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very very impressed with mcgee progress and I have painfully watched every game this year, offensively he has improved..that being said he needs to know his limitations , where we are in a game situation, what's a good shot in this particular moment, overall bball iq

from the games I've watched, I've thought his shot selection is pretty good. Definitely much better than last year. BBIQ is partially a reflection of your coach....we need to clean house.

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I'd rather have the dream team. Unless you can find a way to land a center that is better than him your complaints are just noise. The bottom line is that you don't improve a franchise by dumping it's better players, especially at the center position which is horribly thin at the moment league wide.

And please... don't suggest the draft. I'm going to throw up if one more person talks about the draft like the cure to all the Wizards ills. This team is young enough: (red rookie, yellow 2nd year)

Wall / Mack

Young / Crawford

Singleton / Vesely

Booker / Blatche

McGee / Seraphin

If we got any younger we'd be hoping for a final four appearance.

yeah, we need to get some legit vets to put on this team of young boys. I'd really like to trade the 2012 lottery pick for a scoring wing.

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I am suggesting getting a nba professional, he is the best player on a 1-12 team..lol. Sorry I rather have a player with substance over style, I get it you love mcgee..me not so much

he's a 23 year old center who has improved every year he's been in the league. He averages a double double and leads the NBA in blocks. NBA centers typically aren't fully developed until they are at least 27, so it is likely McGee continues to get better. you don't get rid of the bright spots on your team....especially when you don't have too many of them.

You add a legit 20ppg wing scorer to the core of Wall and McGee and you start to move forward and have a chance to get in the playoff picture.

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I am not Grunfield....I get it you like mcgee, I am not his biggest fan

I would get rid of Mcgee, NY and Blatche...but I guess I am in the minority on this

I'm with you on Blatche, and I'd definitely rather trade Young for an asset rather than see him walk next year in FA (which I'm pretty sure he'll do)

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yeah, we need to get some legit vets to put on this team of young boys. I'd really like to trade the 2012 lottery pick for a scoring wing.

It would have to be a really good one considering our draft position. Sadly the FA class for SG and SF looks horrible.

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anyone read the rumor on ESPN that the Wizards are going to strongly pursue Jeff Green in FA? I'm not really sure how he would fit in on this team? Jeff seems like he is best suited as the first forward off the bench on a contender. I'm not really sure where he fits on a young team....too small to play 4 and doesn't seem to be the scorer that we'd need on the wing. I don't think I'd be in favor of him signing a large deal with us.

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I would get rid of Mcgee, NY and Blatche...but I guess I am in the minority on this

I'd get rid of John Wall if I could have Derrick Rose but that isn't the way it works. Who they can be replaces with is the issue.

Blatche? You have Booker and Seraphin. After that take your pick:

Kevin Love, Minnesota Timberwolves – $4.6 million – Restricted ($6.1 million Qualifying Offer)

Kevin Garnett, Boston Celtics – $21.2 million – Unrestricted

Tim Duncan, San Antonio Spurs – $21.2 million – Unrestricted

Michael Beasley, Minnesota Timberwolves – $6.3 million – Restricted ($8.2 million Qualifying Offer)

Brandon Bass, Boston Celtics – $4.3 million – Player Option ($4.3 million)

J.J. Hickson, Sacramento Kings – $2.4 million – Restricted ($3.4 million Qualifying Offer)

Elton Brand, Philadelphia 76ers – $17.1 million – Early Termination Option ($18.2 million)

Antawn Jamison, Cleveland Cavaliers – $15.1 million – Unrestricted

Jason Thompson, Sacramento Kings – $3.0 million – Restricted ($4.1 million Qualifying Offer)

Marreese Speights, Philadelphia 76ers – $2.8 million – Restricted ($3.8 million Qualifying Offer)

Ryan Anderson, Orlando Magic – $2.2 million – Restricted ($3.2 million Qualifying Offer)

D.J. White, Charlotte Bobcats – $2.0 million – Restricted ($3.0 million Qualifying Offer)

Patrick Patterson, Houston Rockets – $2.0 million – Team Option ($2.1 million)

Anthony Randolph, Minnesota Timberwolves – $2.9 million – Restricted ($4.0 million Qualifying Offer)

Ronny Turiaf, Washington Wizards – $4.4 million – Unrestricted

Boris Diaw, Charlotte Bobcats – $9.0 million – Unrestricted

Ersan Ilyasova, Milwaukee Bucks – $2.5 million – Unrestricted

Darrell Arthur, Memphis Grizzlies – $2.0 million – Restricted ($3.0 million Qualifying Offer)

