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      We’re still doing this?  Absolutely!  Despite all the compelling reasons to just let everyone go home and enjoy and extended offseason, this is not an option.  The games must be played, and therefore we the long-suffering fans will feel compelled to watch.  Even games no reasonable football fan would choose to watch like, for example, today’s Redskins Jets game.   

      Today’s convergence of sadness features the 30th ranked scoring offense (Jets 14.4 ppg) versus the 32nd (Redskins 12.0 ppg).  The first team to 15 wins!  With no playoff aspirations the compelling story lines for this game are largely limited to watching young players (hopefully) develop.  Dwayne Haskins gets his first home start and Derrius Guice is back from injury.   
       
      My, reasonable, goals for today’s game:  
      1- Score a touchdown 
      2- Score more than 17 points.   
      3- Haskins throws for 200 yards or more with no interceptions  
      4- Guice runs the ball at least 10 times and finishes at 3.5 yards per carry and healthy.  
       
      Hoping for a win at this point feels like setting myself up for disappointment, so I’m happy to settle for an entertaining loss.  
       
      Special thanks to @pez for some excellent Guinness beef stew.  If you absolutely have to stand in a frozen parking lot at 9am, the best place to do it is at the Extremeskins Tailgate with Pez and @Huly.  Great fans, great people. 
       
      The Redskins have declared for the following players as inactive: 
      Paul Richardson  
      Colt McCoy 
      Deshazor Everett 
      Chris Thompson  
      Ross Pierschbacher 
      Vernon Davis  
      Tim Settle  
       
      The Jets declared the following players as inactive  
      Nate Hairston  
      Darryl Roberts  
      Paul Worrilow 
      Matthias Farley  
      CJ Mosley  
      Jordan Willis  
      Leo Koloamatangi 
       
      1st Quarter - Redskins 0 - 6 Jets
      If you wanted to sit in the cold and watch a football game with some Jets fans at FedEx, but were worried that there were not enough seats available, I have good news.  There’s plenty of space available, so come on down and prove you’re a real fan by sitting though this in person.
       
      Jets dominated the 1st quarter even though they only scored 6 points.  The reason being that Washington managed only 13 yards of offense and a single first down.  
       
      Question: Is it still a check down pass if the QB never looks at anyone else?
       
      2nd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      The Jets have achieved an insurmountable 13 point lead early in the 2nd quarter.  All hope is lost.

      Is there a more perfect example of the Redskins offense than their first scoring drive in the 2nd quarter?  Interception gives the Redskins the ball on the Jets 16 yard line.  They proceed to march 10 yards backwards before kicking a field goal from the Jets 26.  It's perfect.  Two or three more field goals we can call it a day. 

      The Jets score again and if feels like they are are just piling on at this point.  Three touchdowns in the first half for them, just three points for the redskins.  Our streak of no touchdowns has now extended to 15 quarters. 
       
      3rd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      There is a spider slowly descending from the ceiling in the press box and it's the most interesting thing that's happened during the third quarter of this game. 
       
      I have decided to allow the spider to live, provided it does not touch me.  I'm off to get some more caffeine. 

      4th Quarter - Redskins 17 - 34 Jets
      The first wave of Redskins fans, the few that are here, started streaming towards the exits after that 4th Jets touchdown.  As if the Jets didn't have this game wrapped up in the 2nd quarter. 
       
      Jet have now more than doubled their average points per game and have matched their season high of 34 points (and they missed two field goals in this game). 
       
      TOUCHDOWN REDSKINS!  THE DROUGHT IT OVER!  Guice took a short pass from Haskins  all the way to the house.  2 point conversion is successful on a pass from Haskins to Quinn. 
       
      The Redskins score another touchdown!  This feels like an embarrassment of riches, even if we are still certain to lose this game. 
       
      End of Game.
       
      Let's review those reasonable goals I mentioned earlier:
       
      1- Success.
      2- Close enough, I'm counting it
      3- Haskins did throw for over 200, but unfortunately did have an interception. 
      4- Guice was not given the opportunity to run the ball ten times today.  He did however score on a 45 yard TD pass and finish the game healthy.  I'll take it.
       
      Even though the Redskins lost, it was good to see the offense show some faint signs of life and end the streak of games without a TD.  The team looked competitive for much of the second half, and perhaps they could have made this a fun game if they carried that same energy throughout.  It was good to see Guice and Mclaurin show out today.  I think both of them have a future with this team that I look forward to seeing. 

       
       

       
       
       
       
       
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The Official Washington Wizards Thread: The JOHN WALL ERA

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Ok here we go. Apparently this is why McGee played for the Drew League team: http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/showdown-between-drew-goodman-leagues-finally-has-arrived/2011/08/18/gIQAAlkYOJ_story_1.html

McGee spent part of his youth in Los Angeles when his mother played for the WNBA’s Sparks.

