space with the position of the ball. There's a crazy amount of data out there to be collected in basketaball and more and more of it is being collected and analyzed in real time. It's basically an ocean of available data to analyze. And I assume we'll be continuously discovering new data points to track, and better ways to track them. I think Ted is right that best practices in sports management will evolve towards collaboration simply because a broader group of people with true influence over decision making is necessary to handle all of the information teams have available to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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