Louis Amundson, Indiana Pacers – $2.4 million – Unrestricted

Jason Maxiell, Detroit Pistons – $5.0 million – Player Option ($5.0 million)

Jordan Hill, Houston Rockets – $2.9 million – Team Option ($3.6 million)

Craig Brackins, Phildelphia 76ers – $1.4 million – Team Option ($1.5 million)

Chris Johnson, Portland Trail Blazers – $0.8 million – Unrestricted*

Derrick Caracter, L.A. Lakers – $0.8 million – Unrestricted*

Austin Daye, Detroit Pistons – $1.9 million – Team Option ($3.0 million)

Brian Cook, L.A. Clippers – $1.3 million – Unrestricted

Ian Mahinmi, Dallas Mavericks – $0.9 million – Unrestricted

Luke Harangody, Cleveland Cavaliers – $0.8 million – Unrestricted*

Young? You've got Crawford or:

Eric Gordon, New Orleans Hornets – $3.8 million – Restricted ($5.1 million Qualifying Offer)

O.J. Mayo, Memphis Grizzlies – $5.6 million – Restricted ($7.4 million Qualifying Offer)

Evan Turner, Philadelphia 76ers – $5.0 million – Team Option ($5.3 million)

Gerald Henderson, Charlotte Bobcats – $2.3 million – Team Option ($3.1 million)

Ray Allen, Boston Celtics – $10.0 million – Unrestricted

Landry Fields, New York Knicks – $0.8 million – Unrestricted*

Carlos Delfino, Milwaukee Bucks – $3.5 million – Unrestricted

Louis Williams, Philadelphia 76ers – $5.2 million – Early Termination Option ($5.4 million)

Mickael Pietrus, Boston Celtics – $1.2 million – Unrestricted

Courtney Lee, Houston Rockets – $2.2 million – Restricted ($3.2 million Qualifying Offer)

Rudy Fernandez, Denver Nuggets – $2.2 million – Restricted ($3.2 million Qualifying Offer)

Xavier Henry, Memphis Grizzlies – $2.2 million – Team Option ($2.3 million)

Damion James, New Jersey Nets – $1.2 million – Team Option ($1.3 million)

C.J. Miles, Utah Jazz – $3.7 million – Unrestricted

Terrence Williams, Houston Rockets – $2.4 million – Team Option ($3.1 million)

Jodie Meeks, Philadelphia 76ers – $0.9 million – Unrestricted*

James Anderson, San Antonio Spurs – $1.5 million – Team Option ($1.6 million)

Matt Carroll, Charlotte Bobcats – $3.9 million – Early Termination Option ($3.5 million)

Brandon Rush, Golden State Warriors – $3.0 million – Restricted ($4.1 million Qualifying Offer)

Jannero Pargo, Atlanta Hawks – $1.1 million – Unrestricted

Alonzo Gee, Cleveland Cavaliers – $0.9 million – Unrestricted*

Jeremy Lin, New York Knicks – $0.8 million – Unrestricted*

Danny Green, San Antonio Spurs – $0.9 million – Unrestricted*

McGee? Realistically you have nothing behind him on the roster. So...

Dwight Howard, Orlando Magic – $18.1 million – Early Termination Option ($19.5 million)

Roy Hibbert, Indiana Pacers – $2.6 million – Restricted ($3.7 million Qualifying Offer)

Andrew Bynum, L.A. Lakers – $14.9 million – Team Option ($16.1 million)

Brook Lopez, New Jersey Nets – $3.1 million – Restricted ($4.2 million Qualifying Offer)

Chris Kaman, New Orleans Hornets – $12.7 million – Unrestricted

Greg Monroe, Detroit Pistons – $3.0 million – Team Option ($3.2 million)

JaVale McGee, Washington Wizards – $2.5 million – Restricted ($3.5 million Qualifying Offer)

Marcus Camby, Portland Trail Blazers – $12.9 million – Unrestricted

Robin Lopez, Phoenix Suns – $2.8 million – Restricted ($4.0 million Qualifying Offer)

Jermaine O’Neal, Boston Celtics – $6.2 million – Unrestricted

Nazr Mohammed, Oklahoma City Thunder – $3.8 million – Unrestricted

Omer Asik, Chicago Bulls – $1.9 million – Unrestricted*

Semih Erden, Cleveland Cavaliers – $0.8 million – Unrestricted*

Ben Wallace, Detroit Pistons – $2.2 million – Unrestricted

Mehmet Okur, New Jersey Nets – $10.9 million – Unrestricted

Daniel Orton, Orlando Magic – $1.1 million – Team Option ($1.2 million)

Solomon Alabi, Toronto Raptors – $0.8 million – Team Option ($0.9 million)

Hasheem Thabeet, Houston Rockets – $5.1 million – Team Option ($6.5 million)

Kosta Koufos, Denver Nuggets – $2.2 million – Restricted ($3.2 million Qualifying Offer)

DeSagana Diop, Charlotte Bobcats – $6.9 million – Player Option ($7.4 million)

Ryan Hollins, Cleveland Cavaliers – $2.5 million – Unrestricted

*may not be up to date.