---------- Post added August-21st-2011 at 11:50 AM ----------

From that same article, apparently DeMarcus Cousins played for the Goodman team because he works out in DC during the offseason. Hmmm...

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Yeah, why'd KD have to sign an extension with that ******* Clay Bennett? :mad:

And too bad we can't get Blake Griffin and Dwight.

Wall, any SG, Durant, Griffin, Dwight.

Guaranteed ESPN top play every night.

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I still think we're sleeper front runners in the Dwight sweepstakes. Especially if he makes it to free agency (isn't traded and reupped.) After that, Blake is a real possibility. And then Cousins is the fall back plan. The combination of Ted and Wall have changed everything. People are going to want to play for Ted and with Wall. The whole Agent Zero era was a helluva ride, but im not sure ive ever been more excited as a Wiz fan than now. Maybe the day we traded for CWebb and played the eventual-champion Bulls TOUGH in the playoffs. Hopefully, for once, we have aa happy ending on this one. I have Faith in Ted.

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I still think we're sleeper front runners in the Dwight sweepstakes. Especially if he makes it to free agency (isn't traded and reupped.) After that, Blake is a real possibility. And then Cousins is the fall back plan. The combination of Ted and Wall have changed everything. People are going to want to play for Ted and with Wall. The whole Agent Zero era was a helluva ride, but im not sure ive ever been more excited as a Wiz fan than now.

As much as I like Wall I don't feel the same excitement over him that I felt about Gil. :2cents:

In fact, I believe that Gil could do everything that Wall can do and more.

But thats just my opinion.....

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Gil had zero leadership qualities. He was as focused as they got but I wish he was held accountable on defense and off court conduct (in regards to maturity). Wall seems like the guy who would demand respect out of other players in the locker room. Gilbert being the prankster he was, defected this role to Jamison and others.

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Gil had zero leadership qualities. He was as focused as they got but I wish he was held accountable on defense and off court conduct (in regards to maturity). Wall seems like the guy who would demand respect out of other players in the locker room. Gilbert being the prankster he was, defected this role to Jamison and others.

Leadership qualities I completely agree with you about but as for who was the better basketball player.....you know who I'd choose. ;)

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Leadership qualities I completely agree with you about but as for who was the better basketball player.....you know who I'd choose. ;)

Offensively in terms of scoring probably not. Prime Gilbert was the most lethal offensive guard in the league, behind Kobe.

But I do think Wall will be a much better PG and overall player. Better size, most likely better defense, and he's already a better floor general. He might eventually fill out into the size of a SG, with the skill set of a PG. If he dramatically improves his scoring ability, he can be a freak of a player.

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Definitely a great game to attend. Been wanting to go to one forever now and finally had the chance. Wall looked nice but his jumper is still a major issue. McGee had several characteristically amazing athletic plays but really struggled against Cousins.

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Hypothetical situation here: If the Wizards extend JaVale and then acquire DeMarcus Cousins, how do you play them?

Keep in mind this will probably be two to three years into the development of each.

Do you play Cousins at PF and JaVale at center?

Personally I don't know how hypothetical this situation really is. We'll probably try and keep JaVale if he puts up similar numbers from last year and I think it's only a matter of time before DeMarcus Cousins is here. I'd put the odds a little better than even that he comes to D.C. when his rookie deal is up (if not sooner).

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Hypothetical situation here: If the Wizards extend JaVale and then acquire DeMarcus Cousins, how do you play them?

Keep in mind this will probably be two to three years into the development of each.

Do you play Cousins at PF and JaVale at center?

Personally I don't know how hypothetical this situation really is. We'll probably try and keep JaVale if he puts up similar numbers from last year and I think it's only a matter of time before DeMarcus Cousins is here. I'd put the odds a little better than even that he comes to D.C. when his rookie deal is up (if not sooner).

Why would we go after Cousins?

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Why would we go after Cousins?

Mainly because he's close to Wall. I'm on the fence about him. He has a dominant skillset, but he's a loose cannon. I'm not sure being here with Wall would fix it that much.

And I see no way to play Cousins & McGee together. Offensive spacing would be horrible

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Yeah a frontcourt of Cousins/McGee wouldn't work. Bringing him in goes against what we're trying to do, which is building through the draft. Not to mention it defeats the purpose of shipping out all of the headcases (Blatche), Cousins is arguably more of a problem.

2012 has a good crop of PF's we can go after, no point in trading for Cousins.

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Yeah a frontcourt of Cousins/McGee wouldn't work. Bringing him in goes against what we're trying to do, which is building through the draft. Not to mention it defeats the purpose of shipping out all of the headcases (Blatche), Cousins is arguably more of a problem.

2012 has a good crop of PF's we can go after, no point in trading for Cousins.

Cousins is a rising sophomore, that's still building with youth.

The reasons we would go after Cousins are because he's a rare talent. He's got the potential to be the second best center in the league. I realize that's not saying a ton since Dwight Howard is the only great center in the league. This is a bit stronger--Cousins has the potential to be a top 5-8 PF in the league too. Physically, he's a freak of nature. Super quick, pretty good leaper, extremely strong, ~280 pounds, great footwork around the basket and a pretty soft touch. Coachability and maturity is the only real concern with him as a player. But it didn't stop him from dominating the college level as a true freshman playing with John Wall.

I've actually followed his young career a fair amount and I think he's a classic case of a big who has to great PG play to be effective. The difference in his style of play from year 1 in Sacramento with horrible PG play and year 1 at Kentucky with great QB play is night and day. He basically abandoned his post game because he couldn't get the ball in his spots and settled for Blatche style jump shooting and high usage rates. He lost his efficiency and his physicality and looked disinterested. His post game was utterly dominant in college and by far his greatest offensive strength. Wall unlocks it for him, gets him involved in the offense without needing the super high usage rate, puts a spark in his play on the defensive end and gets him to be a dominant rebounder.

A frontcourt of JaVale and Cousins would work if you play Cousins at PF on offense. JaVale can guard quick centers and opposing 4s and Cousins can defend the block pretty easily. Cousins has a decent jump shot, but you'd be utilizing a front court of him and McGee like Memphis used Gasol/Randolph. You have JaVale defend the ball and Cousins play for the rebounds. It's a good pairing athletically and Cousins has much high upside than Blatche. Then when you need to go smaller/quicker you can do a JaVale/Vesely duo. When you need length you play Vesely at SF.

I'm not advocating trading anything big for Cousins, although I'd certainly trade Blatche and some other peripheral pieces for him. I think we're going to straight up sign him in FA when his contract is up three years from now.

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Great post, but here's my problem with this whole scenario... No GM in this league will give up anything significant for Blatche, so we'd have to deal one of our young assets for Cousins. Instead of doing that, why not go after Anthony Davis, Andre Drummond, or even Jared Sullinger (although I'm not a fan of him, wouldn't be a good fit on our team).

I think the risks (attitude issues, giving up multiple young talent) outweigh the reward (him being a star big man), we're better off seeking a PF through a very strong 2012 draft class.

Cousins also needs to be better conditioned. I constantly saw him wearing down late in games (particularly the fourth quarter), which obviously effected his performance because he was shooting more outside the post and was being more and more passive.

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As much as I like Wall I don't feel the same excitement over him that I felt about Gil. :2cents:

In fact, I believe that Gil could do everything that Wall can do and more.

But thats just my opinion.....

I think Wall makes those around him better in ways Gil never could. Thus why you're going to see star players wanting to play for him.

I'm also not convinced that you could win it all with a score-first PG as THE guy. As far as I can tell, it's never been done. Real PG's--in the John Wall mold--yes. Plus I think Wall's upside is that big.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/wizards/wizards-john-wall-im-back/2011/08/22/gIQA2GR7WJ_story.html

“I’m back. I’m back, man. I’m back to myself,” Wall said after an electrifying performance. “Now I feel I can do whatever I want to do again, blow past people, get to the basket. I think those things that I started the season with last year, I got that back. It’s coming back. You’re going to see some stuff this year, it’s just whenever — hopefully the season starts as soon as possible. The main thing is just working on my game.”

Much more in the link.

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I'd trade McGee for Cousins. Cousins is going to be dominant. I don't think McGee will ever be more than the guy who gives you highlight reel plays but has low IQ and gives points up routinely. Wall can control Cousins the way Jordan controlled Rodman and Kobe controls Artest. People fall in line for greatness.

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I'd trade McGee for Cousins. Cousins is going to be dominant. I don't think McGee will ever be more than the guy who gives you highlight reel plays but has low IQ and gives points up routinely. Wall can control Cousins the way Jordan controlled Rodman and Kobe controls Artest. People fall in line for greatness.

I tend to agree with this. I still have some hope for McGee but I'm about 80/20 toward him never amounting to much of ****. Telling you all, going to that Clippers game last year and seeing McGee act/play like a loser really ruined me on him.