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It would have to be a really good one considering our draft position. Sadly the FA class for SG and SF looks horrible.

Rudy Gay is who pops into my mind....I've wanted to trade for him for the past couple years. Memphis did really well w/o him at the end of last year and in the playoffs, they might be willing to trade him for a lottery pick (especially since he has a large contract). Danny Granger could also be another target; although i'm not sure if the Pacers would part with him.

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Rudy Gay is who pops into my mind....I've wanted to trade for him for the past couple years. Memphis did really well w/o him at the end of last year and in the playoffs, they might be willing to trade him for a lottery pick (especially since he has a large contract). Danny Granger could also be another target; although i'm not sure if the Pacers would part with him.

For some reason I've never been sold on him. He's a player I'd be all for bringing in as a free agent but I wouldn't move a top pick in this upcoming draft for him.

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For some reason I've never been sold on him. He's a player I'd be all for bringing in as a free agent but I wouldn't move a top pick in this upcoming draft for him.

Ruby is a good scorer, he can run the floor with an up and down team, he is a pretty good rebounder. He'd be a 20-7-3 guy on this team....I'll take it.

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For some reason I've never been sold on him. He's a player I'd be all for bringing in as a free agent but I wouldn't move a top pick in this upcoming draft for him.

I wouldn't mind Erik Gordon at SG, with NO still being in ownership limbo, he may available even though he is restricted.

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I wouldn't mind Erik Gordon at SG, with NO still being in ownership limbo, he may available even though he is restricted.

he is supposedly going to go home and play for the Pacers. I definitely wouldn't mind Gordon; Milsap might be another good target.

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But Monroe, Lopez, and Bargnani do?

I'm talking about in the 2011-12 season..you can EASILY make a case for McGee being a top-3 center in the East.

Only two Centers in the East that I'd take over McGee RIGHT NOW are Dwight and Bogut.

Yeah, they do. Javale has made a few strides, that's fine, but he's too dumb of a player and I see no signs of that changing.

I highly, highly doubt you'll find anyone who isn't a Wizards fan agreeing with you that Javale is a top-3 center in the East. Yeah, you can cite statistics like blocks, etc. That's all well and good, except when you consider how many points he gives up because of his willingness to (still) sell out for virtually every block.

There are many centers in the East right now I'd take over McGee without batting an eye and I hope EG doesn't break the bank on him, because I promise, like Nick Young this past off season, he won't have very many suitors.

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Dude if Kwame and Oden can constantly get 10-12 per year deals JaVale get the same. He's 7 feet, A monster shot blocker and a good rebounder and did I mention 7 feet?

We are not talking about Nick Young a streaky shooter that hasn't learned how too pass the ball there are plenty of those in the NBA and the D league.

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Dude if Kwame and Oden can constantly get 10-12 per year deals JaVale get the same. He's 7 feet, A monster shot blocker and a good rebounder and did I mention 7 feet?

We are not talking about Nick Young a streaky shooter that hasn't learned how too pass the ball there are plenty of those in the NBA and the D league.

Agreed. A legit 7 footer that can give you 12 and 10 a night is worth much more than a SG that put up 16 and isn't particularly good at anything else. It's a question of scarcity and there simply are wing players to be had with that level of production. If Nick Young was a 24ppg player things would be different. He isn't.

He'll command a contract similar to Marc Gasol. I think it will be slightly lower.

The team will still need a starting SG, SF, and PF and one of them will need to be occupied by a 20+ ppg player or someone that potentially will become one. No such player is available via free agency. Oh joy more rookies.

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If the basketball gods have any bit of kindness in their black, spiteful hearts, they'll let us have this guy on draft day.

Would absolutely love to have him at the PF position. He looks to me like he could turn into a KG type player with range and enough quicks ball skills to attack the basket instead of simply need the ball on the block to generate offense. He needs to get rid of the unibrow though, that **** is distracting as hell.

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