---------- Post added August-23rd-2011 at 01:41 PM ----------

Goddamn I hate David Stern

Edited by G.A.C.O.L.B.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wizards-insider/post/jan-vesely-will-not-play-in-europe/2011/08/29/gIQAwFkEnJ_blog.html

Wizards top draft pick Jan Vesely has finally made a decision about where he will be in the fall. And the 21-year-old, 6-foot-10 power forward from the Czech Republic is not going to play for Partizan Belgrade -- or any other team in his native continent. Vesely is going to wait out the lockout, so that the next uniform he wears is the red, white and blue of the Wizards.

“He will not play for any club in Europe. He will come to USA by end of September to work out till end of lockout,” Vesely’s agent, Alexander Raskovic, said in an email on Monday.

Raskovic, who works under power agent Arn Tellem at Wasserman Media Group Management, said two weeks ago that there was a chance that Vesely might not play for any team in Europe. It now appears that Vesely has elected to stay focused on his NBA career, without distraction or risk of getting hurt playing professionally elsewhere.

“We don’t want to risky any injury,” Raskovic wrote. “Why put in risk future career and why not show respect to the Wizards? They drafted him! He should come ready and healthy to play with the Wizards.”

When Vesely was introduced at his news conference after being selected sixth overall in the draft, Tellem said that Vesely would likely work out in Los Angeles until the lockout ends. Vesely had spent the past three years at Partizan Belgrade, and, in an expanded role last season, averaged 10.4 points and 4.3 rebounds in Adriatic league play and 9.2 points and 3.4 rebounds in Euroleague play.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wizards-insider/post/joe-abunassar-on-john-wall-hes-as-fast-as-ever-now/2011/08/26/gIQAQ1fvgJ_blog.html

Wall decided to take about two months off immediately after the season before heading out to Los Angeles, where he began focusing on getting back to his old ways of leaving skid marks on the hardwood. He has trained with Abunassar, commuting back and forth between the Impact Basketball facilities in Las Vegas and Reseda, Calif., and the results have been evident through his performances in pro-am games across the country. Wall declared himself “back” after scoring 28 points in the Goodman League’s victory over Drew League at Trinity last week, and Abunassar agreed.

“I think that he’s back,” Abunassar said in a telephone interview. He added that Wall had a great season regardless of what ailed him but noticed at times that “something was bothering him.”

Wall has trained with Abunassar since he declared for the NBA draft out of Kentucky and has already agreed to play in his proposed NBA-only summer league in Las Vegas next month, which should give him an opportunity to show off how much he has improved physically against his peers. If you haven’t noticed already, Wall hasn’t been wearing the padding, tights and knee supports that he wore after sustaining the right knee injury.

“I know he battled some injuries, so getting him healthy and his knee feeling great was the first priority and we do different things,” Abunassar said. “Our performance side and what we’re doing with John is really basketball related. Just getting him out on the court and getting back to exploding and getting him to changing his speeds the way that not many people can; using his athleticism when he can go from stop to go so quickly.”

Abunassar said they have focused on helping Wall strengthen different muscles in his lower body that needed improvement and “getting them to fire a little bit quicker. For the most part, he just got into great shape and he’s as fast as ever now.”

Edited by StillUnknown

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http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=mc-spears_john_wall_090611

Wall still had moments when he showed his talent. He dished a record 22 assists and scored 12 points to win Most Valuable Player honors in the rookie game during All-Star weekend. It was about the only time Wall took the spotlight from Los Angeles Clippers rookie forward Blake Griffin(notes). Griffin scored 14 points for the rookies, won the dunk contest, played in the All-Star Game and easily won Rookie of the Year.

“What Blake did kind of stuffed it down the drain because he was so athletic and was on so many highlight reels,” Wall said of his own season. “That’s not all that he is about, but that’s what everyone was talking about. I’m not disappointed in that. I’m happy for him to win Rookie of the Year. That was my goal. But that just puts something else on my goal list.

“You will see the real me back with my athleticism, back at my full speed … and that’s what I want to prove to people. Whenever the season starts this year or whenever we play again, I want them to see the real me.”

Another goal for Wall is to prove himself against a pair of All-Star point guards.

“Derrick Rose, the MVP, he took advantage of me at times,” Wall said. “Russell Westbrook did that when we played at Oklahoma, and I’ll never forget it. Those are the types of things I’m keeping in my head [for] when we play them next season. It’s not going to be a one-on-one battle, but I’m going to prove that I’m back to myself and I can guard these guys.”

Wall has played pick-up games at UCLA this offseason, worked out in Santa Monica, Calif., and represented Washington, D.C.’s Goodman League in an exhibition game against Los Angeles’ Drew League. He currently isn’t interested in playing overseas during the lockout, and says he’s focused on making the Wizards better for next season – whenever that is.

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Wall will lead this team to great things in the next 10+ years. He is the best thing to happen to this franchise since probably Unseld in the 70s.

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